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Returned the Ipad 3

ghatotkacha said:
Anyone else do that? I realize this is fan-forum :) so please don't flame me. Just curious..
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I am returning one...possibly two... First my wife's. She just wasn't that impressed with an iPad period. She has a Macbook Pro and a iPhone and the tablet seems redundant.

Me? If I had never used an android device I would just be blown away by the iPad. But I like to tweak things and I like to be able to do anything I want with my tablet. The ipad is too limiting for me. I am not much for walled gardens no matter how nice. I might keep the ipad until Asus releases the Transformer Prime Infinity and then sell the iPad.
 
I seek to bring balance to the Force...

The new pad has a nice display, but the 2's isn't exactly *****. There is a discernible difference in books, webpages and such, but I didn't have the OMFG! feeling articulated by the professional reviewers.

I was wondering if it was because my eyes are suffering from the condition known as middle age. (If you can avoid this condition, I would suggest that you do so.)

After getting on the new iPad screenshot thread, I downloaded a couple of hi resolution images for my lock and home screens....north america from space, and a deep space shot of a nearby galaxy and surrounding stars. I could really notice the display then. (I had the impression that if I could somehow expand my fingers a few times on the lock screen, I'd be able to see myself sitting on my back patio with the new iPad...) Just freakin' wow. Images I previously loaded up using iPhoto seemed to show a drastic improvement.

And it occurred to me that Apple probably loaded up the review and demo units up with a lot of app goodies designed to show off the capabilities of the new display. That would explain the difference between their initial perception and mine....an exotic sports car wouldn't make a drastic improvement over a Camry driving to the corner store, but on a test track or autobahn it would make all the difference.

You can bet your sweet bippy that developers are feverishly working on apps that will showcase the capabilities of the new display. Games are an obvious starting point, but I couldn't even venture a guess at where they'll end up.

I hate car analogies, I really do. But thanks to the iPad2 sales, there's a whole lot of contented Camry owners out there who have no intention of a trade in. Fine, well and good. But I'd also venture a guess that a quite a few of them may reconsider their position when they discover that there's suddenly a test track or autobahn onramp within a quarter of a mile of their house.
 
I dont understand why everydoby is complaining about the longer charge time. Once the battery is charged it takes a long time for it to run out. The catch is that you have to leave it charging longer.
 
Gix1k said:
No way!! iPad 2 is half the size, sexier and got cameras. Over the iPad 1.

The iPad 3 got heavier and a better screen.
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The iPad 2 got thinner and two crappy cameras.
The iPad 3 got the best screen ever put in a mobile device, a good camera, and 4G.
The weight difference is so slight I can barely feel it.
 
PhoneI said:
The iPad 2 got thinner and two crappy cameras.
The iPad 3 got the best screen ever put in a mobile device, a good camera, and 4G.
The weight difference is so slight I can barely feel it.
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I guess...I never use my iPad camera other than for Facetime. I have wifi only, so it could have 10G and I could careless.
I get your point though.
 
aperry said:
Sure, no one complained about DVD quality movies for years until HD came along. Is this really your argument?

If you have compared the iPad 2 to the iPad 3, then you have seen the noticeable difference. My guess is that you haven't or else your eyes are bad. The difference is pretty obvious and there's nothing subjective about it.
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Have both and my eyes are 20-15. :p
 
felixroqu3 said:
I dont understand why everydoby is complaining about the longer charge time. Once the battery is charged it takes a long time for it to run out. The catch is that you have to leave it charging longer.
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i don't either. What is your iPad doing at night while you are asleep that it can't be charging???
 
ghatotkacha said:
I got caught up in the hype and pre-ordered one(ATT 64GB) too, worrying that I would not be able to get one (last year it took me four weeks to get one, post launch).

Opened it up with bated breath and played around with it.. The screen was pretty good, but in everything I compared, i was hard pressed to identify which was the ipad2 vs the ipad3.

Then debated hard with the following being the key arguments
* ATT does not have LTE yet in Portland OR
* Not happy with the longer charge times
* No significant upgrade in day-day activites (webbrowsing etc)
* $$$$ :)

So with a heavy heart, I went back and returned it.

Anyone else do that? I realize this is fan-forum :) so please don't flame me. Just curious..
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You made Apple paid for the poor judgement on your end, which will in turn pass to customers. Oh well, it's your right, so...
 
I waffled on my decision as well, as I am a student and only work full time during the summer. But since I came from an iPad 1, I'm really happy I bought it.

Sure, it's a lot of money but I can get a few good years out of it.
 
AppleHater said:
You made Apple paid for the poor judgement on your end, which will in turn pass to customers. Oh well, it's your right, so...
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I love the new iPad and definitely plan to keep mine, but let's be real here.

Apple has a lot of room in their iPad margins to deal with stuff like this. The prices are far more based on the and offering and the market, not on whether Joe User returns his iPad.

And you know what? They create some of these minor problems for themselves by the secrecy and timing surrounding their launches. For example, if they came out and said "hey guys, the CPU speed is identical to the iPad 2 so don't expect most apps to be any faster, unless they're graphics-heavy because the new GPU kicks butt". They could have put some on display in Apple stores before they were available, to give people a chance to see the screen first-hand before ordering. Nope, they open the flood gates all at once before anyone can even see one in person, and everyone believes the only way they'll get one in the next two months is by jumping on it as soon as possible, even without having all the information.

But of course they get the most excitement and bang for their buck by having the big "flood" style launches. And in some cases that's accompanied by a higher return rate than they might have expected from a different style of launch. Probably still makes them the most money.

Edit: PS: I ended up ordering two of them because Apple didn't bother to tell anyone on launch day that Verizon will allow tethering, and because the data plans were initially wrong on Apple's ordering page. So my AT&T iPad is going back. I've seen a number of other people here mentioning similar plans for swaps, and it seems like a lot of this is because people just didn't have enough info when they ordered. Just my humble opinion, I still love the thing.
 
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Yes some people on this forum aren't impressed or just find that tablets aren't for them.

I returned mine, I could list a variety of reasons, but after using it for a couple of days I simply prefer a MacBook. I kept jumping on a laptop to browse and write and looked over at my iPad thinking how it would probably stay unused.
 
I'm disappointed by all the limitations on handling of photos through dropbox and safari at the very least.

This was intended mainly for reading and photography. The crippled filesystem browser in addition to this is making me consider jailbreaking.
 
People (or at least some people) seem to be putting more and more emphasis on a "new" industrial design when it comes to these tablets. Based on the actual capability of the tablet, iPad 3rd gen is a much bigger jump over iPad 2 than iPad 2 was over the first one. The screen (the biggest shortfall of the first two iPads) is much better, cell service is multiples times faster, cameras are better, graphics are better, all in the same form factor.

However, because iPad 2 was a little lighter and more compact, and came in two colors instead of one, people thought it was a revolution (I understand the A5 was a big jimp overt he prior processor).

I don't know if I understand this mentality.
 
AppleHater said:
You made Apple paid for the poor judgement on your end, which will in turn pass to customers. Oh well, it's your right, so...
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That is one way to view it, but poor judgement may be subjective. Sometimes you need extended use at home to see how you would or would not use the device, or arrive at the conclusion to return it after extended use.

But I do somewhat agree to your point. Regardless, Apple choose to implement a no restocking fee. I returned mine and if they had a restocking fee I would have paid a "use" tax. I don't think your going to find a device that doesn't have returns baked into the price, and overall the iPad has a low return rate which Steve pointed to when comparing to the Galaxy Tab.

I would "speculate" the returns by those demanding perfection is a much more significant cost driver - that is not accepting any anomalies even if within the stated spec.
 
deeddawg said:
Not to split hairs, but resolution is a linear measurement. Pixels per inch. Not Pixels per square inch.

Resolution doubled -> total pixels quadrupled.
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But the resolution is quadrupled (or another way to think about it, doubled in each dimension, perhaps that is what you mean by doubled). Not sure why you are bringing up pixel density though as it doesn't apply.

It went from 1024 x 768 to 2048*1536

If the resolution doubled, that would have been 2048 x 768 or 1024 x 1536 etc (ie imagine being able to join 2 ipad 1s side by side, only 1 dimension changes)

However, it is 2*1024 x 2*768 = 4*(1024x768) which is exactly 4 times the pixels as the original ipad and thus exactly 4 times the resolution.
 
I'm really confused about whether to upgrade my iPad2 now. And reading this forum is making me more confused :D:confused:
 
gorskiegangsta said:
As a first time iPad owner, I have no desire to return mine (64GB Wifi-Only, Black). Loving the hell out of it ;) To an average iPad 2 owner, however, there's really no incentive to upgrade.

EDIT: The charging times don't seem too long. Plugged into my Macbook Pro USB port, it charged halfway in around 4 hrs. (while being used). If you use the supplied adapter, it'll probably charge all the way in 3-4 hrs.
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How come u didn't get4g model?

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jojoba said:
I'm really confused about whether to upgrade my iPad2 now. And reading this forum is making me more confused :D:confused:
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First world problem
 
CapnJackGig said:
It's funny that the fanboys can't help themselves and need to open and post in all these threads. Lighten, fanboy.
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LOL!!! I'm a fanboy because I cringe when someone opens up a thread on a topic that already has six other threads going on the exact same subject???

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

I have three words for you. Pot. Kettle. Black. :p
 
dukebound85 said:
But the resolution is quadrupled (or another way to think about it, doubled in each dimension, perhaps that is what you mean by doubled). Not sure why you are bringing up pixel density though as it doesn't apply.
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Again, this is splitting hairs, but you're using the "display resolution" concept of pixel dimensions which while common is a misnomer. One of its biggest problems is evidenced by this very conversation; when you use a term to refer to something as either two linear values or an area value, do you refer to it as doubled or quadrupled? :D If I double the size of a 10ft by 10ft patio, how big is it?

Resolution, coming from the basis of image or optical resolution, the ability to resolve things, is a linear measure. Pixel density completely applies in this case, as that is what's driving/providing the increased pixel dimensions within the same physical space.

I do agree that common usage of the term as moved away from technically correct usage of the term.
 
ghatotkacha said:
to Deedawg:
I am confirmed Apple addict (iphone1-4, ipad1-2, every MBA). This is the *first* time I am returning an upgrade. Feels strange. so wanted to see if i was an idiot for returning mine :)
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The retina display on this new iPad is out of this world gorgeous.

If you can't tell the night and day difference between 2048X1536 vs. 1024X768....then you have very bad eyesight. No offense....but it that's obvious.

Everything on the iPad2 looks blurry....especially comparred to the 3rd gen.

The is the biggest upgrade a tablet has ever seen.

Good lord this display is amazing.

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jojoba said:
I'm really confused about whether to upgrade my iPad2 now. And reading this forum is making me more confused :D:confused:
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There should be zero confusion.

You people are too funny.
 
Hoggles said:
There should be zero confusion.

You people are too funny.
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:D Just too many people on here being dissatisfied. I'd be buying on an upcoming trip to the US and I don't want to come back home and have issues with what I'm getting. And I definitely don't want a "piss yellow" screen.
 
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