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I really don't care what a court of law would do. We're not talking about that, we're talking about random people on the internet giving parenting advice to people that they don't know.
 
I think the new iPod Touch looks great, the only problem is the starting price, I would've personally be much happier If it has a 8GB capacity but started at $199..

Can't justify spending $299 on the new iPod Touch, not sure who would buy the 4G iPod Touch when It's using an A4 chip =/

Wait till next year then. Apple has always used the same pricing scheme for their iPod Touch line. Next year, the 32GB and 64GB Touches will only get minor updates while the 16Gb will be updated to the newest design with an A5.
 
Third was the fatty. I mean the longer one that shot video. Wasn't that the fourth?

Edit: I was right. It was the white/black plastic one, then multi colors in mostly the same shape, then the fatty, then the one I mean, then the two years of the shuffle wanna be, then this new one. I'll stick with the 4th gen.
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Strange touch interface yet not iOS, no video camera, no video playback, no tactile controls. And yes, that last one is a bad thing for a workout device.

Maybe this will help- I've owed one of each generation except 4 and 5. Gen 5 had the longer screen and shot video.

 
Hey, she is not a spoiled brat if anything you're just an person that judges everything. She has books and those devices were given to her by her baby sitter and my cousin. Just because someone has something you didn't have as a child doesn't mean that they're a brat.
Playing Devil's advocate, if she already has the latest gadgets when she's that young, will she appreciate these items in her later years?
 
It seems they could really streamline the iPod line into two models, make them feature-rich, and blow people away.


iPod Nano (wristwatch-size w/clip)
Add Facetime, iMessages & wirelessly sync contacts
Add Voice Memos, Directional Mic, & speaker
extra battery packs in wristwatch band links
Wifi Sync & Bluetooth
iCloud
8GB, 32GB

iPod (was iPod Touch)
16GB, 64GB, 160GB HDD


Make less products, but put more quality into each.
 
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Apple made a huge mistake charging 299 for the base model. Most of the christmas presents are going to end up being the 199 4th generation model. Thats where the majority of these things end up. As holiday gifts. The biggest issue is the 4th generation model runs like complete crap today. It does not have enough ram. Everyone that I have used has been laggy and freezes up because if you put more than a few apps and run a few it locks up.
 
I don't see how organizing and syncing your music in iTunes is something of the past decade: I still do it and I don't see how you would manage without iTunes. iCloud only syncs what you set up in iTunes anyway, so without iTunes, iCloud wouldn't work at all either. The Nano is the iPod Touch without the apps, basically. But the music part of it is exactly the same. There's nothing "clinging to the past" about it. It just has less features, for those weird people who want a music player to listen to music. You know, like a watch that shows time. Or a camera that takes pictures.
 
If they'd put in the 8MP camera and a better flash (like a real camera), they could start getting people using iDevices just as a camera. Then get them into the iEcosystem.

It'd be the gateway drug to iPhone/iPad....

If the camera was a little nicer, I'd give this to my mom to replace her camera. After using it for a while and then adding more apps here and there, eventually she would want the iPhone or iPad.

Just a thought...
Gary
 
I bought an iPod Touch for my son; they do look super cool IMO, but the nano... I've bought a few generations of them for my girlfriend but the new one seems a serious back step... She loved the last one because it was so small, which to be honest i thought was the whole point of a nano!? The new one though is massive in comparison; you can't exactly call it "nano" anymore! :(
 
What happened to innovation at Apple? I don't think it is all about Jobs. I think they've been teetering on the edge of mediocrity for a while (the iPad 2), and now they've just fallen off the cliff.

I've owned / extensively used just about every Apple product to date, and there is a lot to love about their products overall. But, they are resting on their laurels. Everything about Apple is feeling tired this year, and I'm pretty sad to see that they are out of ideas.

The most innovative thing this year? The Nexus 7. It pales in comparison to my iPad (the Retina display is the one thing Apple got right this year), yet it is undeniably a gorgeous screen, Jelly Bean is finally a decent operating system, I have escaped the tyranny of iTunes, I no longer have to suffer with proprietary cords, the maps are correct, and it is less expensive than a Touch. LOL. What a joke.

Except, that I love Apple products and was really hoping to be impressed this year by the iPhone 5, the Nano (I've been waiting for Bluetooth, but not in this form factor), and the iPod Touch. What a let-down :(

I'm hoping they will pull out of this tailspin, but I don't see any hint of that. I know they are selling lots and lots of stuff, and financially they are doing well, but it looks like coasting to me. Best of luck to them, but for innovation, I think I will have to start looking elsewhere.
 
Me=Minority?

I am GLAD they changed the nano back to the regular classic size iPod. That square nano, you folks call "iWatch" was absolute garbage. Nothing attractive about it. Gets lost easily. Nothing to see cosmetic wise. And last of all, a watch? Are you mother trucking kidding me? Get a real watch people. Thank goodness they reverted it back to regular size. I will be getting this for exercise.
 
Hey, she is not a spoiled brat if anything you're just an person that judges everything. She has books and those devices were given to her by her baby sitter and my cousin. Just because someone has something you didn't have as a child doesn't mean that they're a brat.

Good for you. I have 2 children; both of which had iDevices from the age of about 3. It's 2012, should we pretend it's 1812 until they are of an "acceptable" age to be introduced to technology? Good grief... Ignore the stupid comments. I have no problem allowing my children access to the latest technology. Clearly i restrict content, but never restrict access to hardware or tech as long as they are able to look after it. People used to be so shocked when i used to encourage my children to use the DVD player when they were 18 months old; "I would never let my child do that" they used to say; I used to sit with my kids showing them how to put DVDs in properly and to put them back in the cases when they finished (press the triangle pointing to the right to play, and press the button with the square block on it to stop... lol) - they loved it; and you know what? A year later when all those other peoples DVD players were totally trashed by their kids ramming 10 DVD's into it at a time; my player was still going strong with no damage because the kids learnt to use it properly from day one! I've always used the same principle with all the technology i own and they've never once damaged anything unless it was a genuine accident (although i've had to get used to lot of snot and finger prints on my iPad LOL). Visitors still come round now and are amazed at how my children effortlessly browse the apple TV or start switching AV sources on the remote control, or boot up the iMac and start switching profiles and logging into websites.

My point is; my kids are older now and using any technology is as simple as picking up a book to them; they're not spoilt or precocious, they have just grown up in an environment where they were free to learn about (and use) the technology around them.
It has resulted (in my opinion) in them being very respectful, open minded and logical in their approach to technology, whereas i see other children either shy away from technology and look to their parents as if they are about to be scolded for even thinking about touching it, while others would just pick an iPod up and smash it because they have no idea what to do with one... I'm pretty certain i've given my children a much better start in life by doing things the way i have.
 
It may seem minor, but the round icons bug me too. Good design is all about consistency across the brand. Why suddenly alter the icon look for a single product? Makes no sense.

In the name of consistency, only products that run iOS apps use the rounded-corner look. All the iphones, ipads, and ipod Touches do.

Apple TV doesn't, iPod Nano also doesn't. Macs dont, even if they have Launchpad. Wouldn't want someone to think they could run Angry Birds on a Nano. The different shape subtly cues the customer that this is different.
 
Good for you. I have 2 children; both of which had iDevices from the age of about 3. It's 2012, should we pretend it's 1812 until they are of an "acceptable" age to be introduced to technology? Good grief... Ignore the stupid comments. I have no problem allowing my children access to the latest technology. Clearly i restrict content, but never restrict access to hardware or tech as long as they are able to look after it. People used to be so shocked when i used to encourage my children to use the DVD player when they were 18 months old; "I would never let my child do that" they used to say; I used to sit with my kids showing them how to put DVDs in properly and to put them back in the cases when they finished (press the triangle pointing to the right to play, and press the button with the square block on it to stop... lol) - they loved it; and you know what? A year later when all those other peoples DVD players were totally trashed by their kids ramming 10 DVD's into it at a time; my player was still going strong with no damage because the kids learnt to use it properly from day one! I've always used the same principle with all the technology i own and they've never once damaged anything unless it was a genuine accident (although i've had to get used to lot of snot and finger prints on my iPad LOL). Visitors still come round now and are amazed at how my children effortlessly browse the apple TV or start switching AV sources on the remote control, or boot up the iMac and start switching profiles and logging into websites.

My point is; my kids are older now and using any technology is as simple as picking up a book to them; they're not spoilt or precocious, they have just grown up in an environment where they were free to learn about (and use) the technology around them.
It has resulted (in my opinion) in them being very respectful, open minded and logical in their approach to technology, whereas i see other children either shy away from technology and look to their parents as if they are about to be scolded for even thinking about touching it, while others would just pick an iPod up and smash it because they have no idea what to do with one... I'm pretty certain i've given my children a much better start in life by doing things the way i have.

So many parents I know won't let their kids touch the computer. When they come to play with my niece, they don't know how to turn on a computer yet I see their parents walking around with Smartphones and I see computers in their houses. When I have kids I'll teach them how to use computers and phones, if they know how to use them they probably won't break them. Technology is how most people function now and if kids don't learn it from their parents, who they gonna learn it from school? (Btw school computer class sucks like really bad)
Enough of a rant from me. Probably has enough grammar errors already:)
 
1. Get rid of the unnecessary multitouch screen on the nano and just give it a cheap screen.
2. Lower the price of the nano. Obviously, it's not very popular.
 
Nano

Here's what I would want on a nano.
1) make it smaller again
2) add GPS to tie into Nike+

I don't care about multitouch screens, or other frills.
I want to tuck it away while I run and workout, that's where the Nano should shine in my opinion.

Oh and be able to be a cool watch too.
 
.... When I have kids I'll teach them how to use computers and phones, if they know how to use them they probably won't break them. Technology is how most people function now and if kids don't learn it from their parents, who they gonna learn it from....

Absolutely! And its so much fun to teach them and watch them picking it up! Theyre like little sponges and learn SO fast :) my kids have never trashed anything, theyve dropped a few things by accident but have'nt we all!? Lol but thats what covers are for! ;)
 
I have the clip-on Nano, which I love and use all the time. The new form factor is not for me.

I wore mine as a watch for a month while my real watch was being repaired. It was too large as others have noted, but the clip and size made it the perfect music player for two common situations — exercise and hanging out at home (I suppose for work too though I can't work and listen to music at the same time). I think teens will love this new form factor — and for all we know that's the largest market for the nano. Clearly, Apple didn't abandon the clip on a whim. I would not be surprised to see it return someday truly watch size with Bluetooth earpods, WiFi (it can mooch off your iPhone), Siri, and iTunes Match.
 
I don't see how organizing and syncing your music in iTunes is something of the past decade: I still do it and I don't see how you would manage without iTunes. iCloud only syncs what you set up in iTunes anyway, so without iTunes, iCloud wouldn't work at all either. The Nano is the iPod Touch without the apps, basically. But the music part of it is exactly the same. There's nothing "clinging to the past" about it. It just has less features, for those weird people who want a music player to listen to music. You know, like a watch that shows time. Or a camera that takes pictures.

Yeah, this aspect of the review bothered me as well. Services like Pandora or Spotify work well for some people, but not for me. I have really specific taste and generally only want to listen to exactly what I want to listen to. I love discovering new music, but I have avenues for that already (podcasts, radio shows, turntable.fm) and don't usually enjoy discovering new music through services like Pandora or Spotify. I also listen to a lot of underground or obscure music that simply isn't available on those services, so for people like me iTunes will always reign supreme.

To sum up, the reviewer is taking his personal preference of how he prefers to consume music and stating it as a "fact" about the way music is currently enjoyed by most people.
 
I expected the iPod Nano to remain small and get wifi/Bluetooth/microphone/loudspeaker so I can use it as a remote for the TV and take calls when my iPhone is not within reach. Imagine lying in the hammock or sofa, wearing the Nano like a wristband watch and answering the phone with it or see incoming text messages/email titles/reminders/etc. THAT would be the next "must have" to me. :)

You mean like this?
Id pay $200 for this!!
http://www.google.com/search?q=iWat...hl=en&client=safari#biv=i|1;d|ISQvWUGoEqhcfM:
 
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