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I agree with Roger's 6GB cap, verses unlimited, there's no such thing as unlimited. And 'reasonable' is subjective, saying 6GB is good, it's a tonne and i would bet less than 1%* of users would hit that cap. Back in the days of dial up Internet, all the providers started offering Unlimited hours and then dinged customers that stayed on 24 hours a day, or in some cases more than 24 hours per day using multiple connections. A spelled out cap is fair for all. Assuming of course, those heavy users that do hit the 6GB cap pay a fair price per GB over, say $5 per GB ($30/6GB).

Now, things that Rogers still needs to change, in my opinion:

1. Drop the 3 year contract length, or at least guarantee we can upgrade to the next iPhone at the subsidized price. I'm upgrading my jailbroken/unlocked iPhone 1 for the new one, and expect to do it again next year.

2. Allow the phone to be unlocked so we can use it while out of the country. We're still locked into a contract and paying Rogers anyway, so why not allow us to unlock it legally (we're going to anyway, so why fight us on it).

3. Incorporate this new data plan into the official iPhone plans that include Visual Voicemail etc. Dropping the rates by $30 each would probably work (so $30-85 [plus the $7 system access fee])

4. Drop that system access fee that's on everything, at just incorporate it into the price if it's needed. The marketing tactic isn't fooling anyone (intelligent).

5. Drop the August 31st deadline. If this isn't just an attempt to quiet down the masses, why have a time line on when you'll be more fair before resorting back to ripping everyone off.

Overall, this does look like a positive move for all, Rogers and it's customers, lets hope it's not a 1 step forward, 2 steps back situation.

* Disclaimer: this is just my own guesstimate, no numbers to back this up.
 
Not bad.. What I want to know is if at&t's unlimited data plan is really soft capped at 5GB? What is the speed reduced to if you go over 5GB?
 
Just goes to show that whining and bitching SOMETIMES gets you what you want or need................ :D
 
Mon dieu.. 6GB is AMAZING coming from Rogers but people still manage to complain, sure it isn't unlimited but its heck alot better than some of the caps some iPhone countries have. What would people rather have 6GB for $30 or 400MB for $60?

I just got off the phone with the lady at Rogers, she says that I'm «fully» eligible for an iPhone upgrade, which is weird because I did an upgrade 11 months ago not realizing the phone would arrive to Canada

*crosses fingers*

I hope theres plenty in stock here in Quebec.. thats if I can get one
 
the 6gb for $30 doesnt include voicemail

Visual Voicemail is not the $8 Voicemail option that they have advertised.

Visual Voicemail is included in all iPhones, regardless of the plan. I'm assuming it eats out of your data usage.

I forgot to ask, but I'm pretty confident that WiFi is also included with all iPhone plans regardless of your plan. I'm going to have my Safari ID itself as Safari for iPhone which (as proved in the US) will allow me to use my MacBook Pro on their WiFi network for fweeeee. :D
 
Also, there is no other company in Canada with a 3G network, so Apple wouldn't be able to turn to anyone else. It's either Rogers or no one.

Correction, there is no other company in Canada with an HSDPA network either than Rogers/Fido.

Telus, Bell, MTS and Sasktel all have 3G EV-DO networks, just not HSDPA

*muscles tense up*

I PAID TELUS $25 for 4 MB?!


Especially on that POS Moto Q. GRR

Telus has a $30 unlimited plan now, and ouch, I feel for you owning a Q. MTS in MB basically gave them away because they were so terrible.. my friends actually bought into it and regretted the $0 Q after realizing it was junk
 
> 6gb?

Do you guys really expect to go over on the 6GB? Do you know how long that would take to load over edge and not tethered? Even on 3G... I don't think I can look at the screen and surf for that long. I don't think I've ever used more than 1GB in a month.
 
The question still might be availability.

The fact that Rogers made this a time limited offer instead of a regular part of their pricing schedule is suspicious.
Me thinks its the best marketing ploy yet :p Get everyone riled. Start a petition. Figure out what kind of noise it can make. Then try and come out the good guy. Im still not convinced. Its not Unlimited and its def not cheap. I can afford it. I just cant justify it :p
 
Visual Voicemail is not the $7 Voicemail option that they have advertised.

Visual Voicemail is included in all iPhones, regardless of the plan. I'm assuming it eats out of your data usage.

I forgot to ask, but I'm pretty confident that WiFi is also included with all iPhone plans regardless of your plan. I'm going to have my Safari ID itself as Safari for iPhone which (as proved in the US) will allow me to use my MacBook Pro on their WiFi network for fweeeee. :D

According to the link below, it isn't included and is $8 extra and is separate from data.

http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/07/09/rogers.6gb.iphone.3g/
 
Visual Voice Mail is $8 / month if you don't get the "iPhone" bundle plans.

Can you link to that source please? The retentions rep told me that Visual Voicemail is on all iPhones regardless of the plan.

The way I understand it is that Visual Voicemail is on the iPhone itself and uses the 3G connection to retrieve the messages so probably dipping into your available data, hence no plan required.
 
Temporary placation - not fair resolution

This is NOT a fair resolution, "success" in any measure, or even a good sign for wireless customers going forward.

What Rogers has done is dropped the price on one portion of their plan, for a temporary time only, and spun it as a promotional "benefit" for their early customers.

This does NOT set any precedent for realistic data (or voice) prices permanently. It says they will absorb a minimal loss (compared to the loss of having no-one sign up initially) by taking advantage of the psychology of the situation - that any concession by Rogers looks like a "win" to the petitioners, regardless of how lousy the concession is - and Rogers' knows this.

Neither does this relieve customers from the ridiculous length of the contract, nor from the other unfair and unnecessary costs (system access fee? you can't use their service without "accessing the system" - the monthly cost *is* the "access fee"!) etc.

Anyone who cheers at the so-called success of the ruinediphone.com petition is merely being blindsided by the novelty of having signed it and seeing a minimal bone thrown.

Look at the bigger picture - after Aug. 1st you are back to Screwed Square 1.
 
They are just playing games. Nobody says this promotional offer will be good for how long, once you sign up and 6 months or 1 year later, they'll bump you to a normal plan. That's the normal catch they use.
 
This is NOT a fair resolution, "success" in any measure, or even a good sign for wireless customers going forward.

What Rogers has done is dropped the price on one portion of their plan, for a temporary time only, and spun it as a promotional "benefit" for their early customers.

This does NOT set any precedent for realistic data (or voice) prices permanently. It says they will absorb a minimal loss (compared to the loss of having no-one sign up initially) by taking advantage of the psychology of the situation - that any concession by Rogers looks like a "win" to the petitioners, regardless of how lousy the concession is - and Rogers' knows this.

Neither does this relieve customers from the ridiculous length of the contract, nor from the other unfair and unnecessary costs (system access fee? you can't use their service without "accessing the system" - the monthly cost *is* the "access fee"!) etc.

Anyone who cheers at the so-called success of the ruinediphone.com petition is merely being blindsided by the novelty of having signed it and seeing a minimal bone thrown.

Look at the bigger picture - after Aug. 1st you are back to Screwed Square 1.

You think that Rogers won't keep this plan permanently?

It would be suicide for them to go back to the other data plans. Its going to eventually be permanent, or something close to it. There is NO going back now.
 
GREAT news. Assuming Fido duplicates this offer (as I want per-second billing) I will be attempting to get one of these babys on the 11th. If not, definitely before the 31st of August.

A $20 voice plan + 30 for 6GB + 8 for VVM = $58 + SAF+911 etc = Approximately $65 a month. FAR easier to swallow than what it was going to cost earlier with the $60 a month plan.

:):)

Thanks again to everyone who put the Pressure on Rogers/Fido.
 
This is NOT a fair resolution, "success" in any measure, or even a good sign for wireless customers going forward.

What Rogers has done is dropped the price on one portion of their plan, for a temporary time only, and spun it as a promotional "benefit" for their early customers.

This does NOT set any precedent for realistic data (or voice) prices permanently. It says they will absorb a minimal loss (compared to the loss of having no-one sign up initially) by taking advantage of the psychology of the situation - that any concession by Rogers looks like a "win" to the petitioners, regardless of how lousy the concession is - and Rogers' knows this.

Neither does this relieve customers from the ridiculous length of the contract, nor from the other unfair and unnecessary costs (system access fee? you can't use their service without "accessing the system" - the monthly cost *is* the "access fee"!) etc.

Anyone who cheers at the so-called success of the ruinediphone.com petition is merely being blindsided by the novelty of having signed it and seeing a minimal bone thrown.

Look at the bigger picture - after Aug. 1st you are back to Screwed Square 1.

You're right, they still rip you off in many ways, but this is a big enough bone for me.

I still won't use my iPhone to replace my landline though. I would if minutes were cheaper and were cross-Canada, like US minutes. It's ridiculous that you have to pay long distance on top of it (and a lot of my family lives out of town.) Long distance costs nothing these days, no way I'm paying $35 cents a minute *in addition* to airtime! So, in a year or two when they fix that I'll sign up. But the data deal, even though a limited-time offer, is good enough for me.
 
This is NOT a fair resolution, "success" in any measure, or even a good sign for wireless customers going forward.

What Rogers has done is dropped the price on one portion of their plan, for a temporary time only, and spun it as a promotional "benefit" for their early customers.

This does NOT set any precedent for realistic data (or voice) prices permanently. It says they will absorb a minimal loss (compared to the loss of having no-one sign up initially) by taking advantage of the psychology of the situation - that any concession by Rogers looks like a "win" to the petitioners, regardless of how lousy the concession is - and Rogers' knows this.

Neither does this relieve customers from the ridiculous length of the contract, nor from the other unfair and unnecessary costs (system access fee? you can't use their service without "accessing the system" - the monthly cost *is* the "access fee"!) etc.

Anyone who cheers at the so-called success of the ruinediphone.com petition is merely being blindsided by the novelty of having signed it and seeing a minimal bone thrown.

Look at the bigger picture - after Aug. 1st you are back to Screwed Square 1.

Exactly!

Bunch of lemmings running towards the fire screaming we won!

Winning would be permanent not ending Aug.31st. Winning would be no contract or 2yrs not 3yrs.

It's a sleight of hand trick and people are falling for it.
 
Do not cave!! If you buy the iPhone with this "6GB for $30" Things are only going to get worse for people. If we cave, they will think that we Canadians will take whatever they give us. If we keep standing up to them, then they will only cave more !!! :(COME ON PEOPLE!

People were willing to take 25MB for nearly $100 not long ago, so things have changed, then competitors came out with better plans and many customers went to the other carriers, and eventually Rogers had to change their plans to compete
 
"Customers attending launch day events at these Rogers Plus stores will be treated to a free early bird breakfast...."

Hey! Totally unfair... AT&T isn't offering us free breakfasts. Someone start a petition please. :p

This is good news for Canadians although 3 years is still an awfully long time. Good job to whoever started the petition and all of those who signed it.

Isn't it more than what AT&T offers? I thought AT&T capped unlimited at 5GB, can anyone confirm/deny this?

Yes. That is where my laptop card is capped and I have never gone over it.
 
This is NOT a fair resolution, "success" in any measure, or even a good sign for wireless customers going forward.

What Rogers has done is dropped the price on one portion of their plan, for a temporary time only, and spun it as a promotional "benefit" for their early customers.

This does NOT set any precedent for realistic data (or voice) prices permanently. It says they will absorb a minimal loss (compared to the loss of having no-one sign up initially) by taking advantage of the psychology of the situation - that any concession by Rogers looks like a "win" to the petitioners, regardless of how lousy the concession is - and Rogers' knows this.

Neither does this relieve customers from the ridiculous length of the contract, nor from the other unfair and unnecessary costs (system access fee? you can't use their service without "accessing the system" - the monthly cost *is* the "access fee"!) etc.

Anyone who cheers at the so-called success of the ruinediphone.com petition is merely being blindsided by the novelty of having signed it and seeing a minimal bone thrown.

Look at the bigger picture - after Aug. 1st you are back to Screwed Square 1.

You might be screwed if you dont sign up, not me, who will be there on the first day and get this bonus. You will never get bumped down to a lower plan for rogers, so people would be safe for those who signed up.
 
Do not cave!! If you buy the iPhone with this "6GB for $30" Things are only going to get worse for people. If we cave, they will think that we Canadians will take whatever they give us. If we keep standing up to them, then they will only cave more !!! :(COME ON PEOPLE!

You sound like the kind of fella that won't be happy unless its free. Even then....

Give it a rest. This is precisely the kind of deal everyone was hoping for - a TON of data for a reasonable price. You're kidding yourself if you think you'd use it all.

Why is it so hard to admit that Rogers is actually doing the right thing?
 
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