How much are they charging you to cancel for your current phone? I upgraded in November and would have to wait until this coming November to upgrade. I'd be interested in hearing how much they're going to charge to get out of it.
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Rogers Canada Offers 6GB Data Plan for $30/Month
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How much are they charging you to cancel for your current phone? I upgraded in November and would have to wait until this coming November to upgrade. I'd be interested in hearing how much they're going to charge to get out of it.
I'm glad it worked out fine for the Canadians, but we're being totally ripped off here in Portugal.
The cheapest plan Vodafone is offering is around 47USD, with 100min OR SMS's (one or the other) and 250MB a month.
On the other hand, the most expensive is 102USD for 500min or SMS's and also 250MB
outrageous, right?
That's a lot by your standards on that side of the atlantic ocean, but here, the minimum wage is 400 euro (628USD) / month, so that makes it even more absurd.
Anyway, just a little rant. We're also signing a petition, but it's not going so good, with only around 300 signatures.
Let's hope we have the same luck as the Canadians!
The cheapest plan Vodafone is offering is around 47USD, with 100min OR SMS's (one or the other) and 250MB a month.
On the other hand, the most expensive is 102USD for 500min or SMS's and also 250MB
outrageous, right?That's a lot by your standards on that side of the atlantic ocean, but here, the minimum wage is 400 euro (628USD) / month, so that makes it even more absurd.
Anyway, just a little rant. We're also signing a petition, but it's not going so good, with only around 300 signatures.
Let's hope we have the same luck as the Canadians!
Great Quote
John Boynton, the senior vice-president and chief marketing officer of Rogers Wireless, said in an interview the promotional offer is in response to customer concerns.
What were trying to do is satisfy a very small group of people, the early adopters, he said. When those customers are done, were back to our basic user.
From: http://www.thestar.com/News/article/457180
What he means is:
We're trying to silence the people that pay attention and are complaining, once they shut the F up, we can get back to our regularly scheduled ass-raping activities.
John Boynton, the senior vice-president and chief marketing officer of Rogers Wireless, said in an interview the promotional offer is in response to customer concerns.
What were trying to do is satisfy a very small group of people, the early adopters, he said. When those customers are done, were back to our basic user.
From: http://www.thestar.com/News/article/457180
What he means is:
We're trying to silence the people that pay attention and are complaining, once they shut the F up, we can get back to our regularly scheduled ass-raping activities.
I mean it could be possible down the line. But it would have been to early, the week before to take the boxes back from the stores, put them on a ship where they will waste away for 2 weeks until they hit Europe, I doubt they would waste money Airing it. I could see us having protracted shortages into August and maybe September if the rumor is true, but I think launch day won't see any less phones. If they were truly so short, they would have limited it to one per customer, not two.
That's a great quote and your interpretation is likely dead on. Thankfully for me and probably many here, I was planning on being an early adopter, so long as they had a reasonable deal. So, now I can benefit from my, and other's, complaints.
6,200 minutes of Youtube a month. I sure hope no one is planning on watching 3.5 hours a day of youtube on his or her phone!
if they made the contract 2 years and offered a "limited time" offer of 20 bucks for 4 gb id be in. also I hope visual voicemail is just a standard iphone feature that works as soon as you have voicemail. because it its 8 bucks on top of that then that is laaaaaame.
The fact is rogers voice plans have always been total sh*t. So adding data on top of this will always feel ridiculously expensive. my voice plan is around 60 - 80 a month (tax incl). adding data on top of that is just to much. ah well. maybe next year.
is this $30 for fido too? because then I could get some ultra cheap fido plan and add this on.
The fact is rogers voice plans have always been total sh*t. So adding data on top of this will always feel ridiculously expensive. my voice plan is around 60 - 80 a month (tax incl). adding data on top of that is just to much. ah well. maybe next year.
is this $30 for fido too? because then I could get some ultra cheap fido plan and add this on.
Baby steps
This is just a baby step in the right direction... Don't get me wrong I think this is a good move for Roger's and for it's customers. Roger's should be applauded for being responsive, and doubly so for being response in such a short time frame (big companies don't/can't usually move so quickly). However, IMHO the true goal should be "more flexibility for the consumer." I hope Oilchange.com continues the revolution (Oilchange.com bought ruinediphone.com)
Therefore the "win" here for the consumer is that a data plan is being offered uncoupled from the voice plan. Not that you could have a data plan without a voice plan (that'd be even better, similar to all of us that would like DSL without a voice plan and get screwed in the process), but you don't need a top tier ($$) voice plan to get a robust data plan, or vice versa.
The ideal would be that all services would be offered a la cart at differing price points.. and all without a contract. Pick independently from 4-5 voice plans, 4-5 messaging plans, 4-5 data plans, and be free to take your hardware elsewhere at any time. Do recall that while not "sanctioned" there are apps out there for VOIP and Tethering. Rogers is wise to not assume users wouldn't make use of those and run up there data use accordingly. Therefore, if the top tier of those were to be unlimited, that's great, but those SHOULD be expensive. I'm much more concerned at the value of the bottom tier of service than at the top.
Specifically in regards to Rogers text messaging I obviously think paying separately for text message plans is fantastic and should NOT change. Personally I don't use that many text messages a month (a dozen or so at most) and it's always cheaper for me to pay per message than $5 for 200 or whatever the AT&T package happens to be. Further there are now apps that bypass text messaging altogether. I would hate to lose the opportunity to "save" a few dollars by being forced into a package I wouldn't make use of.
So, again this is just a baby step for consumers, an important one, but small one.
For all those that can't imagine non-unlimited plans... consider this. Once upon a time we had land line based phones and there was no such thing as contracts nor unlimited plans. It was simple you paid for what you used. Further mobile phones now all have the processing power and communication facility to accurately track your expenses in real time. Few providers make use of such functionality easily accessible because if they did YOU the consumer might reduce your usage if you were, but you could and would know at any instant exactly how much of your allotted minutes, messages, data cap you've utilized.
This is just a baby step in the right direction... Don't get me wrong I think this is a good move for Roger's and for it's customers. Roger's should be applauded for being responsive, and doubly so for being response in such a short time frame (big companies don't/can't usually move so quickly). However, IMHO the true goal should be "more flexibility for the consumer." I hope Oilchange.com continues the revolution (Oilchange.com bought ruinediphone.com)
Therefore the "win" here for the consumer is that a data plan is being offered uncoupled from the voice plan. Not that you could have a data plan without a voice plan (that'd be even better, similar to all of us that would like DSL without a voice plan and get screwed in the process), but you don't need a top tier ($$) voice plan to get a robust data plan, or vice versa.
The ideal would be that all services would be offered a la cart at differing price points.. and all without a contract. Pick independently from 4-5 voice plans, 4-5 messaging plans, 4-5 data plans, and be free to take your hardware elsewhere at any time. Do recall that while not "sanctioned" there are apps out there for VOIP and Tethering. Rogers is wise to not assume users wouldn't make use of those and run up there data use accordingly. Therefore, if the top tier of those were to be unlimited, that's great, but those SHOULD be expensive. I'm much more concerned at the value of the bottom tier of service than at the top.
Specifically in regards to Rogers text messaging I obviously think paying separately for text message plans is fantastic and should NOT change. Personally I don't use that many text messages a month (a dozen or so at most) and it's always cheaper for me to pay per message than $5 for 200 or whatever the AT&T package happens to be. Further there are now apps that bypass text messaging altogether. I would hate to lose the opportunity to "save" a few dollars by being forced into a package I wouldn't make use of.
So, again this is just a baby step for consumers, an important one, but small one.
For all those that can't imagine non-unlimited plans... consider this. Once upon a time we had land line based phones and there was no such thing as contracts nor unlimited plans. It was simple you paid for what you used. Further mobile phones now all have the processing power and communication facility to accurately track your expenses in real time. Few providers make use of such functionality easily accessible because if they did YOU the consumer might reduce your usage if you were, but you could and would know at any instant exactly how much of your allotted minutes, messages, data cap you've utilized.
I just got off the phone with Fido and it looks like at this moment they DO NOT offer the $30 6gig/mo plan. I made the lady check 3 times. She said that it may change, but as far as it goes right now for their $30 data package, it's 300megs. Lame. She was very clueless at first. After the second time checking she was finially starting to catch on.
Lmao, I never thought I'd hear someone say "Rogers" and "is doing the right thing" in the same sentence! Beautiful!
Anyways, this really excites me. I can get 20$ a month for 200 minutes. So 20 + 30 + 6.95 + 0.50 = $57.45/month + taxes. Called ID + SMS is 11 extra (ripoff, but will probably still get it). It's a lot more than I'm paying now but the benefits are well worth it.
We'll be able to use the iPhone as it was meant to be - a breakthrough internet communications device!
Well, this iPhone launch is one of the few time Fido CS is completely behind Rogers CS. I got off the phone again with Fido, inquiring about what the iPhone cost will be to existing customers who are still in contract. This time it went to a supervisor, Moe. Moe could only tell me that they did not have any information about what it would cost existing customers, who are not in their hardware upgrade window, to upgrade. He suggested I cancel my existing 3 year contract (14 months in), pay the $200+tax cancelation fee and then buy the iPhone at $199 ($299) and sign up for a new contract. He was very insistent that only the iPhones would be available to be, although when I mentioned today's press release he acknowledged that as an option. He said that had no flexibility to remove the cancelation fee nor did he have any knowledge as to what my cost for the phone would be if I did not cancel, but bought it as an existing customer with my current contract. In short, he was unhelpful.
The $30 6GB plan is in effect (IIRC) on Friday, so of course they wouldnt have it in their system yet
She's wrong. The press release is on Fido.ca under the media section (link at bottom of page).
I've found the customer service people at Fido are told absolutely nothing.
Check the press room at Rogers, it had separate press-releases for Fido and Rogers, so it is available.
So I think 6 big questions loom:
Does this plan come with Visual Voicemail?
Does the iPhone come with Visual Voicemail for free?
Does this plan come with unlimited Hotspots?
Does the iPhone come with unlimited Hotspots for free?
Can Fido City Plans be used with it?
Can we use the $15/$20 iPhone Value Packs (which have a lot more texts than the normal $15 pack) with this data plan and our own voice plan?
6 Big Questions that will decide if I go with unlimited or 750MB Cap. I really doubt I am going to use more than 750MB, I just prefer the other plans better like $30 for 200 minutes/ Unlimited Fido to Fido/Rogers. I mean that plan is equivalent in terms of voice usages to the $75 iPhone plan to me. And if I pay $30+30 for data, thats only $60 compared to $75. Of course $5 extra to get the equal amount of texts, so $65 to $75, but if I am charged for Visual Voicemail, the difference become almost none except I get much higher data. And if I don't get unlimited Hotspots, which I planned to use with my laptop, then suddenly the iPhone Bundle starts to look a lot better, let alone if I can't use the "iPhone" value packs without that bundle. If I can, then I can forget $5 for texts. But as you can see, while adding much needed flexbility, the number crunching reveals very close prices, depending on these little charges to really prove which is better. Thus unless you find you really need a basically unlimited data plan or can save a lot from a unique voice plan, the bundle might still be the best.
I understand, so sure.. 6GB for $30, is fine.
But you need to add on everything, and that is what will really add up.
Texting, Voice, (and what about the visual voice mail, etc?)
Yes but she specifically said it was only available on Rogers at the moment.
Like I said, I did get her to check it 3 times /w her supervisor.
I'll believe what an official press release on fido.ca actually says over the customer rep and her supervisor says any day.
I'll believe what an official press release on fido.ca actually says over the customer rep and her supervisor says any day.
agreed, and now after looking myself Im going to call back and tell them to read it so they don't give out the wrong information to people