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I doubt it's respect. Remember, they're suing the pants out of each other.

Furthermore, the media will be focused on Steve funeral next week, not CTIA.

Good move on Samsung's part.
 
Where did I say the 4S was behind ? I said it catches-up to the SGS II and SGS II HD on some level (though for the HD and Nexus Prime, it is behind on a few key points, especially in the CPU/Screen arena).

I agree with what you've said, so this may be semantics. BUT! You did say the other product "Destroys" the 4s in almost every way. And that iOS is lacking a number of features, and well behind the competition.

Not trying to start an argument; just pointing that part out...
 
Now, if only MR posters could learn from these companies putting aside differences to show respect.

Nah, lottery is a better bet.

The sheer amount of Apple fanboyism is MR is beyond ridiculous.

Regardless, classy move by Google.
 
I'm utterly disgusted by the pair of them, I've been waiting for confirmation of the primes specs since the dismal 4s showing, how long now??? :mad:
 
Doesn't take that long...

It is respect. You can redo the deck over the weekend. I haven't heard yet. But, I bet the funeral/ceremony is this coming Tuesday.
 
One other thing too...

Steve Jobs died on Wednesday, the funeral could likely be on a Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday.

If the man you respected most died, and you had an event on the same day as his funeral would you cancel your event in respect for him or still go along with it?
 
+respect points to both companies.

Yes yes, they're businesses and as such there's usually room for cynicism - however don't forget, businesses are still run by human beings (many of them actually friends even though they're fierce competitors, just like the best sportsmen). It's nice to be reminded of that occasionally.
 
I think it's just publicity... macrumors, engadget etc. report about this "honorable" move and people get more excited about it. And they promote their "don't be evil" mantra!
It doesn't get better when they announce it today or in a week, Steve is unfortunately dead anyway :(.

Sure it doesn't get better, but at least it has the decency of not trying to usurp Apple's thunder. It's a respectful move, but it's not like they are cancelling all their mobile strategy and exiting the market.

This is some goodwill PR and it gives Apple a chance to get the 4S out the door without any opposition from competitors. They will still announce (Samsung actually already did in the case of the SGS II HD which is close to the rumored Nexus Prime specs).
 
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The product i most likely finished, I don't think they could do much more work on it. Also, the report says the actual launch wont be delayed



Do you have any examples of competitors attacking Jobs personally and not the company Apple?



GS2 has been out for quite some time in many places



That's only your subjective opinion, you don't even have the statistics to give your opinion credibility so don't try and spout it as fact


It sickens me how many of you trash Google and Samsung. No matter what they do, you fanboys keep twisting it to make them out to be evil. You would probably find some evil alterior motive if they invented the cure for AIDS.

It's sad how people won't see things as it is.
 
iPhone 4S to SGS II HD ? Hum, the SGS II HD has better screen resolution (4.65" at 1280x720), a faster processor, the same GPU, SAMOLED with awesome black levels and very good sunlight performance (compared to other OLED implementations), more storage through expendability, removable battery and all the same little features you find in your standard iPhone.

iOS 5 now properly implements notifications (those were annoying) but still doesn't have true multi-tasking of 3rd party applications (still relying on backgrounded tasks and push notifications).

The issues I have with my 3GS right now : Installing app updates freezes once in a while, leaving the app unusable without a reboot. After rebooting, the app is removed from the folder I put it in so I have to move it back.

So no, iOS isn't perfect, Android isn't perfect and the iPhone 4 is not some kind of god phone nor is the iPhone 4S the king of specs.

Again, I'm buying an iPhone 4S, but only because I have an investment in the iOS eco-system. On a comparitive basis, it is not the best phone to get.



Why would it be to blame ? The iPhone 4S does not even have anything that the SGS II doesn't have, much less the SGS II HD.

Not to mention this is the Nexus Prime most probably :

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Now are we going to claim copying ? :rolleyes:

First, Samsung's GPU is an ARM Mali-400 MP
While the iPhone 4S sports a PowerVR SGX543MP2 GPU =)

A rant, not based on your post:

I'm so SICK and TIRED of all this "oh Samsung Galaxy S II has BETTER SPECS"
Do you not get it? Better specs doesn't mean ANYTHING. It is the user interface and simplicity that matters.

This is a classic scenario, and can be compared to how Nintendo DS Lite OWNED the Playstation Portable in terms of sales number.
DS was inferior in tech that PSP, but won that handheld generation gaming by a huge margin.

So please stop saying "oh specs wise this phone is better"
Yeah you guys win, so what?

What GSII/Android right now cannot beat is the integration of SOFTWARE, for example, iOS's iCloud feature is huge, and it seamlessly integrates every i-devices I currently own... iPad, and iPhone.

Next, you may have Google's personal assistant (whatever it's called), like Siri, but no one will implement this feature better than how Apple did it.

This is the SAME as having a video camera on the front. Apple wasn't the first. My 2007 Nokia N97 had a front facing camera long ago, but Apple was the one who pushed this feature out. Trust me. Android phones as powerful as GSII may have the LEAD in specs.... but it will never beat iPhone in terms of overall usability.

You guys can stick with an all out tech savy phone
I'll order a nice iPhone 4S and enjoy the deep software integration...
 
As a practical matter, a little time will allow all the publicity about Apple & Steve to get off the front page so that their products get the attention they think they deserve. It will also provide an opportunity for them to discuss resolution of any lingering legal issues they might have. It seems like everybody in the industry is suing everybody else and buying up patents left and right to shore up their position.
 
I hate to belittle the possibility of these companies doing something "nice" but to me it all sounds like, "this is a great excuse for delaying our release while we work like crazy to "catch-up" or put together a better product to actually compete with Apple's new phone. All the while making ourselves look good."

This is not respect - it's politics and PR.

LOL how much catching up do you think they can do in a week?
 
Where did I say the 4S was behind ? I said it catches-up to the SGS II and SGS II HD on some level (though for the HD and Nexus Prime, it is behind on a few key points, especially in the CPU/Screen arena).

I am sorry I misunderstood.

However, I am certain the A5 will win in benchmarks and real life tests despite is being slightly slower, maybe the 1.5ghz dual-cores will perform faster though. just like the A4 outperformed last gen android cpus.

then realize you are comparing a 4.65inch phone with a 3.5inch phone, one is way more portable and compact
 
First, Samsung's GPU is an ARM Mali-400 MP
While the iPhone 4S sports a PowerVR SGX543MP2 GPU =)

The rumor is that the Nexus Prime will have the SGX543MP2. And what does their Exynos SoC use ? You do know the SGS II has 2 SoCs, the Exynos 1.5 ghz dual-core and the TI-OMAP 1.2 ghz dual-core, depending on the model/country of release.
 
I am sorry I misunderstood.

However, I am certain the A5 will win in benchmarks and real life tests despite is being slightly slower, maybe the 1.5ghz dual-cores will perform faster though. just like the A4 outperformed last gen android cpus.

then realize you are comparing a 4.65inch phone with a 3.5inch phone, one is way more portable and compact

Not to mention software optimization. the Android cpu could be twice as fast, if iOS and it's apps and much more streamlined and compact, iOS would win...
 
I am sorry I misunderstood.

However, I am certain the A5 will win in benchmarks and real life tests despite is being slightly slower, maybe the 1.5ghz dual-cores will perform faster though. just like the A4 outperformed last gen android cpus.

I wouldn't be so sure, the Exynos 4212 that Samsung is now using is quite impressive.

then realize you are comparing a 4.65inch phone with a 3.5inch phone, one is way more portable and compact

It's 1 cm and 1.5 cm respecitvely wider and taller. The iPhone is not "more portable and compact", it barely registers.
 
I haven't read the other comments, but didn't Samsung go to court the day his death was announced in an attempt to block sales and imports of the iPhone ?

So while they may have postponed the release of said product, it could be much more likely that releasing said item in such time could still be ovrshadowed by such and be detrimental to the release. Especially if they release any features that are heavily borrowed from Apples design book.
 
Well, considering they are announcing a device that pretty much destroys the iPhone 4S on every spec (you can get a preview by looking at the SGS II HD announced in Korea just a few weeks ago), with an updated OS that iOS still has to catch up to, with features Apple can only dream of (Google Wallet/NFC) and they were doing it 2 days before the launch of the iPhone 4S... Yeah I'd say it was a move to steal Apple's thunder.

Too bad it won't buy them any sympathy in here.

One would think that of all weeks, this would be the one that persons as yourself would have a plethora of information as to to how and why Steve Jobs and his teams at Apple and Pixar were and will continue to be so successful.

Perhaps you consciously avoided such articles and media that elaborated on Steve Jobs and his time at Apple, Next, and Pixar. Perhaps your skills at comprehension of information even on this site's extensive coverage of Steve Jobs are lacking.

Either way, the answers to why Steve Jobs and Apple , and now Tim Cook and Apple don't play the specs game is pretty well known. It isn't as though people here haven't pointed all that out to you before is it?
 
it's business - not respect!!

I hate to belittle the possibility of these companies doing something "nice" but to me it all sounds like, "this is a great excuse for delaying our release while we work like crazy to "catch-up" or put together a better product to actually compete with Apple's new phone. All the while making ourselves look good."

This is not respect - it's politics and PR.

I agree, this has nothing to do with respect. I believe that Samsung and Google stopped the release simply because the tech world is too occupied with Steve's death, and the companies would not get full attention on their products.

Apple is releasing the 4S on schedule b/c they can play the "This is what Steve wanted"-card, and actually gain a positive spin on they new 4S.

I have the deepest respect for Steve Jobs and Apple; and so do Google and Samsung probably. But they would not postpone a release if it wasn't the best thing to do for the stockholders. Nothing personal, just business, no crime in that!
 
That sounds nice and all... but I agree with those who think it's more that Samsung realized announcing the new Nexus in between the iPhone 4S keynote and release date may not be the best idea, as a business decision.
 
A rant, not based on your post:

I'm so SICK and TIRED of all this "oh Samsung Galaxy S II has BETTER SPECS"
Do you not get it? Better specs doesn't mean ANYTHING. It is the user interface and simplicity that matters.

This is a classic scenario, and can be compared to how Nintendo DS Lite OWNED the Playstation Portable in terms of sales number.
DS was inferior in tech that PSP, but won that handheld generation gaming by a huge margin.

So please stop saying "oh specs wise this phone is better"
Yeah you guys win, so what?

What GSII/Android right now cannot beat is the integration of SOFTWARE, for example, iOS's iCloud feature is huge, and it seamlessly integrates every i-devices I currently own... iPad, and iPhone.

...

You guys can stick with an all out tech savy phone
I'll order a nice iPhone 4S and enjoy the deep software integration...

It's especially puzzling to see on a board dedicated to Apple, the poster boy of user experience over raw specs. If specs were so definitive, Apple would have crashed and burned long ago (well, more than they did). Plus, especially in mobiles, the deep integration helps Apple squeeze out a bit more in real world performance than would otherwise be expected from more middling specs.
 
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