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Most phones have crap battery life over time. When I first got my Note 2 I was easily pushing 24 hours+ on a single charge. And now with the same amount of use I can't make it through the day without plugging it up to the charger in my office. iPhones are the same way, that's why portable chargers are available. Or having an extra battery on hand is such a nice option.
 
The UPSM performs exactly as it's supposed to perform. It gives you the ability to use the phone in emergency situations (as you stated) without worrying if your phone is going to die before you can charge it. Seems to me that is something every phone maker should have. I don't see a downside. I think I would rather turn my $800 smartphone into a $50 phone than have it be an $800 paperweight.

All true. But if given the option to continue using it as an $800 smartphone, most people probably would. That would mean they’d be sitting there with their phone plugged in just like everyone else. UPSM is great for emergencies, I don’t deny that, and I think that pretty much every phone should have something similar. But if the average person is near an outlet in an airport with their charger, they’ll plug in instead of turning UPSM on, because they want to continue to play Angry Birds or check Facebook.

So the whole premise of this ad, while technically correct, doesn’t take into account the actual use case most people want from their phone. Airports are not where people will be using UPSM. Stranded on the side of the road after their car blows up and their phone is about dead is where people will be using UPSM. Useful feature, though, and like I said, I think all phones should have something similar.
 
I was actually thinking about that as well. from an advertising perspective, this ad sort of blows up in samsung's face because it's missing context (context being that iPhones don't have this power saving feature and therefore needs to be charged more often). everyone here understands the context of this ad because we all follow the samsung/apple rivalry closely. but the general public doesn't.

instead what samsung has basically done is branded a whole bunch of power outlets as samsung charging stations.

the context is anyone who had to hunt down a plug - including Samsung owners. this is why it says S5.
 
You clearly don't.

I'm a Mac and I'm a PC.

The dull guy in the Grey suit represents a dull computer running a dull OS.

The "cool hipster dude" represents a Mac that is bright and fun with a "fun" OS.

Hope that helped you.

The bias is strong with this one.
 
Why would you care if Apple gets free advertisement?

It's not even accurate. How is Apple getting any free advertising. The ad doesn't mention Apple. Again the general public will read that ad a t face value. The phone they have needs charging. If they had a Samsung (supposedly) they would likely not have to charge their phone.
 
here I thought that Samsung was saying that their phones have better battery life. But really do they. Sure this "Ultra" mode is awesome, 24 hours of STANDBY with basically all of your phone shut off. But iOS can basically do that also. Dim the display, turn off everything, don't use any apps.

But what about when you are using your phone. How many hours can a typical moderate user get on Samsung's phone with everything on. How many can an iPhone user.
 
All true. But if given the option to continue using it as an $800 smartphone, most people probably would. That would mean they’d be sitting there with their phone plugged in just like everyone else. UPSM is great for emergencies, I don’t deny that, and I think that pretty much every phone should have something similar. But if the average person is near an outlet in an airport with their charger, they’ll plug in instead of turning UPSM on, because they want to continue to play Angry Birds or check Facebook.

So the whole premise of this ad, while technically correct, doesn’t take into account the actual use case most people want from their phone. Airports are not where people will be using UPSM. Stranded on the side of the road after their car blows up and their phone is about dead is where people will be using UPSM. Useful feature, though, and like I said, I think all phones should have something similar.

We're basically in agreement. This ad, any ad really, is about perception. I don't think Samsung cares about use case as much as they care about pushing the perception that their phones have better battery life than the iPhone. It's the same with any vendor, including Apple. Think about it. Which one of the Your Verse ads depicts typical usage by most people? When we start to break down the technical aspects of ads we've already gone beyond the intent of the advertiser. IMO of course.:)
 
I have several Android friends who mock the iPhone regularly, but not one of them has a Samsung phone.

You raise an interesting point. Has Samsung beaten their own sub market hands down? Should they be looking at that equally if not more at this point. After all, they might entice some folks to not 'iPhone' but it doesn't always equal getting a Samsung. There are few to know Samsung stores in the US so those buyers are going to the carrier or places like Best Buy where right next to that Samsung are a half dozen other Android phones. How to stop them from window shopping and get something else.

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They were a personification of the two computers, not the users. The PC itself was the dork, not the PC user. Samsung however are basically saying "Hey iPhone fans, you're stupid because you won't use our phones".

Apple was also smart because they 'attacked' common complaints about using Windows.

At the time, for example, that they did the Jeff Goldblum ad, getting a PC meant turning it on, dealing with a bunch of DOS prompts, installing Windows etc yourself. Versus getting a Mac where all that stuff was doing for you so you plugged it in, turned it in and "there is no step 3". Even today you turn it on, answer maybe 5 minutes of questions, perhaps migrate some data from another machine for 24 or so hours and that's that. Time consuming if you need to move info but otherwise child's play.

Another complaint, dealing with viruses etc. Yes Macs are not immune to all viruses but the ratio of Mac to PC malware is like 0.2:99.8.

and so on.

for going 'negative' they were rather clever about it.
 
You clearly don't.

I'm a Mac and I'm a PC.

The dull guy in the Grey suit represents a dull computer running a dull OS.

The "cool hipster dude" represents a Mac that is bright and fun with a "fun" OS.

Hope that helped you.

I'm supposed to buy in to an argument from someone who has an Apple quote in their signature? (Which in itself is strange enough) but do you really think you can make an objective argument?
 
A bit hypocritical considering that Samsung's latest announcement was a phone aiming to take on the iPhone 6; with a 4.7" display and a 1,850mAh battery. Seriously, that's smaller than the speculated 2,100mAh battery, predicted to be in the iPhone 6.
 
Several years... That's a bit like saying that macs are awful because OS 8 looks soooo clumsy.

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Thank you. Like I said, personal preference is what it boils down to. Why is this so hard to understand?

It is not hard to understand. I merely gave my opinion and my preference, and am attacked for it. It's pretty pointless to discuss anything on here any more. People take it all so personally and seriously. And so many people are also paid to come on the site and trash Apple. Particularly late night in the US (daytime some other locations). At such times, if you watch the forums, it often turns into 90% responders hate Apple. And are on an Apple discussion site.
 
Why don't people just charge their phones before going to the airport? I never had to hug any wall at an airport because I would always go to the airport with a fully charged phone.
 
I can't be the only person who thinks that "Ultra Power Saving module" is about the least intelligent name for a feature that anyone could think of.
 
I'm supposed to buy in to an argument from someone who has an Apple quote in their signature? (Which in itself is strange enough) but do you really think you can make an objective argument?

Whats my sig got to do with anything? Is this not an Apple site?

If you don't understand the ad properly I guess that's your issue.
 
So get them the same make and model. Problem solved. You wouldn't get them computers with different OS's and versions, why would you do it with the phones?

I did, they are called iPhones ;)
No really, you just made my point. That I shouldn't get them different operating systems with different software versions. Even of I bought them all the same Android phone, its operating system is likely end of life. They will never support update of Android on that phone. And any updates to the individual enterprise apps for the business, should they update their software, has no guarantee of still working on whatever version of Android my phone is stuck using. We have both seen the articles detailing all of the security risks this imposes on Android. Only one of us chooses to ignore that.
 
Lte is disabled when the phone sleeps and is on when used.I just typed this post on ultra power mode on verizon 4G lte network

Maybe u should research before you hate on it

LTE being off when my screen is off is not a bonus. So significant files cannot be received by my phone, such as that PDF file or video I am waiting for from work unless my phone is awake, because it sure isn't going to load well over 3G anytime soon in the background with my phone sleeping. I have a researched it, and I do hate it, sorry to disagree with you. I can turn off all the same features on any phone, (not just an iPhone) without any special mode that makes the phone a nuisance to use when I do want to use it. (Like only 6 pre-approved apps that can be used, and no Wi-Fi. Buy that phone's stunning screen so you can put it into black and white mode? Hilarious.

The phone is excellent, for the record, IMO. I am not hating on the phone, just the gimmicky marketing angle they are using. In my opinion, it is disingenuous. If I am down to 10% on ANY phone with no charge option, I'm simply going to turn the brightness all the way down, turn off data and everything but the cellular if it is important to have the phone for calls. And any phone will last for many hours in that configuration. It is simply a non-industry standard for making a bogus battery claim. The battery is better. Significantly. So simply market it as such, normal usage versus normal usage. They aren't making comparisons to any other phone brand that is similarly configured to save power, and that is where lies my issue.
 
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