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No chance for samsung. Their products are obviously copies. The icons even are crappy...

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yes it's obvious who stole.....
 
Record-breaking quarters and the position as the trend-setter in consumer tech.

These legal skirmishes haven't and won't result in any major untoward changes to Apple products. We all know this already.

Are you seriously suggesting that Apple is beyond the law because of record breaking quarters? :rolleyes:
 
This settles it:

Please confirm whether you are intentionally trying to deceive people, or just stupid.

iPhone: Shown to the public Jan. 2007, released April 2007
Samsung F700: Shown to the public Feb. 2007, released November 2007.
 
No chance for samsung. Their products are obviously copies. The icons even are crappy...

Don't kid yourself, Apples just doing what Apple does best, whine and cry. Point fingers and sue. Then con the gullible into buying anything with an Apple logo.

Apple is the worlds best marketing company. The only question is how long before it ends. History proves nothing stays on top forever.
 
Have you seen the pictures in Nilay Patel's article about the suit? They copied the look of the iPhone, exactly. Hell, they even copied some of the icons -- the Phone icon, the iTunes icon. Why would they make the phone icon a white handset angled up and to the right on a green background if they weren't deliberately trying to make it look like an iPhone?

If you're Apple, you absolutely have to sue over this. Otherwise you're saying, okay, anybody who wants to can just make a clone that looks exactly like the iPhone. Anyone who owns a valuable brand has to defend it.

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I hope this post is sarcastic.

The green angled phone icon!? The angled phone has been standard for phones since forever, it was usually the phone itself that was green, the only thing Apple did was making the background green instead. Very generic. Even the standard position for it, the lower left corner, is simply because that's where a phone answer button is normally located.

Chat icon? The only likeness I can see is that it uses a speech bubble, which have been a norm for IM applications since long before Apple introduced iChat. Note that Samsung added a smiley-face.

Nature images and particularly flowers have been a popular motif for photography-related stuff. Camera makers have been using it since the advent of photography.

Gearwheels for settings and configuration? Everyone have been using it since the birth of the GUI

Notes and contacts, both trying to look like their real world counterparts, extremely generic

A music and media related app having a musical note in it's icon, you think Apple came up with that and everyone else just followed? Come on


Look, Windows Media Player stole iTunes "look and feel", and method of starting playback of media content, sue em' Apple!

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Does anyone remember the 'look and feel' case Apple had against the eMachines eOne?

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Having not read the briefs on either side, I can't really offer a knee jerk reaction in either direction. I do find myself both frustrated with the state of intellectual-copyright law and also with the general stagnation in the industry that leads so many to borrow from other companies (mainly Apple). With the exception of Apple we have seen very little disruptive innovation in the last ten years.

My immediate thoughts is that this goes beyond what can be captured in side-by-side photographs. The iPhone is a wildly desirable device and as such is attractive equally to competitors. The issue becomes that rather than differentiate, overwhelmingly, we are seeing companies synthesize and replicate aspects of the iPhone to gain traction. There are deep 'look and feel' issues at play here and over time there is an extent to which it has become a 'cat and mouse' game.

In the end, just like every other one of these cases, it will end in a settlement and both sides will negotiate the most favorable outcome. That whole Creative-Apple row in 2006 ended with Creative becoming one of the first partners in Apple's Made for iPod initiative.
 
It's not 5 patents, it's actually 10 patents. Reuters has some details :

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011...smid=twtr-reuters_ com&WT.z_smid_dest=Twitter

Samsung said the suits, filed in South Korea, Japan and Germany, involved 10 alleged infringements of patents mainly involving power reduction during data transmission, 3G technology for reducing errors during data transmission, and wireless data communication technology.

Again, Apple sues over looks, gets counter-sued over base functionality they can't do without. :rolleyes:

In the end, consumers, be them Apple customers or Samsung customers will lose and the lawyers will win. It's surprising anyone here sees any positive in this.
 
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Looks completely different to me. ;)

How are they different? They are both round with a 3D look and have a triangle with the same alignment and angles in the middle. They even perform the same function, to start playback of media content. Are you really going to nitpick about the colors? That's not different enough, Apple should definetely sue.
 
How are they different? They are both round with a 3D look and have a triangle with the same alignment and angles in the middle. They even perform the same function, to start playback of media content. Are you really going to nitpick about the colors? That's not different enough, Apple should definetely sue.

If you clear your cache and refresh, you'd see the image you are hotlinking to isn't displaying. ;)

Its just a low res image saying go to "my digital life". I think that's what Olly is getting at. :D
 
If you clear your cache and refresh, you'd see the image you are hotlinking to isn't displaying. ;)

Its just a low res image saying go to "my digital life".

Oh, I see. Yeah that's what I saw in the quote of my post but I saw the correct one in my original so I thought that worked. Haha huge fail on me trying to get a point across.
Oh well, if you don't know what the WMP play icon looks like, this one should work:
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And that is reason enough that Samsung should be allowed to rip off Apple products? - I don't think so.

It's not like Apple never ripped off anyone else. iPhone ring a bell :

http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2007/corp_011007.html

Let's not go claim that one side is totally white and the other totally black. These are huge corporations we're talking about. They do things for their own profits.

And anyway, as has been shown, aside from the Vibrant and international i9000 models (those pictures everyone going "Samsung are copycats!" are trumpeting around), the Galaxy S line is quite different from the iPhone and while the icon grid looks the same, one is inside the App Drawer and the other on the home screen. The TouchWiz homescreen doesn't have the icon grid.

This case isn't so clear cut. And now adding the Samsung counter-suit, it's even less. To claim one side is wrong and the other right at this point is quite disingenuous.

Again, let the courts decide. Siding with one corporation or another should not be something we bother with as consumers.
 
Next time, I'd suggest you check the accuracy of the "source" you are trying to use to prove your point. The F700 wasn't shown in 2006, it was announced just after the iPhone and wasn't available until later in 2007...

Quite right, though I doubt 'rolfbert' WILL check his sources next time. Some people never learn.
 
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