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Bloomberg saying something was rushed does not equate to this issue being a matter of a rushed product though. Let's say it is fact thenoroduct was rushed. That doesn't make it fact that these issues are a result of said product being rushed. I'm not saying they are not. Just that we don't know that they are.

I'm going down a 40mph road going 50. My tire blows and I hit a car. Do we blame the collision on me going 50? You could possibly make the argument that going slower would have improved my reaction time. But the hardware failure still wasn't a result of the speed I went (or rushed design).

I keep harping on supply chain as a possible answer. I think it's worth keeping in mind. I'm unsure if you're following the "Touch disease" claims. Was that a matter of bad design? Is it because Apple rushed it? Just a bad batch of hardware? We honestly don't know that yet either. And, as far as we know, it could have been any of those things.
Hear what your saying but strongly feel that given more time, Samsung QC would have noted the issue during testing and perhaps even halted the launch. Will be interesting to see what the aftermath of this mess brings and if it comes out that Samsung was aware of the problem.
 
The best advice is to stick the thing in the freezer.
I can't really see that helping much, other than maybe containing the smoke-- but an old microwave would do just as well for that. Temperature wise, a freezer is only cooling it down by 20C or so-- it's just not that much in the grand scheme of things. The freezer is mostly air, so there's not a lot of thermal mass there to counteract the heat being generated by the battery. It might take a few minutes longer for the phone to really get cooking, but then it would pretty much turn your freezer into an oven.

Submerging it in salt water is probably best, if someone is going to get that serious about it, but that would probably force a reaction. Maybe placing it on a thin sheet of something suspended over salt water? Once it started heating up, it would burn through and drop into the basin.

Still, taking as much energy out of those cells as you can before you store it is probably a good idea.
 
I heard on the news today that Note 7 was not meant to be a money maker for samsung. Samsung wants to use Note 7 to show their top dog as it attracts consumers to other galaxy S phones.
 
This is like iPhone testing phase right now using other phone company. That means next year we still not getting fast charging, compact 3000mah battery and above, 4gb ram and overclocked arm processor when running geekbench. Dang it! We'll behind again and I hate when these tech spec savvy people laughing my at iPhone how behind it is.:rolleyes:
 
Hear what your saying but strongly feel that given more time, Samsung QC would have noted the issue during testing and perhaps even halted the launch. Will be interesting to see what the aftermath of this mess brings.
I can respect your opinion. It sounds to me like your basing that on your gut more than actual fact? Nothing wrong with that, as a consumer anyway. I just feel like plenty here are making presumptive statements as facts.

We all hope that QC works out everything be it hardware or software. The reality is that just isn't the case. This happens to be a monumental health and problem for Samsung. And so that's likely why it's getting so much more limelight.
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And who exactly is fabricating malice?
The claim was that Samsung intentionally overlooked safety standards. That's a very serious claim that, I think we can agree is far from proven.
 
There's a theory that was brought up on Leo Laportes "The Tech Guy" show that all Samsung did was change the firmware on existing devices, and didn't make the needed hardware changes. Kinda makes sense given how quickly they got them out there.
 
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This is like iPhone testing phase right now using other phone company. That means next year we still not getting fast charging, compact 3000mah battery and above, 4gb ram and overclocked arm processor when running geekbench. Dang it! We'll behind again and I hate when these tech spec savvy people laughing my at iPhone how behind it is.:rolleyes:
When you understand what you wrote, let us know.
 
Hahahaha.......choked on my coffee...laughing so hard.

Now this is what you call die hard trolling.

Yes the Titanic sank, but up till then it was the best cruise ever!

Or even better.....

Burned hydrogen filled airship Hindenburg Still More Innovative than those cruise ships.

LOL! LOL! Best response of the thread. That is hilarious. Thank you for that.
 
I can't really see that helping much, other than maybe containing the smoke-- but an old microwave would do just as well for that. Temperature wise, a freezer is only cooling it down by 20C or so-- it's just not that much in the grand scheme of things. The freezer is mostly air, so there's not a lot of thermal mass there to counteract the heat being generated by the battery. It might take a few minutes longer for the phone to really get cooking, but then it would pretty much turn your freezer into an oven.

Submerging it in salt water is probably best, if someone is going to get that serious about it, but that would probably force a reaction. Maybe placing it on a thin sheet of something suspended over salt water? Once it started heating up, it would burn through and drop into the basin.

Still, taking as much energy out of those cells as you can before you store it is probably a good idea.
Alright then how about burying it under two tonnes of concrete, this should do the trick:p
 
I heard on the news today that Note 7 was not meant to be a money maker for samsung. Samsung wants to use Note 7 to show their top dog as it attracts consumers to other galaxy S phones.
Sound like Samsung damage control.
 
Alright then how about burying it under two tonnes of concrete, this should do the trick:p
Yeah, maybe.

I'm just realizing what a logistics nightmare it is to recover a million potentially pyrotechnic mobile devices. How many landfill fires are we going to see? Garbage trucks going ablaze? AT&T kiosks burning to the ground because they're holding the exchanged merchandise? What shipping company is going to carry these back to Samsung?
 
I can respect your opinion. It sounds to me like your basing that on your gut more than actual fact? Nothing wrong with that, as a consumer anyway. I just feel like plenty here are making presumptive statements as facts.

We all hope that QC works out everything be it hardware or software. The reality is that just isn't the case. This happens to be a monumental health and problem for Samsung. And so that's likely why it's getting so much more limelight.
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The claim was that Samsung intentionally overlooked safety standards. That's a very serious claim that, I think we can agree is far from proven.
Yes, we can only speculate at this time and form unbiased opionions based on the anecdotal evidence at hand. With that said, to me at least, I find it very surprising that an issue as severe as this exploding battery wasn't noted during device testing and QC prior to retail launch. Is it possible nothing abnormal was detected beyond the "normal" percent of faulty batteries that may or may not be detected during a device's typical testing phase? Or did Samsung take the opportunity as noted by Bloomberg and rush the device to market by possibly cutting corners? Either way, Samsung better hope that no lives are lost due to this issue. Happy they came clean asking for a halt in device sales worldwide.
 
The best advice is to stick the thing in the freezer.

Are you sure?

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android fans have alot of headline news to digest today...

Samsung kills Note 7, "the King"
iphone 7 beats Note 7 from Anantech's review. Some android fans said anantech is biased because the founder works for apple. but they got no other technical-detail review to claim.

We need Samsung to survive this so that they can keep Apple in check.
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Are you sure?

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missing Gold and Jet black. Next year?
 
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I've no problem with Android. I've a problem with Samsung. It's clear they didn't act appropriate here and I no longer trust what they say or what they make. Internal docs leaked early on showing they cut corners to rush this to market to beat iPhone 7 to store shelves ignoring safety concerns. And when the issue blew up as it were they even then never acted. Very dodgy behaviour from a CE maker. Deplorable and unforgivable.

the note 7 came out the same time as the note before and the note before that one.tge note series always comes out right before the next iPhone.

I see this posted alot but how did Samsung rush the note 7 out when it came out the same exact month and week as the note before it? it was following it's normal release schedule.

the soc is the same exact chip as the galaxy s7 and s7 edge so there was no rushing anything as it was using the same exact guts as the galaxy s7 that came out months ago.
 
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Yes, we can only speculate at this time and form unbiased opionions based on the anecdotal evidence at hand. With that said, to me at least, I find it very surprising that an issue as severe as this exploding battery wasn't noted during device testing and QC prior to retail launch. Is it possible nothing abnormal was detected beyond the "normal" percent of faulty batteries that may or may not be detected during a device's typical testing phase? Or did Samsung take the opportunity as noted by Bloomberg and rush the device to market by possibly cutting corners? Either way, Samsung better hope that no lives are lost due to this issue. Happy they came clean asking for a halt in device sales worldwide.
Realistically the number of phones that have had this issue are relatively small. Out of millions of devices we are seeing dozens. I honestly don't see this as a whole lot different than any other safety related product recall. My sons high chair was just recalled because kids were falling out the front. I assume they still did that standard testing in the product. But I honestly don't even know specifically what sort of testing a product like that (or this) even gets.

Anyway I'm eager to hear what comes of this. See where the chips fall and what/why we have the issue at hand.
 
the note 7 came out the same time as the note before and the note before that one.tge note series always comes out right before the next iPhone.

I see this posted alot but how did Samsung rush the note 7 out when it came out the same exact month and week as the note before it? it was following it's normal release schedule.

the soc is the same exact chip as the galaxy s7 and s7 edge so there was no rushing anything as it was using the same exact guts as the galaxy s7 that came out months ago.

it is true that Note 7 was released on the regular schedule. but with all new features and top spec are compressed in the same release schedule, this part is rushing. or pushing tech to its limit without sufficient testing.
 
"...Consumers with either an original Galaxy Note7 or replacement Galaxy Note7 device should power down and stop using the device and take advantage of the remedies available..."

if you use Note 7 as both your home and mobile phone, shutting it down means cutting off communication to everyone, include 911. some people will take the risk leaving it on.

they said taking advantage of the remedies. what remedies are they referring to? swapping to an iphone 7?
 
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