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Really sad and horrible for competition.
yep, so many years of taking risk to be the first to offer new features/tech, it is finally caught up.... disregard quality/safety to win "spec war"

to those complaining that apple is slow to release new tech, this is a life-time lesson.
1) where is edge to edge?
2) where is wireless changing
3) where is fast charging
4) where is fire...
 
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FAUXING Samsung going to RUIN it for all of us.

Just wait until one of the stupid azz Note 7s burns on a plane, and then everyone will be REQUIRED to put cell phones in that 4oz liquid bag shizz.

Or just wait until a TERRORIST gets the idea to use a phone as a fire BOMB from SHAMEDUNG.
 
Don't worry guys, Samsung is desperately rushing to replace the Note 7 with an entirely new device that will be twice as flashy, twice as rushed, and twice as combustible!

The Tortoise and the Hare couldn't be a better example of Samsung vs Apple. A measured, thoughtful, and deliberate approach will always beat the flashy arrogant stud in the end. Their recklessness in terms of product design and battery safety caught up to them finally. 2a+ charge should never be the default, always used charging rate for batteries this small. It should only ever be an option for when it's necessary. That's just my opinion, from someone who actually respects battery chemistry and safety.
 
I don't think this incident will damage Samsung nearly as much as some people on here think it will. For one, people have very short memories. Two, the Note made up a small % of Samsung's overall smartphone sales. Three, there's no such thing as bad publicity. Four, there are very few, legitimate high end alternative Android handsets... some have claimed the Pixel will benefit because it's high end, but the only thing that's high end is the price; it's an overpriced, rebranded Nexus. Lastly, it's all too easy to influence the media and buy good PR... the Note 7 was hailed as a leap in innovation and design by many in the media. But it's really just an incremental upgrade with the the same design these same people said provided no benefit and was not worth paying extra for the previous year; so imagine what they'll say about the Note 8.
 
I'd say the majority of Apple fans around here would be happy if Apple had no serious competition even if it slowed innovation way down. It's more about corporate wealth then innovation for many around here.
Uh what? I like Apple because they keep making products that work the way I want them to, most of the time (the Mac is a great Unix workstation from a single vendor - thus no finger pointing and complete hardware support - that has a great GUI and support from major developers, and the iPhone is a smartphone that integrates well with said workstation). Not because they (Apple the company collectively, or the management at Apple) are wealthy. What... do you really think there's a bunch of people around here going, "ooh, that Apple, they're so rich, that makes me so hot"? I think maybe you're assigning motivations to others that fit into some rather twisted mental picture that you have, rather than trying to understand what their motivations really are (like mine, stated at the start of this paragraph).
 
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I've no problem with Android. I've a problem with Samsung. It's clear they didn't act appropriate here and I no longer trust what they say or what they make. Internal docs leaked early on showing they cut corners to rush this to market to beat iPhone 7 to store shelves ignoring safety concerns. And when the issue blew up as it were they even then never acted. Very dodgy behaviour from a CE maker. Deplorable and unforgivable.

Oh, I was talking to the people who bash Android just because it's not Apple.

But I 100% agree with you. I didn't know about the leaked documents but if that is the case, it was foolish and careless on their part. I get trying to beat the iPhone 7, but cutting corners is a big no no. And that to me is disappointing.
 
The scandal is that Samsung wasn't forced to prove its replacements didn't have the same problem. In most recalls, the fix needs approval. It's not just "trust us this time."

There's no way Samsung had time to test the replacement thoroughly. It was just a shady attempt to rush a "fix" to mitigate the damage while blaming a third party.
In reality, it's likely a flaw in the power control circuitry and not the battery, a problem intrinsic to the phone itself that would take months to fix.
 
The best advice is to stick the thing in the freezer.
Don't put any explosive fire into a sealed container unless you don't want to keep it (the freezer), or like grenade action. Put it outside away from flammable objects, like in the middle of a driveway. A phone battery is tiny, it'll burn out quickly if you don't give it more to burn.
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FAUXING Samsung going to RUIN it for all of us.

Just wait until one of the stupid azz Note 7s burns on a plane, and then everyone will be REQUIRED to put cell phones in that 4oz liquid bag shizz.
So, a plastic bag will save an airplane from an explosion? That's your hypothesis?
 
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The scandal is that Samsung wasn't forced to prove its replacements didn't have the same problem. In most recalls, the fix needs approval. It's not just "trust us this time."
Indeed. They initially sidestepped the requirement that they work with the appropriate government agencies on the recall (both announcement and implementation); working with them would have involved things like getting the fixes approved, fully divulging what they know of the problem, etc. At best, they were inept, at worst, they were more interested in trying to contain the damage to the reputation and bottom-line than trying to contain the damage to their customers.
 
It's unfortunate. When it works I'm sure it's at least half as great as it is gigantic. I think at this point Samsung should just **** can the Note 7, start over again and never release another device named "Note" again.
 
Was the lead story on the BBC news over here in the U.K., they even interviewed one of the guys from Android Central about it, amongst others. First time I also heard an element of criticism of Samsung come into the coverage as well.

Lead story on their website at the moment as well.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37614770
 
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Bad bad bad for Samsung, but I'm glad. Figure out the problem and fix it so no one else gets hurt or even killed.

From a brand perspective, I think should just give everyone a free S7 and cann the entire Note 7. Cut their losses and move on to developing a safe Note 8.

I would also hope this thread doesn't turn this into an Apple vs Samsung/Android debate. People have their preference.
Yeah. My preference is not to get burned.
 
Or please... hurry up with the folding phablets!

I have seen some Samsung adds showing it years ago. I don't get this, most companies are secretive about stuff they are working on. I know it will eventually happen but why advertise something that will take years for it to become reality!!
 
Indeed. They initially sidestepped the requirement that they work with the appropriate government agencies on the recall (both announcement and implementation); working with them would have involved things like getting the fixes approved, fully divulging what they know of the problem, etc. At best, they were inept, at worst, they were more interested in trying to contain the damage to the reputation and bottom-line than trying to contain the damage to their customers.

Most likely you're right. If they went the official route and waited for approvals and things like that it's gonna take months. And the phone can't be sold for months, resuming only after fix is approved. Their profit will therefore take a big hit. By acting all caring and very fast in resolving by sidestepping the relevant authorities, they can start selling the Note 7 soon again.
 
Indeed. They initially sidestepped the requirement that they work with the appropriate government agencies on the recall (both announcement and implementation); working with them would have involved things like getting the fixes approved, fully divulging what they know of the problem, etc. At best, they were inept, at worst, they were more interested in trying to contain the damage to the reputation and bottom-line than trying to contain the damage to their customers.

Heads should roll because of that. Not just at Samsung either. The CPSC should be ashamed of themselves for not actually protecting consumers. It's a miracle that no one was seriously hurt, especially with the Note 7 fire aboard a plane about to depart.
 
Whilst this is bad of course, I cannot fault Samsung on the way they have handled this, from what the media say anyway.
As soon as this was becoming a more than single issue, Samsung started the recall of Phones to attempt to fix the problem with the battery.
However, from the media reports, what... Two or 3 of the, I'm guessing thousands of replacement have experienced fresh problems, so they are fully stopping shipments until the fault can be accurately fixed, and going to offer customers new replacement/different models.

I mean, whilst unfortunate, how much better a response could anyone ever want?

Apple would still be denying it, and there would have to be a class action lawsuit before they accepted any responsibility.

Irrespective of feelings towards Samsung, they have done exactly the right thing, in a very quick manner, and looked after customers far better than other companies would have done.
And I'm no Samsung fanboy.

It's just a dam shame, thanks to Steve Jobs (NOT) that other brands have followed Apple in the non replaceable battery concept, otherwise, this would be such a simple fix, take back off and remove battery.

Let's hope for everyone's sake they true cause of all these fires, and let's not forget it's still a tiny tiny percentage are found out and all companies can learn from it to make safer products for us all in the future.
 
We have a Samsung washing machine. Horrible machine, my wife curses it every time she uses it. The loads always go off balance, and the machine stops, takes hours to get one load done. Maybe it will blow up next and solve my problem.
Also have a Samsung refrigerator that is only 3 years old, and the seals on the door are falling apart. I will never buy another Samsung product.

In general Samsung is complete cheap crap. Remember the 80s though, with the old logo, they they were even worse. I say that because the TVs now are ok, I have a biggie and it's been great, there is some banding but it's not high end and would buy again. As for the phones, never understood why people bought them, so much plastic, look so tacky, oh and they are explosive :)
 
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