Oh man the snickering of Samsung at their product event before the iP7 was released is coming back at them...
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Samsung Halts Production of Note 7 After Replacement Phones Explode [Updated]
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Oh man the snickering of Samsung at their product event before the iP7 was released is coming back at them...
Deflection won't help you.
The ability for batteries to catch fire is not disputed.
What is of concern is the rate at which Samsung has flaming fireballs.
Its not iPhone on trial here, as much as you want that to be the case.
Today, it Samsung on the hot seat.
I'd say you are misinterpreting this.
Samsung has again shown themselves as being absolutely classless by creating adverts making fun of Apple's customers. I think it may be a cultural thing; to me these adverts are totally off-putting and I would stop me from buying a Samsung product, but their Korean masters probably see this differently.
Apple has class. When something like this happens, you don't want to be caught gloating. It just makes you look bad yourself. Obviously someone at Apple has bought some of these phones by now and figured out the reason for the fires and added something to whatever checklist Apple has for its components.
Was that a cpsc recall? Or just an Apple exchange program?And, as we know, that ruined the Macbook Pro product line forever just as people predict this is the death knell for the Note/Samsung line!
You call it deflection, I call it putting the "crisis" into perspective.
Here is a great article describing the Note 7 battery issue and why it happens. It states that 0.01 percent of all Note 7's are susceptible.
Doesn't matter how many notes or iPhones or anything else at this point. Note 7 Worldwide recall, ban on aircraft, enough evidence that Samsung is halting production and this will cost them 5 billion dollars. Yep iPhones catch fire and every time I get In my car I take a risk. But those are all deflections. So yeah you can put it in perspective but that is where it's at.
As a long-time iPhone user (7 years), I am really saddened by this news. Competition is what pushes industry innovation, and it's sad to see a major competitor's product fail on such an epic scale. Hopefully Samsung gets their act together and we return to a healthy competitive balance soon.
On the flip side, maybe Samsung's fail is the making of Google's Pixel? One can hope.
On the flip side, maybe Samsung's fail is the making of Google's Pixel? One can hope.
There has been this report that the battery in the Note 7 sits in a compartment that is too tight and when it expands while getting warm during use, it is put under too much strain. Also, the battery manufacturer might also be called Samsung. But the most relevant part is that the Note 7 is the outlier, there must be something specific to the Note 7 design, the Note 7 battery design or the manufacturing of this particular battery design.
You don't prevent or solve such problems by hope. You prevent them by getting to the bottom of it and then apply everything you have learned to all products going forward.
What I read was that one supplier made batteries that were a fraction larger than spec'ed, and when you put them into a case that is too small, they will catch fire. If that's the case then there is no "safer technology" to be implemented, just don't use batteries that are too big for the case. With the second round of exploding batteries, I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung had a million batteries marked for destruction, and someone thought they could make some extra cash into their own pocket by using these batteries instead of new ones.
Put this in perspective... I will give you a bomb for free ..... it only explodes to 0.001% of the people I give it to... would you take a chance? Now add the fact that you are not recieving it for free but you are actually paying for it :S
Making low % (especially without knowing how much that % refers to) does not help you when that small % is you!!!
So would you buy this bomb from me? Hey i only sold 10 million of it.....only 100 will explode cmon!!!
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and if you and your wife (if you have one) both get one of the lucky 100...guess what ?? you have 100% of risk....not bad of for a 0.001% chance!!
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What ever floats your boat and gets you through the day.
Bottom line, Samsung made a F'd phone, they screwed the first recall, they have a F'd up public image, "some carriers" have lost faith in the phone, the public has lost faith in the phone and now it appears they faulty replacements.
In their rush to beat the iPhone 7 (whatever happened to the Note 6?
) it appears they rushed out the Note 7 and now its a flaming success. At the end of the day, history will write Samsung F'd up.
I agree to an extent. However, sports teams represent a city you are from, a state you are from, or a school you went to. There is a much closer affinity in that respect.
Championing and "taking pride" in a cell phone is no different than championing or "taking pride" in the maker of the office chair I'm sitting in right now, or the maker of the bowl I put my yogurt in this morning.
Championing and "taking pride" in a cell phone is no different than championing or "taking pride" in the maker of the office chair I'm sitting in right now, or the maker of the bowl I put my yogurt in this morning.
Agents have been dispatched to your home. Please put your affairs in order now. Questioning the IVE will NOT be tolerated!!
So, that article is almost a month old - dealing with the original recall. Obviously any metrics that they quoted are suspect as the replacement devices are proving just as volatile.
They don't have a handle on the problem - yet - so stating that they understand the full scope...
Oh, really? Did you love how Phil Schiller made a BS 'bait and switch' lie on Keynote about the lack of headphone jack with his ridiculous 'courage' statement? Or how Cook made an a$$ out of himself doing the car karaoke in the video prior to the show? He looked like an UTTER IDIOT for doing that. I don't care if this is their attempt to have fun but this is NOT how you open up a keynote. Seriously. If I were a CEO, I wouldn't do it.
How they behave on stage in keynotes and interviews is nothing but a BS public relations smoke screen to deflect what's really happening behind the scenes in their corporate offices.
In fact, I'm not at all impressed by any of those executive fools.
How's your new iMac doing? Oh wait. They haven't refreshed it.
How's the Apple Watch doing? Oh wait. It just got banned in the UK for security reasons just recently. Google it.
How's the Car? Going nowhere and more likely to be an experimental race car to rep the company ( my theory ).
There's a reason why Apple under the late Steve Jobs was successful and it's due to his laser-like vision, focus, and drive. There's NONE of that under today's leadership in Apple.
Steve was THE hammer that Tim isn't.
So my point being, don't EVER underestimate the competition. That's how the Golden State Warriors got destroyed with their eroded arrogance by the Cleveland Cavaliers, my homies.
I've read somewhere(sorry I'll never be able to find it) recently, that Samsung takes a different approach to the battery controller than most. That is why it isn't as easy as popping off the back, and replacing the battery. The entire IC is likely faulty, and that is why there is no easy fix. A couple million ICs have to be manufactured, and replaced in all Note 7s.
Christ. Calm down mate.
It's only a statistic - until you are the one that gets your azzz kicked by it.
