Samsung Introduces 12.2" Galaxy Tablets Ahead of Rumored iPad Pro Introduction

[Menneisyys2]

And that's why Apple is doomed... clearly.

I didn't state Apple is doomed. I just stated Apple should incorporate windowed MT and Wacom support to please more advanced users. I personally would like both and am seriously considering the Surface 2 Pro because of these.

This is why, BTW, I miss Quasar so much on my iPads. It was just GREAT during the iOS5 days to have full windowing on the iPad 3.

 

[Nale72]

And that's why Apple is doomed... clearly.

But Samsung is?

 

[Nevaborn]

Had been looking forward to the Samsung event to see what their PRO tablets could offer, however they were disappointing.

The outward design is to large and cumbersome, it looks too heavy and just not a sleek or attractive design when put next to a smaller iPAD Air. Then you get to the UI and it is a mess. they have literally thought we have more space so lets fill it. This has given a homepage that is cluttered, which attacks the senses. It feels more Windows than Android with all the different sized live tiles.

All Samsung has done is show a very non Professional product and show their hand to Apple. if Apple can just get a micro usb and possibly more accurate pen integration then all is sorted.

 

[jonnysods]

Preemptive damage control.

I don't think anyone doubts that Samsung would almost definitely have not released this, were it not for the iPad Pro rumors.

You make it seem like they read this a few weeks ago on macrumors then made one a couple of weeks ago. These take a while to put into production do they not?

 

[Syk]

Why is it pathetic? Did Samsung just design and begin manufacturing these tablets since the Apple rumor surfaced a few days ago? Is that what people really think?

I guess Samsung has come up with some Star Trek replication/creation device. Oh Apple is doing what?!?! Fire up the magical production machines men.

The funny thing is... Samsung is not the first to create a tablet larger than 10".

 

[pan88]

Sizes and devices

Not trying to tell Apple what they should do, but here's what comes to mind:

- Streamline MBA and MB range to into one single as-thin-as-possible "MBX" base with various configs.

- Use one 12-whatever-inch (retina -) monitor for a new "iPadX"; reduce rim to the max for smallest footprint possible.

- "iPad X" can be used as an IOS stand-alone or be hooked onto the "MBX" OSX base to become its normal monitor. (batteries of both enhancing overall capacity, and h/w optimised to be single for both, wherever possible; e.g. camera, USB-3, etc.)

- s/w optimised both ways to take advantage of the piggy-back combo, e.g. iWorks automatically backing up on both platforms; use of touch-screen functions by OSX, where it makes sense, etc.

(My-) Dream machine, for sure!

 

[Nale72]

Then you get to the UI and it is a mess. they have literally thought we have more space so lets fill it. This has given a homepage that is cluttered, which attacks the senses. It feels more Windows than Android with all the different sized live tiles.

Unlike the iOS pages that must be cluttered with icons? They show what you CAN do, not what it MUST look like. You can make it look like you want, change fonts, change colours, change keyboards change dialers etc. But you don't have to, you can keep them stock and they will work also. You can have widgets in different sizes or you can choose not to use widgets. You can clutter your pages with icons or you can choose not to.

Even though my iPhone and iPad works like a charm, I sure miss the customization possibility you get with Android and I miss widgets. They are not deal breakers, but it would be nice to have.

 

[69Mustang]

samsung is just so blatantly disrespectful

Could you tell me how introducing a larger tablet is disrespectful? They have tablets of multiple sizes and this particular tablet has been planned for a long time.

 

[silentbob007]

You make it seem like they read this a few weeks ago on macrumors then made one a couple of weeks ago. These take a while to put into production do they not?

Only Apple takes time at R&D, holding things in the pipeline for years. The very first iPad Pro was started before iPad 1 hit the market. Samsung just has one machine they retool to create things they see on MacRumors because they obviously cannot have their own product lines and evolutions of those lines.

 

[Nale72]

samsung is just so blatantly disrespectful

Because Apple thought of a larger tablet first?

Some examples:

Date First Available January 28, 2013
http://www.amazon.com/Archos-Family...=1389105442&sr=8-8&keywords=android+tablet+12

Date First Available March 8, 2013:
http://www.amazon.com/Kocaso-M1400-...=1389105442&sr=8-2&keywords=android+tablet+12

Date First Available September 18, 2013:
http://www.amazon.com/HANNSPREE-13-...B00FA9ACIG/ref=psdc3_t2_B00BQO9M1M_B00FA9ACIG

 

[samcraig]

This thread is funny.

How long has the bigger iPad rumor been out?

How long do you think it takes to put a larger Samsung tablet into production and get it released?

How many think that all tablet manufacturers don't play with various screen sizes.

If fact, Apple might experiment with many - but they release VERY few. Samsung, however, has historically produced various size tablets.

But yes - of course - they are copying Apple's "rumor"

 

[Ursadorable]

The first mention of an iPad Pro I've seen was from MacRumors on November 19, 2013. I doubt Samsung could have made their own in about a month and produced it in numbers.

You haven't been paying attention then. There's been rumors flying around about the larger iPad since early summer. And really, it's not THAT hard to come up with one ready for market, the guts are probably that of the 10.1 with a larger screen and battery with a pre-release version of software they've been working on for a while.

 

[wovel]

Wish I could say the same. Our Samsung TV is about 3 years old now and while it's a decent TV it executes random commands as if the remote was sending signals (it's not, have had several universal ones over the years, same behaviour), which means the TV ends up being on in the middle of the night or while we watch a popup "command cannot be executed now" blends in... pretty annoying.

Either way, 12.2 inch is pretty big..., but I can see business cases where size does matter.

I suspect you will need to watch poltergeist and have a chat with your neighbors...

 

[samcraig]

You haven't been paying attention then. There's been rumors flying around about the larger iPad since early summer. And really, it's not THAT hard to come up with one ready for market, the guts are probably that of the 10.1 with a larger screen and battery with a pre-release version of software they've been working on for a while.

And you haven't been paying attention to what Samsung and other manufacturers have been doing for a few years. Various sizes of devices. Where Apple has had - what - two?

 

[wovel]

OK, provided that we can agree that if the iPad Pro turns out to feature split-screen multi-tasking and a proper 'Wacom style' inductive, pressure-sensitive stylus - just like the existing Galaxy Note phablets and tablets - that the same is true of Apple.

(And if any iPad Pro doesn't come with a decent stylus and a 'pro' version of iOS then forget it).

Ditto if the rumors of a large-screen iPhone turn out to be true.

Then of course there's the new notification and control bars in iOS 7 which Samsung (not sure if they were a generic Android feature) users may find oddly familiar…

Not that I'm suggesting that the earlier Galaxy phones and tablets - and Android's sudden transformation from keyboard/trackball to touch - didn't borrow from the iPhone - but that's how technology evolves in anything vaguely approximating a free market.

As for the big tablets - (be they Samsung or Apple) - I think that there's a niche for graphics work (hence the need for a decent stylus) and I'm actually working with a project using stylus technology for doing school math on tablets (for which the new Samsung might be perfect - but its still a niche).

However, the sticking point is the need for a keyboard for serious office/productivity work. 12" is still a bit small to fit a decent on-screen keyboard without wasting most of the screen (although I'm glad to see that the new Samsung has a 16:10 screen - using the 16:9 Note 10.1 in landscape mode with an on-screen keyboard is a joke). IMHO as soon as you couple a tablet with a physical keyboard, the tablet ergonomics go out the window and you're better off with a laptop + mouse.

So really, with a 12" tablet, don't think of it as a tablet, more as a cheaper way to get that Wacom Cintiq (http://uk.shop.wacom.eu/products/ci...Shopping-Ads&gclid=COvF0fye7LsCFYkBwwodCGIAMw) you've been drooling over...

Well Apple stole the notification center long before iOS7 and it was in Android as whole, of course before that it was in an iOS JailBreak app and APple hired the developer. Go Figure. Before that there was a pretty similar system in WebOS. So yeah. I think that horse has been dead for a while.

Certainly a good try though.

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This thread is funny.

How long has the bigger iPad rumor been out?

How long do you think it takes to put a larger Samsung tablet into production and get it released?

How many think that all tablet manufacturers don't play with various screen sizes.

If fact, Apple might experiment with many - but they release VERY few. Samsung, however, has historically produced various size tablets.

But yes - of course - they are copying Apple's "rumor"

Samsung released the Gear Watch to try and beat Apple to market, it is reasonable to assume they are going to try and do that here too. Who knows for sure. There have been bigger iPad rumors for at least the past several months. I seem to recall some as early as December 2012, but can't find them at the moment.

 

[samcraig]

Samsung released the Gear Watch to try and beat Apple to market, it is reasonable to assume they are going to try and do that here too. Who knows for sure. There have been bigger iPad rumors for at least the past several months. I seem to recall some as early as December 2012, but can't find them at the moment.

Says you. And some other people. That's just as much a rumor or opinion as anything else. It's not fact.

All phone and tablet manufacturers have probably made various prototypes of various sizes. Any assertion otherwise or implying one is copying the other is ludicrous. It's a tablet size.

No one seems to get their panties in a bunch when various TV manufacturers product new TVs of different sizes. Or add internet capabilities. Or 3D. No one is ranting about copycats.

Absurd thread.

 

[hajime]

I want an iPad Air that has a built in Watcom tablet and support for something like a S-pen. Better if it supports Mac OS/X. Too bad there is no 8" version of Galaxy Note Pro.

 

[chibamac]

Samsung tries to do it quick, Apple tries to do it right.

I'm hoping for a 27 inch machine. It should have it's own stand and instead of pen / touch screen, it should have mouse / Keyboard support. That would be awesome!

 

[roasted]

LOL. This forum gets so wound up over the stupidest things. So what if xyz manufacturer did something before or after anyone else.

 

[melendezest]

A lager Apple iPad design with Android's customization options and access to the App Store would be ideal for me. Musicians would LOVE the larger canvas and multiple windows.

Alas, such a machine will never exist.

Perhaps Google will put out a Nexus tablet I'd want? Their Nexus 5 phone is nice; I wouldn't mind something like that in a lager form factor with Apple's 4:3 aspect ratio. The 16:9 they use just doesn't cut it for me.

Google's current tablets, however, are no match for the iPad Air. Yet.

 

[jazz1]

Lots of negative comments here and criticisms. While Samsung is guilty of copying Apple in the beginning, they are beginning to diverge and create products ahead of Apple. The 4-app ability to multitask is actually amazing, and the one-app-at-a-time approach of the current iOS will feel dated and too limiting once multiple apps at once become the norm. Windows has it. Samsung has it. I'm sorry, but this is leaving iOS is the dust in that one area. I'd love to be able to interact with a website while in a FaceTime video call at the same time (and still see the other person).

On smaller screens 4-apps might be unworkable, but I definitely see this could be something I'd want on a bigger screen iPad. Even being able to check messages or mail while surfing would be a plus. Maybe there is a downside here like battery life?

 

[Northgrove]

Haha, I love the Samsung strategy. I think they took Steve Jobs' quote "skate where the puck is going to be" a wee bit too literally.

What's most hilarious is if they don't have anything solid to go by and they have to guess too much to be comfortable with it, like with the Samsung Galaxy Gear, it fails miserably.

 

[ElTorro]

OK so if you release a product after apple, you're a copy cat, but if you release it before Apple, it's "preemptive damage control"?

LOL @ Apple zealots.

Exactly what I was thinking. I only come here to read these childish comments and laugh.

 

[Nabooly]

I seriously cannot believe the first page comments. There's been rumors of a larger Samsung tablet for months now. I'm pretty sure Apple had nothing to do with that. Why is it necessary to bash Samsung for everything? I don't get it.

 

[Northgrove]

This thread is funny.

How long has the bigger iPad rumor been out?

How long do you think it takes to put a larger Samsung tablet into production and get it released?

How many think that all tablet manufacturers don't play with various screen sizes.

If fact, Apple might experiment with many - but they release VERY few. Samsung, however, has historically produced various size tablets.

But yes - of course - they are copying Apple's "rumor"

I think Samsung might have their sources. Would you say Samsung accidentally released the smart watch in the midst of iWatch rumors too? There are more examples too and they add upp.

Anyway, I think it's as simple as both these companies are listening to trends and murmurs in the technology field, and that Samsung are ready to cut more corners to get there first.