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Just seen the Samsung can also multitask four apps and have them on screen at once! This is great as it means you can get on with some real computing work. I've tried app switching whilst working on an iPad and it obviously is heavy going because it's not mean to be used in that way. I really hope the Apple Maxi Pad can do this.

If this tablet is like my Galaxy S4, only certain apps. can do this. It's not useful if it can't be any application you choose. For example, I could run two web browsers (not needed), but I could not run phone and email, or calendar and email, at the same time (needed to know conference call codes).
 
I think Samsung might have their sources. Would you say Samsung accidentally released the smart watch in the midst of iWatch rumors too? There are more examples too and they add upp.

Anyway, I think it's as simple as both these companies are listening to trends and murmurs in the technology field, and that Samsung are ready to cut more corners to get there first.

Smart watches are nothing new.

People see what they want to see. And naturally, here, they see everyone copying Apple. That's what is really no surprise.
 
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Because pre-copying the rumored iWatch worked so well for Samsung the first time. :cool:

Hey everyone, lets start a rumor about a coming Apple iToilet and see if Samsung introduces its new Galaxy S-hit.
 
I have my doubts

At the end of the day, I see tablets as (largely) content consumption devices whereas laptops skew towards content creation devices. Why? It's all about the keyboard. By having a separate keyboard it gives more visual space . Sure you have an on-screen keyboard on a tablet, but when you can only see a paragraph or two of readable text, who's going to use it to replace writing a school paper or as a replacement for spreadsheeting?

Actually, the solution is really quite simple. To make a larger tablet a viable alternative for content creation I think you have to follow the path of Microsoft and provide a keyboard cover but with a better typing experience.
 
Funny thing is that people really believe that this on response to a rumor.

Perhaps they can explain all the other tablet sizes that Samsung and other companies have been making for a lot of time.

Too much inside our bubble
 
Because pre-copying the rumored iWatch worked so well for Samsung the first time. :cool:

How the hell does someone pre-copy someone?

Michael73 said:
Actually, the solution is really quite simple. To make a larger tablet a viable alternative for content creation I think you have to follow the path of Microsoft and provide a keyboard cover but with a better typing experience.

There's already a good selection of bluetooth keyboards for the iPad. When paired together, they make for a surprisingly decent little document machine.
 
This is hilarious to me.. Whatever rumor apple puts out Samsung will copy.. They need to say we're going to make a 9inch iPhone and no more iPads. Samsung will gladly follow! What idiots over there. No innovation, no ideas, no vision, lots of junk phones and spam gadgets.
 
"First" does not always means "better".

And yet folks constant poop on Apple for having that philosophy.

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Int. Samsung HQ: "Hey boss, there's rumours that Apple are gonna make a 12" 'iPad Pro' this year"..."Well, then, we'll do it first. We'll call it...ummmmm...Galaxy Tab 12.2. You guys can have that released in like a week, right? Ignore basic functionality and effort."

Those rumors started like a year ago, if not earlier (an iPad pro has been rumored since day one). Which is why Samsung has their prototypes done now.

No one can have something to let reviewers play with ready in a couple of weeks. Couple of months maybe. The six months last years rumors gave them, sure.

What I find odd is that they didn't take a page from Apple and have spec parity with the highly promoted SPen
 
This is hilarious to me.. Whatever rumor apple puts out Samsung will copy.. They need to say we're going to make a 9inch iPhone and no more iPads. Samsung will gladly follow! What idiots over there. No innovation, no ideas, no vision, lots of junk phones and spam gadgets.

I guess Samsung copied Apple by making large screen phones? They copied Apple by making a smaller screen tablet? They copied Apple by introducing multi-tasking? They copied Apple by introducing a curved screen phone? Apple hasn't done some of these things yet, nor do they sell a watch.
 
I just can't wait until all the other parents at my kids' orchestra recital are holding up those things in front of me to videotape their little Timmy's performance. </s>

Schools need to step up and ban parental recording in favor of doing it for them. My nieces dance school did this, to the point of threatening to kick out parents that break the rule and most certainly kicking the kids out of the program.

No parent is going to risk their daughters wrath is the theory.

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If they release a "Pro" version of the iPad, I wish they would include a stylus with Wacom like response and detail. I tried to use a Stylus on my iPad Air and it was pretty much useless for note-taking anything longer than a few words.

The issue with note taking is more of the line not pressure. And that is an issue they should address period. Not in a pro model but all models. And that is more Apple's style with the devices. They could have made a Pro ages ago, day one pretty much. They haven't and sales haven't really suffered for it. Nor have the other boys really own scads of sales for their business oriented tablets. Sure they get some, but it's not the big deal that comes up when Apple gets another contract. Blogs etc love to harp on this because businesses and schools are going for a tablet that wasn't designed for them over ones that say at least that they are. Ouch.

And keep in mind that no one has made a portable Cintiq, likely because Wacom wouldn't let them. If anyone is going to create that kind of tablet Wacom would want to do it themselves so they would restrict other licensees.
 
You haven't been paying attention then. There's been rumors flying around about the larger iPad since early summer. And really, it's not THAT hard to come up with one ready for market, the guts are probably that of the 10.1 with a larger screen and battery with a pre-release version of software they've been working on for a while.

And you haven't been paying attention to what Samsung and other manufacturers have been doing for a few years. Various sizes of devices. Where Apple has had - what - two?

No Sam, Ursadorable is correct. Samsung's tablet is a reaction to the imagined iPad Pro. The fact that their tablet was rumored to be 13.3" in February is not relevant. The fact that the product was darn near leaked in June is not relevant either. To cover our bases, you must remember: Samsung either copies Apple, or reacts to Apple rumors by releasing products prematurely. You have to ignore they have a history of releasing multiple iterations of products because that history is counter to the narrative we are trying to promote. More importantly, you absolutely must ignore a cursory Google search would have squashed this pretty early on in this thread.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...rtedly-readying-12.2-inch-galaxy-note-tablet/
 
No Sam, Ursadorable is correct. Samsung's tablet is a reaction to the imagined iPad Pro. The fact that their tablet was rumored to be 13.3" in February is not relevant. The fact that the product was darn near leaked in June is not relevant either. To cover our bases, you must remember: Samsung either copies Apple, or reacts to Apple rumors by releasing products prematurely. You have to ignore they have a history of releasing multiple iterations of products because that history is counter to the narrative we are trying to promote. More importantly, you absolutely must ignore a cursory Google search would have squashed this pretty early on in this thread.

You got any proof to back up your statement that isn't circumstantial? Yeah, it's possible they aped Apple before Apple had anything to ape, but considering Samsung's love of experimenting with multiple screen sizes, it could equally be them just trying something new out.
 
How the hell does someone pre-copy someone?
Easy:
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No Sam, Ursadorable is correct. Samsung's tablet is a reaction to the imagined iPad Pro. The fact that their tablet was rumored to be 13.3" in February is not relevant. The fact that the product was darn near leaked in June is not relevant either. To cover our bases, you must remember: Samsung either copies Apple, or reacts to Apple rumors by releasing products prematurely. You have to ignore they have a history of releasing multiple iterations of products because that history is counter to the narrative we are trying to promote. More importantly, you absolutely must ignore a cursory Google search would have squashed this pretty early on in this thread.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...rtedly-readying-12.2-inch-galaxy-note-tablet/

Oh - you're so right - what was I thinking?

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You got any proof to back up your statement that isn't circumstantial? Yeah, it's possible they aped Apple before Apple had anything to ape, but considering Samsung's love of experimenting with multiple screen sizes, it could equally be them just trying something new out.

I was thinking he was being sarcastic. I hope he was.
 
OK so if you release a product after apple, you're a copy cat, but if you release it before Apple, it's "preemptive damage control"?

LOL @ Apple zealots.

When you 'release' it by having a prototype at a major trade show but no real data about battery life, pricing,release date. Yes it is preemptive damage control and little else at this point.

When the real release of an actual device happens we'll see if they have something that was worry of the way in advance hype. Or if this was just a repeated of 'beating' the original iPad to market

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Q1 launch? That's interesting. I hope that means we'll see the iPad Pro in March rather than having to wait until Oct for it.

Q1 typically means fiscal calendar and that is Oct-Sept.
 
What good does it do anyone if Samsung releases a dud? Why not wait a little longer and get the product right on the first version?

Samsung released a terrible product in the Galaxy Gear. The proof is that the return rate is rumored to be 30%. I can think of a whole host of problems with the Gear. For starters, it doesn't look great on one's wrist. Secondly, the Gear requires a Galaxy phone in order to use the majority of its functionality. It's almost marketed as a phone accessory. Also, the battery life is one day. How did Samsung keep a straight face when they mentioned that?

Sure, this is a starter product. But that's not an excuse for releasing a product with obvious issues. If Samsung releases a better version and a better version on top of that, they don't deserve any credit for "being aggressive."

The criticism of Samsung is that it seems like they are reacting to rumors about Apple's product releases. For example, smartwatches weren't on anyone's radar before we heard about the iWatch. All of a sudden, a rumor surfaces that Apple is working a smartwatch and lo and behold, smartwatches become the new craze. We hear about Microsoft, Google, and everybody else working on smartwatch. Again with the so-called iPad Pro, the same thing seems to happen. We've been hearing for a while about how everyone wants a smaller tablet, about how 7-inch was the craze. Apple releases the iPad Mini. Then, we now hear about Apple working on a 12-inch iPad and suddenly, we hear about Samsung putting out a 12-inch tablet.

Maybe Samsung was working on these products beforehand, but it seems really fishy that the buzz about Samsung working on these products seems to pick up following a rumor about Apple working on a similar product.

The only reason why the first Samsung smart watch was a dud was because of the price and compatibility with only one device out the gate. The product is usable and Samsung has been updating features and compatibility with other Samsung devices. I personally don’t want it unless the price is $100 or below for use with my Note 3. It will take about 2 revisions for their watch to hit that price point. The other issue is that it’s only compatible with Samsung devices. But if/when Apple releases their version of a smart watch I doubt it would work with Android devices so you really can’t knock points off unless you do the same for Apple. And if Apple prices the watch at $300 it would be a dud as well. Price is everything.
I believe that companies such as Google and pebble can make a cross platform wearable at an affordable price. Apple will not go cross platform and they will not allow a Samsung to release apps for this compatibility.
 
And you haven't been paying attention to what Samsung and other manufacturers have been doing for a few years. Various sizes of devices. Where Apple has had - what - two?

Yep. As it's only been two for the last year and a smidge.

And yet look at the numbers of sales (only half at most were channel not end user) and contracts those two sizes have gotten. Compared to the 'channel sales' Samsung etc give out and then basically hide end user numbers, the big press deals that android tablets, particularly Samsung tablets, have gotten. What about that $850 million in Surface Gen 1 sales that offset the $900 million in write offs from lack of sales.

Apparently Apple's lack of a Pro size etc hasn't been that big of a deal so far
 
The only reason why the first Samsung smart watch was a dud was because of the price and compatibility with only one device out the gate.

That's one reason. The other, and this is my totally subjective opinion, is that smartwatches just aren't all that appealing. By the mere fact of size, they have to be supplementary devices, meant to be paired with something larger and more capable. There's just not much you can do with one standalone.

Now I'm sure they have their market, but even the much ballyhooed iWatch, which may or may not change everything forever, and force us to redefine our current concept of reality, won't be the second coming of the smartphone.
 
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