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Samsung Profits Tumble as Apple Enters Large-Screen Phone Market and Low-End Options Thrive
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That doesn't make sense to me. If the Galaxy S III was that good and superior to the iPhone 5, wouldn't the users of that phone be happy and buy Galaxy S5 with Samsung when the contract is up this year, and attract a lot of switchers from those who have been using the inferior iPhone 5?
That's fine, but some of us like to keep our phones with us at all times or use them in challenging conditions. We need something tough and durable for those times when it's impractical to treat a phone like a delicate teacup. For example I often take my iPhone along when I walk my dog, and sometimes she needs to be on a leash. Instead of holding the phone in one hand and the leash in another, it's nice to slip the phone in a pocket. So I'm walking my dog, iPhone in pants pocket, and my shoe lace gets untied. Horror! I must squat over to tie the shoe while simultaneously holding the leash, all with my dog trying to lick my face. Is the iPhone rigid enough to handle such extreme treatment?
Most of us would be pissed if we bought a dining table and then had to buy an extra frame to go under it for support, and yet still had to be careful not to set a thanksgiving roast on it for fear it would collapse. Most would react well if the salesman who sold the table said "but it's an expensive table, of course you have to treat it delicately!"
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I kind of preferred the old days of Apple, when it was computers only... and they only had a 3-6% market share... and people ridiculed us for buying computers from a company that couldn't possibly stay afloat.
Now they are a huge company.... and got to listen to all the hate for an entirely different set of reasons.
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yea sure. if you actually believe that may i interest you in some magic beans?
You are correct. All of the Samsung Galaxy 5 purchasers are on this thread.
It's not only Apple users.I'm amused at the rage of the Apple users in this thread. Kool aid, cults, sheep, It's amusing how angry they are
Take a look at the comments here:Samsung warns of steep decline in profits in Q3 F2014 guidance
It would appear Samsung has some Android fanboy detractors also.
Heres a little gem:
"it's because Samsung Touchwizzy phones are finally being discovered for what they are. An over priced bad performing product as compared to other much less expensive phones. And sales and profits will continue to plummet There is no other herd of sheep like the Samsung fan-boys!"
That's from an android user.
The rage is everywhere, and people are rejoicing both on Apple and Android side.
Anyone who is following (tech)news shouldn't be surprised.
Samsung is in a downward spiral for several reasons:
Firstly, they have hardly brand loyalty. Their phones were marketed heavily and on paper offer great specs. Unfortunately the specs doesn't translate into a good user experience. Most of my colleagues I know having or having had a Samsung phone will state the same thing, what I have experienced. Initially ok, not brilliant, slightly lag here and there but after a while *really* sluggish and laggy. On paper blistering (and at times falsified) benchmarks but then comes a cheap Motorola G along and opens apps quicker and has a faster, more fluid UI a than a flagship Samsung device.
If in Android Land a new device comes out, people can easily more their Apps, contacts, etc to a new phone. It doesn't have to be the same brand, even if the manufacturers are trying desperately to lure the customers into their respective Eco-system with (bloatware) software (for contacts, etc) which are redundant to apps in Android. But most of the time these apps are rubbish anyway and nobody is using them So if the next big non-Samsung thing comes along, people will leave Samsung in a heartbeat.
Their devices are plain, uninspiring design wise bottom line ugly. Looking at a Samsung phone won't create a 'I must have that because of its great design-feeling'
Over the last 1-2 years they had increasingly strong competition. Last year the LG G2 wiped the floor with the Galaxy S4 as an overall package and price. This year the G3 is fighting Samsung with their own weapons, marketing on meaningless high specs (for example useless ultra high definition screen) and seem to be successful. HTC seems to be doing better this year, Sony has a good phones, too. But most of all, in emerging markets like China, Samsung is on lost ground. There are Chinese brands which over much cheaper, nicer and better build phones than Samsung.
And of course, since Apple has bigger phones now, it will be the final nail into Samsung's coffin. They won't go away, of course, they are as a company too big, but they will just be another average manufacturer.
Samsung is in a downward spiral for several reasons:
Firstly, they have hardly brand loyalty. Their phones were marketed heavily and on paper offer great specs. Unfortunately the specs doesn't translate into a good user experience. Most of my colleagues I know having or having had a Samsung phone will state the same thing, what I have experienced. Initially ok, not brilliant, slightly lag here and there but after a while *really* sluggish and laggy. On paper blistering (and at times falsified) benchmarks but then comes a cheap Motorola G along and opens apps quicker and has a faster, more fluid UI a than a flagship Samsung device.
If in Android Land a new device comes out, people can easily more their Apps, contacts, etc to a new phone. It doesn't have to be the same brand, even if the manufacturers are trying desperately to lure the customers into their respective Eco-system with (bloatware) software (for contacts, etc) which are redundant to apps in Android. But most of the time these apps are rubbish anyway and nobody is using them
So if the next big non-Samsung thing comes along, people will leave Samsung in a heartbeat.Their devices are plain, uninspiring design wise bottom line ugly. Looking at a Samsung phone won't create a 'I must have that because of its great design-feeling'
Over the last 1-2 years they had increasingly strong competition. Last year the LG G2 wiped the floor with the Galaxy S4 as an overall package and price. This year the G3 is fighting Samsung with their own weapons, marketing on meaningless high specs (for example useless ultra high definition screen) and seem to be successful. HTC seems to be doing better this year, Sony has a good phones, too. But most of all, in emerging markets like China, Samsung is on lost ground. There are Chinese brands which over much cheaper, nicer and better build phones than Samsung.
And of course, since Apple has bigger phones now, it will be the final nail into Samsung's coffin. They won't go away, of course, they are as a company too big, but they will just be another average manufacturer.
If this was true... then who's going to make the A8? Who is going to supply the good panels for all the iPads, iPhones and MacBooks?
C'mon guys... we all have a little Samsung in us. Hard to admit? Yes, I know.
Apple is looking to another company to supply its processors now TSMC according to Appleinsider?
Hopefully you're smart enough to buy a case for your phone.
when you reach down to tie your shoe you slip the phone in your back pocket,
unless you've got the 6+ or some other phablet then maybe you've got a hip holster. thats what i've got for my 6, and when I don't use the holster it's still slim enough to fit in most pockets, problem solved.
Yeah Samsung is Doomed! Just look at their wiki and it will shake you to your core just seeing how huge the company is in the world. Samsung is like a small country. HUGH!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung
Samsung comprises around 80 companies.[68] It is highly diversified, with activities in areas including construction, consumer electronics, financial services, shipbuilding, and medical services.[68]
In FY 2009, Samsung reported consolidated revenues of 220 trillion KRW ($172.5 billion). In FY 2010, Samsung reported consolidated revenues of 280 trillion KRW ($258 billion), and profits of 30 trillion KRW ($27.6 billion) (based upon a KRW-USD exchange rate of 1,084.5 KRW per USD, the spot rate as of 19 August 2011).[69] However, it should be noted that these amounts do not include the revenues from all of Samsung's subsidiaries based outside South Korea.[70]
A8 is made by TSMC, not Samsung. There have been rumors Samsung is another source but it hasn't been confirmed by evidence and having two sources for a processor contradicts the industry practice.
Samsung doesn't supply panels for iPhones, as in at all, because they don't even make LCD panels for phones. It's a myth that gets repeated every year. Samsung is indeed a good supplier for the iPads and retina Macbooks but they aren't the only supplier. There are at least 3-4 companies supplying LCD panels for various Apple products, not just Samsung.
Apple as a business will switch suppliers and buy from multiple parties to get the best pricing and sufficient supplies. Samsung is a great maker of components but Samsung isn't as irreplaceable as some make it out to be here.
Go take a look at the teardown https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+6+Teardown/29213 Not a single Samsung part. Hard to admit that the best selling Apple product may not have anything Samsung in it? I know.
They aren't doomed but despite their size, the mobile phone business is the single biggest profit generator for them by far.
Huh? I don't think people are disputing that Samsung is making good components like processors or panels.
I have the impression that the discussion here was revolving mostly around the fact that Samsung is losing ground on (their own) mobile phone sales.
Hopefully you're smart enough to realize that most cases are designed to provide shock protection, not structural rigidity. I'll put my 6+ in a case when it arrives but I'm under no illusions: it will still be prone to bending.
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Please pay some mechanical and material engineers to do you own counter expertise, or let it go; repeating crud 1000 times without any scientific proof doesn'T make it truer, but it does make you increasingly obnoxious. Unless annoyance is your goal... If so... You're right on track, congrats... (sic).
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Its PROFITS that are hit hard, their revenu were "only" down 20%. Though I suspect its mostly in the top end for them to have lost so much profits.
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Samsung is not the only supplier, it supplies only some parts, they don't supply the A8.
Funny enough, the reason Apple needs to buy some Samsung components is that they're kicking Samsung's mobile's ass. Ironic isn't it. If they had a lower volume, they'd probably not have to corner 25% of the world wide supply of memory and a smaller supplier than Samsung would do ;-).
samsung is getting there butt kicked in the electronics industry(TV, blu-ray ect.)
They do stuff like that regular. With no warning.
HI MODS NOTE TO YOU!
IF YOU DON”T TELL PEOPLE WHY YOU REMOVE THEIR POSTS THEY ARE DESTINED TO CARRY ON. Even a boiler plate …see section X of the rules rather than the crappy attitude you are displaying, honestly it’s worse than the posts you are removing.
I pointed out that people do not have the courage of their convictions. If you don’t like Samsung, don’t buy their products, that doesn’t just mean ones that you can see badged as Samsung either. It suits you to buy the iPhone even though it has Samsung parts. that’s how much it really bothers you.
Geez, I'm not on a good run...on my own personal #postgate he past few days!!
S3 admittedly was the best galaxy so far, I bought one for my wife, still using it. But superior to the iPhone 5 not even close to that.....
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The difference is Apple fix their problem.
Even out of warranty period (see iPhone 5).
Samsung lovers won't understand that. They just care about spec list and benchmark...
I hope 'spectrumfox' doesn't fly planes too much - they may bend like a soda can.... being made from aluminium..
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You can't bend it by keeping in your pocket and squat to tie your laces...
That's just fud spreaded by haters from YouTube, some of that bribed by competitors....
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Yep. Don't tell him even military aircrafts are mostly made by aluminum
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I'm not an analyst and I don't know about next quarter, but surely those results aren't yet influenced by strong iPhone 6 sales.
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Exactly.
I'm an Apple user since 1989 and I really don't care about market share.
Market share is for poor products.
I'll be perfectly fine with a 10% share in the mobile sector, keeping high standards for user experience. That's what Apple gave me for almost 25 years.
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That's true: it won't be a case to protect your iPhone, if you really have one, from bend damage. It will be user's brain.
Just avoid bending it and magically it won't bend
A little tip for you: cases won't protect it from shock damages either. Just avoid to drop it: it's safer
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The article spoke only about Samsung mobile division, so your post is a pointless defence of the beloved Samsung.
By the way, Samsung isn't the only source for Apple's devices components: in the current generations they are using displays from JDI and LG, CPU from TSMC and so on....
Samsung needs Apple much more than Apple needs Samsung...