lol android users asking 'why would I want to do that' when android literally is based on having every possible function under the sun regardless of it has any use at all
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Samsung Shares New 'Ingenius' Ads Pitting New Galaxy Note 9 Against iPhone X
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Wait a minute. Just HOW do you know that?
There is zero proof that the market for a stylus is anything like "small" or "niche", lots of evidence that it's larger than "small niche", and plenty of evidence of great growth potential, too.
Apple came out with an Apple Pencil in response to consumers' desire to have another input interface. Yes, for now it's only for a tablet, but that doesn't mean that we don't want such a thing for our smartphones too. And there are lots of other stylus and stylus-like input devices out there, for all manner of device types and platforms.
So I'll say it again: I'd like a stylus for the 6.5" iPhone X2 (or whatever it's called). I know it would be good for me and I think it could be a good thing for a lot of people, too. But let's make the device with internal storage. Storing my Apple Pencil is a real hassle.
Edit: I saw one of your later posts, where you said you think it will come to iPhones anyway. I don't know if it will, but I hope it does. In any event, I doubt Apple would add it if they thought it wouldn't be a selling point for people in a larger group.
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You raise a great point. I finally did a facetime with one of my friends who was in the UK. Was nice, although the calls kept dropping (from her end, I think).
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Highlighting the fact that there is such a thing as an “Apple Store” when there is no such thing as a “Samsung Store” seems odd. One of the major advantages of owning Apple products is the customer service available at the stores, whereas Samsung owners are up **** creek if they have questions.
I was in long-distance relationships for a while, and got so tired of terrible video call quality. Ended up sending my iPad to my gf and we used FaceTime. It was crystal clear and SO MUCH BETTER!
There was a time when Mac vs PC ads were very popular. I had collected all of them at that time. Funny ads. Also when Steve Jobs came back to Apple in 1997, he had made many Intel "Snail" jokes. Hilarious ones.
Like this?
Or this?
But whatever, it works for you and your GF and that's the main thing.
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No, I barely remember those. And where are they nowadays? Oh, that's right. They're not made anymore because nobody was buying them.
My issue with the stylus isn't so much where it's stored, but why you would need one with a device as small as a phone. I can see the use for a device with a bigger screen where more workspace offers more flexibility (for example, creating art.) But a phone? I still don't see the point and so far, nobody has given a single, compelling reason for one.
I never saw it firsthand but the handwriting recognition on the Newton was considered ahead of its day, IIRC.
Once again I ask: for what specifically?
Why are you doing this? Like a small child. Setting up a phone is not the same as setting whatsapp, viber, signal, telegram and facebook messenger in case someone uses those. And i don't need to share my personal details with multiple 3rd paryies. At no point during the phone setup you are asked to setup Facetime or iMessage. It just works with your apple id email.
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Everyone i know. Friends, colleagues, family members, around 50 people in total.
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I live in Europe. I use it everyday and i see people iMessage and FaceTime all the time. I think you can't comprehend the number of iPhones and iPads and Macs in the world.
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God, you really are looking for straws aren't you?
Here is a very simple reason for why i like the stylus on the note. Choice when i need a higher level of accuracy say when im using Photoshop or lightroom for an on the fly edit its there, when i dont i use my finger. Thats why Choice is a wonderful thing, you dont have to use it at all, but when you do its there all built into the phone.
Sure i don't use it every day of the week, far from it.
Its surprising how handy it is when you need to take a quick note down, no carrying pen and paper and the fact you can take the stylus out and take a note Without Unlocking the phone is a great security measure when your out and about, be it a meeting note, a telephone number an email.
Its not just about a stylus its the additional functions the software with it brings. Sure they are not magical or mindblowing but they are practical and useful.
I’d like one for marking up screen shots, highlighting text and light photo editing. A stylus would be more precise here. Also on the go I wouldn’t mind it to do some colouring.
No one ever denied that there is a use for stylus. What people said that it's not a top 5 or probably more top 10 feature for what people are looking.
Thats it, when you need that precision its there, i have used it to screengrab and mark up location and info before whatsapping it to a colleague, nothing earth shattering but thats not the point of it, its just a great add on which has its uses, sure its not an everyday tool for me but when i need it, im glad i have it
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Correct, (however i was replying to someone who stated no one has given him a valid reason for one) in that case they would get any other phone on the market and not buy the note again the benefit of choice. Im not justifying that the stylus is essential infact i said far from it, however there are those that want it and Samsung is the only one catering for it.
[doublepost=1534146137][/doublepost]And regarding the adverts themselves, i find them a little humorous, however i also recognise its an odd advertising campaign.
The only people i think they are aimed at are those lovely people called Samsung Knights. Samsung knows that the SK will end up showing and sharing these adds left right and center, on their social media and in their social circle as it provides them some odd comfort that they picked the right team, in a odd way the message gets spread a lot faster which makes for an effective campaign.
It will neither tempt an ios user across nor in fact a non Samsung user across to them. It just creates a buzz (wether good or bad) and gets a good coverage on tech sites such as this which then gets people talking. Its a cheap campaign that gets wide spread results.
As they say there is only one thing worse than being talked about and thats not being talked about.
Fine at selling "smartphones", sure. It still needs to be analyzed what those sales are compared to Apple's iPhone...
Apple says it is selling more X's than others of its half dozen models. Apple's ASP going UP bears that out.
Is Samsung selling more Notes and Galaxies than its other "300 smartphone" models? No. Samsung's ASP is not great, and often goes down; while Apple's has remained remarkably consistent since 2007, despite the introduction of lower priced models.
My experience in years of the same situation I can say that FaceTime deals horribly with suboptimal connection. It also shows weird behaviour all the time, e.g. FaceTime only ringing on some devices, but not others, video randomly turning off, odd video artefacts etc. Usually I have much more consistent experiences with Skype for example. Quality on those services can drop significantly, but it usually does not drop completely, which is what I usually see on FaceTime. Sure, it's convenient, but it sure as hell is not executed well.
This is one of the things I always liked about the "I'm a Mac" ads - they used anthropomorphization to explain concepts in a relatable way, but they made PC genuinely likable; Mac was more hip, but PC was charismatic. I'm not getting that vibe here.
Those are .... terrible ads! They're meant to be advertising Samsung, right?
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No, marketing 101 is not to give your competitor air time.
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No, marketing 101 is not to give your competitor air time.
Don’t believe that at all.
Price, reliability, compatibility, customer service and loads of others must come above that.
They did do that too. They were very subtle about it but they did it.
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No, it’s not. Marketing 101 is to do whatever lifts your brand/sales and if that means giving them airtime then it works.
Airtime is not always positive.
Exactly. Remember this Samsung classic?
"Why would I want a video to stop playing if I look away from my phone?"
A feature so amazing... they discontinued it in the next model...
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I'm not grasping for straws, show me vids that show a counter view, I had a cursory look, these were what I found on YouTube.
Counter video mayhaps?
I have hundreds of contacts, sure, some of them might use facetime but most of them use messenger and WhatsApp, even on ios, even hookers.
iMessage and facetime don't even make top five, let alone, top ten messaging apps.
It's the s-pen of messaging apps...
At a guess, I'd say you're from The Nederlands? Maybe?
Android is still the most used platform there, by nearly double.
Samsung still sells the most phones there, I'd say there's a fair bit of messaging going on the android and samsung side that you might not be taking notice of...
Or maybe Android users, or Samsung users are just not able to get their heads around messaging apps, or only when they want to talk to hookers.
I'm sure prostitutes use facetime too, I don't care, it's their money, good on them, I'm sure they use whatever they want to use....
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...and that's why I said, rather explicitly and unambiguously, for me, they are superior -- as it relates to my primary smartphone.
Mind you, I'm not an Apple only person. I do have a Mac mini, a MacBook Pro 15" from 2012, an iPad (the cheap one from 2017), and an iPhone (8 Plus), but I also have a Samsung Chromebook Plus (that I carry with me everyday -- MBP 15" too heavy for that and I don't need macOS for what I use the Chromebook for, nor did I want to pay the Apple tax to have a second Mac laptop), an old Dell Inspiron that runs Window 10 just fine, a generic Android tablet I use for development testing -- and I develop at work everyday on a Dell Optiplex running Windows 10.
I have no desire to convince you or anyone else to "switch" nor do I need to be an evangelist for the iPhone -- Apple is selling them just fine without my help.
What makes one product "better" than another for me? It's the one I like I better and integrates well with my life. Specifically, in my case, I'm just embedded enough in the Apple ecosystem (particularly iMessage) that to switch from iOS to Android would mean losing some features I really like and don't want to lose.
Conversely, I would gain nothing by switching to Android that is important enough to me to offset the loss of functionality I'd incur by leaving iOS. That's not to say I don't like some things about specific Android phones -- for example, as someone who regularly publicly whines about Apple's ditching the headphone jack, I bought an LG V20 because as a headphone enthusiast, I recognized that it was one of the best smartphones (at the time I bought it) for the money with not only a headphone jack, but a quality DAC and more powerful headphone amplifier than any iPhone I've had in the past.
I also am one of those weird people who thinks the option (not requirement) to use a stylus on a phone would be neat, so I've long liked the Note line for that reason, and I remember being jealous of one of my colleagues who used his Note with Samsung Pay because it could be used with magnetic swipe on standard POS machines -- very cool!
But for me, none of those cool features are enough to convince me to move.
That's all. Obviously, other people value differently, and that's ok!
Yes, but no one was discussing moving. You will note I too have a number of Apple products as well as competitor tech so for me it's not a case of moving. Your argument was 'I still find for me that Apple's products are superior and it's not even close'. I might have understood your claim maybe 5 years ago, but now, well not really. Where is the superiority? I couldn't really argue that MacOS is any better than Windows 10 or that iOS is better than Android. They all have their differences regarding implementation. but being different does not equate to a product being inferior.
Your statement leaves me genuinely mystified.