Samsung Shares New 'Ingenius' Ads Pitting New Galaxy Note 9 Against iPhone X

[Ursadorable]

Card Companies track you too, whether you like it or not, probably more than Google. Are you going to use cash for now on?

The difference is, the credit card companies don't track you every minute of every day. And you DO have a choice if to use cash or not. Google gives you NO option.

 

[Heineken]

Only some die hard fans feel alienated. The average iPhone user doesn't give a damn about an ad poking fun. Anyone that's in their feelings over this, needs to check their priorities in life.
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Card Companies track you too, whether you like it or not, probably more than Google. Are you going to use cash for now on?

That's why we have Apple Pay.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

The difference is, the credit card companies don't track you every minute of every day. And you DO have a choice if to use cash or not. Google gives you NO option.

If anyone actually believes this, then I have a bridge to sell you.

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2018/08/13/siri-is-listening-to-you-but-shes-not-spying-says-apple/

Timothy Powderly, Apple’s director of federal government affairs, emphasized in the letter that Apple minimizes collection of data and anonymizes what it does collect:

"We believe privacy is a fundamental human right and purposely design our products and services to minimize our collection of customer data. When we do collect data, we’re transparent about it and work to disassociate it from the user."

 

[DNichter]

No other manufacturer is eating into Samsung's sales like Apple. And no other manufacturer has such a strong hold on their consumers like Apple. Of course Samsung has to be aggressive. Just like Apple was aggressive with the "Mac vs PC" ads than ran in the mid to late 00s, before the iPhone took Apple to a new plateau.

I disagree. Samsung should be focused on mid to low tier Android manufacturers. Samsung isn't going to beat Apple at the high end game, it's just a losing battle. Apple will continue to own the West, while Huawei looks to be positioned to own the East. They have been running this "aggressive" ad campaign all year and their flagship sales continue to be terrible.
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If anyone actually believes this, then I have a bridge to sell you.

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2018/08/13/siri-is-listening-to-you-but-shes-not-spying-says-apple/

Did you even read the article? It goes into detail about how Siri isn't listening or collecting user information.

"And no, Siri is not eavesdropping. The letter went into specifics about how iPhones can respond to voice commands without actually eavesdropping. It has to do with locally stored, short buffers that only wake up Siri if there’s a high probability that what it hears is the “Hey, Siri” cue.

A buffer is a chunk of audio that’s continually recorded over and thus, by definition, isn’t archived. In short, “always listening” is pretty restricted: an iPhone has only a short amount of recorded audio at any time. That audio is only used to identify the trigger phrase “Hey Siri,” and it’s only stored locally.

Once actual recording takes place after the “Hey, Siri” phrase is uttered, the recording that’s sent to Apple is attached to an anonymous identification number that isn’t tied to an individual’s Apple ID. Users can reset that identification number at any time."

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I disagree. Samsung should be focused on mid to low tier Android manufacturers. Samsung isn't going to beat Apple at the high end game, it's just a losing battle. Apple will continue to own the West, while Huawei looks to be positioned to own the East. They have been running this "aggressive" ad campaign all year and their flagship sales continue to be terrible.

You don't get it. Samsung is not trying to beat Apple, it's going after the consumers that are willing to spend money. The majority of consumers that purchase a mid to low tier device, are not going to spend close or above $999 for a flagship model. A great portion of iPhone consumers have proven they will spend that much for a device. Samsung is not going to get the flagship sales by chasing after the budget minded.
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Did you even read the article? It goes into detail about how Siri isn't listening or collecting user information.

"And no, Siri is not eavesdropping. The letter went into specifics about how iPhones can respond to voice commands without actually eavesdropping. It has to do with locally stored, short buffers that only wake up Siri if there’s a high probability that what it hears is the “Hey, Siri” cue.

A buffer is a chunk of audio that’s continually recorded over and thus, by definition, isn’t archived. In short, “always listening” is pretty restricted: an iPhone has only a short amount of recorded audio at any time. That audio is only used to identify the trigger phrase “Hey Siri,” and it’s only stored locally.

Once actual recording takes place after the “Hey, Siri” phrase is uttered, the recording that’s sent to Apple is attached to an anonymous identification number that isn’t tied to an individual’s Apple ID. Users can reset that identification number at any time."

My reference is what I quoted, not the topic of the article.

 

[Michael Scrip]

Who’s bragging?

The "genius".

ohhh I see... you're talking about the fake genius inside the fake Apple Store in the Samsung commercial.

That's a fictional character. Samsung could make him say anything in this fake encounter.

I thought you were talking about someone bragging in the real world. My bad.

Anyway... let's back up for a second.

Apple announced "Group FaceTime" at WWDC. It's an expansion of their existing FaceTime service.

But there seems to be a lot of of people fixated on that one particular line in the keynote. Including Samsung.

How about this: rather than thinking about the "up to 32 simultaneous participants" part of the keynote... you should think of it as "more than one" participant.

That's much more palatable.

It's the kind of stuff you will get whilst shopping for a new car. Mention a couple of features you like in another car from a different vendor and the sales man will likely go on about some near useless feature.

The whole ad is making fun of these types of encouters.

I see what you mean. Samsung is portraying this "genius" as a little too excitable.

To be honest... I've never seen an Apple Store employee act like the ones in these Samsung commercials. I wonder why that is...

 

[DNichter]

You don't get it. Samsung is not trying to beat Apple, it's going after the consumers that are willing to spend money. The majority of consumers that purchase a mid to low tier device, are not going to spend close or above $999 for a flagship model. A great portion of iPhone consumers have proven they will spend that much for a device. Samsung is not going to get the flagship sales by chasing after the budget minded.

I get it. Samsung is directly targeting Apple with these ads. Not a lot of customers are going to buy a Samsung phone when they can buy an iPhone for the same cost. When I say focus on the low-mid tier, I am referring to outside of the US where they have been the major player for years. Brands like Huawei are taking their low/mid tier customers, which makes up for the large majority of their market share. Hope that makes more sense.

 

[adamski23]

When apple introduces an iPhone with pencil support, I expect them to release software or features that will make the feature desirable to the masses - similar to how they introduced animoji's with the new faceid. Whether this is useful or gimmicky doesn't really matter as the formula works.

Edit - Btw, its just an ad - who cares how Samsung delivers their intended message. Clearly, it's working to generate publicity because people are talking about it. If these types of ad approaches were not working, they would have stopped producing them.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

Yes that's why I said Apple care more about keeping Intel happy than their customers by using the superior Qualcomm chips at full capacity
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Somebody whose job requires qualifications. Not the people Apple is marketing to with emojis.

So, you think that Samsung phones don't have as many Emoji-centered features and marketing as iPhones?

That's about a damned laugh!

https://www.samsung.com/us/smartphones/galaxy-s9/augmented-reality/

https://www.businessinsider.com/gal...py-apple-animoji-iphone-x-samsung-exec-2018-2

https://www.sammobile.com/tag/ar-emoji/

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/02/25/samsung-galaxy-s9-takes-ar-emojis-to-the-next-level.html

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

ohhh I see... you're talking about the fake genius inside the fake Apple Store in the Samsung commercial.

That's a fictional character. Samsung could make him say anything in this fake encounter.

I thought you were talking about someone bragging in the real world. My bad.

Anyway... let's back up for a second.

Apple announced "Group FaceTime" at WWDC. It's an expansion of their existing FaceTime service.

But there seems to be a lot of of people fixated on that one particular line in the keynote. Including Samsung.

How about this: rather than thinking about the "up to 32 simultaneous participants" part of the keynote... you should think of it as "more than one" participant.

That's much more palatable.



I see what you mean. Samsung is portraying this "genius" as a little too excitable.

To be honest... I've never seen an Apple Store employee act like the ones in these Samsung commercials. I wonder why that is...

All you people are classic.
These are spoof ads. Get over them. They seem to be taking up too much of your time It's just all a bit of fun.

 

[Dave.UK]

You aren't convincing iOS users to come to Samsung when you try to portray the iOS user as an idiot.

To be fair, judging by a lot of the childish comments posted on here, they're not that far off the mark!
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lol android users asking 'why would I want to do that' when android literally is based on having every possible function under the sun regardless of it has any use at all

Examples being?

 

[lec0rsaire]

Who wants a stylus? Seriously. On a larger screen such as a tablet it is great. The Galaxy Note did show us that screens larger than 3.5” are better. Now that nearly all phones are phablets you really have to want that damn stylus or have to be the first to play fortnite on Android.

 

[pika2000]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-phone-factory-electronic-times-idUSKBN1KY07O

Maybe Samsung should stop wasting money on these ads.

 

[redman042]

But I think the FaceTime angle is valid. Who and why would want to FaceTime 32 peoole?? It's not a corporate video conferencing app!

An odd thing to complain about. Obviously most people will FaceTime a small handful of people at once, not 32, but why mock Apple for setting the limit very high?

 

[mi7chy]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-phone-factory-electronic-times-idUSKBN1KY07O

Maybe Samsung should stop wasting money on these ads.

That is actually positive news for the rest of Asia with regards to China's aggressive territorial claims with manufacturing revenue being moved away from China to other Asian countries. Apple are the only traitor to have all manufacturing in China but they may soon be forced to change too.

According to the Electronic Times, its Tianjin plant in China produces 36 million mobile phones a year and its Huizhou plant makes 72 million units a year, while the two factories in Vietnam combined make 240 million units a year.

 

[Apple Cart]

Samsung today uploaded new ads in its ongoing "Ingenius" series that makes fun of the Apple Genius Bar and pits the iPhone X against Samsung's Galaxy devices.

In the first ad, called "Power," a customer tells the "genius" that the Galaxy Note is "really powerful." "You know what I think is powerful?" the genius replies. "Being able to unlock your phone with your face." "It does that too," the customer replies.

The genius bar then points out that on iOS 12, you can FaceTime up to 32 people. "Why would I ever want to do that though?" asks the customer.

In the second ad, entitled "Pen," a customer comes into the "ingenius bar" and asks about the difference between the Apple Pencil and the S Pen that comes with the Galaxy Note 9. "Well, the Apple Pencil only works on the iPad," says the genius. "Okay, so what can I use on my phone?" asks the customer. "Uh... your finger?" replies the genius.

Samsung's newest ads in the "Ingenius" series are promoting the Galaxy Note 9, a device that it launched just yesterday. The 6.4-inch Galaxy Note 9 is equipped with a Snapdragon 845 processor, which has been bested by the iPhone X, along with an iris scanner at the front and a fingerprint sensor at the back.

It works with the S Pen stylus, and while some rumors have suggested Apple is exploring an Apple Pencil option for the iPhone, it's not clear if that's something that will ever happen.

Samsung has shared several ads in the Ingenius series, making fun of the iPhone X's notch, lack of SD card, lack of multitasking capabilities, and the fact that there's no headphone jack, while highlighting the the faster LTE speeds and camera in the Galaxy S9.

Article Link: Samsung Shares New 'Ingenius' Ads Pitting New Galaxy Note 9 Against iPhone X

No thanks, Samsung. My mom has a Galaxy 8 and despite the awesome screen the software on it makes it suck donkey kong.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I get it. Samsung is directly targeting Apple with these ads. Not a lot of customers are going to buy a Samsung phone when they can buy an iPhone for the same cost. When I say focus on the low-mid tier, I am referring to outside of the US where they have been the major player for years. Brands like Huawei are taking their low/mid tier customers, which makes up for the large majority of their market share. Hope that makes more sense.

I think it depends on the person and what OS they want. If they want android they might be willing to pay £999 for a flagship Samsung phone. Some people just go back and forth and don’t settle on one OS or another. I think they just like trying out different phones.

In Asia they probably need to reduce their prices a bit so they can compete with the other android OEMs.

 

[DNichter]

I think it depends on the person and what OS they want. If they want android they might be willing to pay £999 for a flagship Samsung phone. Some people just go back and forth and don’t settle on one OS or another. I think they just like trying out different phones.

In Asia they probably need to reduce their prices a bit so they can compete with the other android OEMs.

Agreed, that's a fair point. That's why I said "not a lot" in regards to customers who will buy a Samsung when they can get an iPhone for the same cost. The Note doesn't sell very well so it's a small group of Android enthusiasts that are okay spending $1,000 on an Android.

 

[Applemaniac7]

It’s like Samsung has this pathological inferiority complex with Apple. And, as always, they give Apple more airtime than their own products. It’s downright bizarre.

You mean like this forum... thousands of replies to anything Samsung related... It's as if that pesky south Korean firm has ruffled a few feathers around these parts..

 

[ssl0408]

The Note 9 is any ugly looking device. It doesn’t fit comfortably in the hands. And who wants a stylus on such a small screen? This will not sell well, just like the S9 and S9+.

 

[Greymacuser]

Excellent ads.

 

[pat500000]

Ingenius: "You know what's powerful? face timing 32 people..."
Guy: "It's been delayed."
Ingenius: "Oh..."

 

[rachleff]

Despite having a complete Apple Eco system (Airport extreme, Express, Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, iPad Air, iPods and even a G3, Powerbook 150 and a Lisa) I just got my hands on the Samsung S9+, it's AMAZING. I never thought it would be harder to change the opinion of Apple users than a Trump supporter but I do invite you to try out the phone before you drink the Apple cool aid. It's incredible, better low light pictures, 464 gigs of storage with micro SD card add-on and better battery life. Not to mention in charges on Samsung $29 wireless charger in 2 hours instead of Apple's proposed charging mat that's going to cost $149. Don't knock it until you're tried it.

 

[CarlJ]

Phoning 32 people at once with Facetime isn't portrayed as a negative, just something that the customer wouldn't ever want to do, as with the vast majority of people and therefore not worth bragging about.

Except Apple hasn't really bragged about it. They've presented it as a very upper limit, not as something you'll constantly do. The real point was, they didn't set the limit to 3 or 4, or some other low number, where people would bump into the limit, they instead set it "really high" (developers will, of course, recognize it as a power of 2).

Samsung twists this around to pretend Apple is bragging, so that they can point out the foolishness of that position. They're attacking a straw man.

I could just as easily assert that half of the features on Samsung's latest phone were designed specifically for clowns, and that's completely useless/pointless of them since such a small percentage of the population are actually professional clowns. How incredibly foolish of Samsung. Why would anyone want clown features?

(Here's the underlying point they're not discussing: Apple's phones run an OS that is of Apple's devising, such that Apple has complete control over features like FaceTime - Samsung, by contrast, has to rely upon Google for the OS, so they're left to trumpet software features that they are given.)

 

[catportal]

You could see a stylus more often before iPhone in the old days of those Symbian and windows communicators. Now not so much.
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Intel modem is fine.
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Intel modem is not fine. When it comes to wireless signal processing there are many factors:
Bandwidth, Speed, Latency, Signal attenuation etc

Speed is meaningless to most people (whether they know it or not), getting reception is much more important. The Intel chip has bad reception in comparison to Qualcomm chips (given the same signal to noise ratio).