Samsung Shares New 'Ingenius' Ads Pitting New Galaxy Note 9 Against iPhone X

[Shanghaichica]

I'm not grasping for straws, show me vids that show a counter view, I had a cursory look, these were what I found on YouTube.

Counter video mayhaps?

I have hundreds of contacts, sure, some of them might use facetime but most of them use messenger and WhatsApp, even on ios, even hookers.

iMessage and facetime don't even make top five, let alone, top ten messaging apps.
It's the s-pen of messaging apps...

At a guess, I'd say you're from The Nederlands? Maybe?
Android is still the most used platform there, by nearly double.
Samsung still sells the most phones there, I'd say there's a fair bit of messaging going on the android and samsung side that you might not be taking notice of...
Or maybe Android users, or Samsung users are just not able to get their heads around messaging apps, or only when they want to talk to hookers.

I'm sure prostitutes use facetime too, I don't care, it's their money, good on them, I'm sure they use whatever they want to use....

I’m an iPhone user and I don’t even use iMessage. FaceTime I use my occasionally with my family members but I use what’sApp everyday. I’m from the UK.

 

[Klyster]

I’m an iPhone user and I don’t even use iMessage. FaceTime I use my occasionally with my family members but I use what’sApp everyday. I’m from the UK.

Yeah, Whatsapp is ubiquitous.... most users I know use it regardless whether they use Android or IOS.

 

[plexdk]

Like this?

Or this?

Weird, works a lot better here. I even know deaf people who swear to FaceTime because it’s super smooth, when doing hand signals

 

[Klyster]

Weird, works a lot better here. I even know deaf people who swear to FaceTime because it’s super smooth, when doing hand signals

Well that's the main thing, if it's smooth for you and your deaf friends, who cares about some vids I found on youtube.
My point was to illustrate that one persons anecdotal reasoning doesn't always apply to others.
I guess I failed as Coolfactor was only giving his/her personal experience and wasn't implying that facetime was the be all, end all.
Sorry Coolfactor, it was a misguided post on my part.

 

[ChrisCW11]

Insecure much? I've read more about Samsung on this "Apple" site then most other tech blogs have reported. Samsung released a product and some ads, its not Apple newsworthy.

Relax, Apple will still sell a **** ton of iPhones next quarter, and this Note 9 didn't introduce any feature Apple will want to rip off anyways.

Also, Samsung is stealing a play out of Apple's "old" playbook about singling out their competition in their advertisements. It's been a while sine Apple explicitly singled out a competitor in an iPhone ad, but back in the day Apple was just as much a culprit in calling out another companies name (like Microsoft) and gloating about how much better they were when Apple's sales figures no where near matched their competition.

 

[Piggie]

Those are genuinely terrible. Bad marketing, not memorable, a bit insulting, and ignorant. Samsung should be aiming at other android competitors.

Edit: why would anyone want to use a stylus with their phone? People that think like this must have missed the Palm/PDA era. It is not helpful, convenient, or useful. But you can get a stylus and use it with your iPhone if you want.

Not having the option of a stylus just holds apps back.
You can only go so far with finger input.
Yes you can design user interfaces with BIG buttons for fingers to press, but you will always be limited.
If you need finer control, or wish more precise drawing, then a tool for the job is better than your finger.
Cavemen learned that some time ago.
Juts because you CAN use a finger, does not make it the best tool at all times you know.

 

[ggibson913]

I don't understand the Samsung obsession with iPhone. I guess iPhone is their main competitor but I would be more worried about other Android Phones. There are lots of really nice Android Phones out there that are much less expensive than the Galaxy note. At this point I am unsure there are many platform converts out there which would be willing to switch though there are always some.

My favorite commercials are the ones making fun of people on line waiting for the store to open so they can get an iPhone. As if Samsung wouldn't love that.

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

Fair enough about FaceTime around the world.

But I get the feeling that these commercials are for the United States audience (?)

It just feels like Samsung is grasping at straws trying to find stuff to blast Apple for. Will I ever talk to 32 people on a FaceTime call? No. But Samsung thinks it's somehow a "negative" that I'm able to.

Notice how Samsung didn't make fun of FaceTime itself.... only its new feature enabling massive multi-person calls.

Seems like a petty thing to call-out.

Phoning 32 people at once with Facetime isn't portrayed as a negative, just something that the customer wouldn't ever want to do, as with the vast majority of people and therefore not worth bragging about.

 

[DNichter]

Wait a minute. Just HOW do you know that?

There is zero proof that the market for a stylus is anything like "small" or "niche", lots of evidence that it's larger than "small niche", and plenty of evidence of great growth potential, too.

Apple came out with an Apple Pencil in response to consumers' desire to have another input interface. Yes, for now it's only for a tablet, but that doesn't mean that we don't want such a thing for our smartphones too. And there are lots of other stylus and stylus-like input devices out there, for all manner of device types and platforms.

So I'll say it again: I'd like a stylus for the 6.5" iPhone X2 (or whatever it's called). I know it would be good for me and I think it could be a good thing for a lot of people, too. But let's make the device with internal storage. Storing my Apple Pencil is a real hassle.

Edit: I saw one of your later posts, where you said you think it will come to iPhones anyway. I don't know if it will, but I hope it does. In any event, I doubt Apple would add it if they thought it wouldn't be a selling point for people in a larger group.
[doublepost=1534132462][/doublepost]You raise a great point. I finally did a facetime with one of my friends who was in the UK. Was nice, although the calls kept dropping (from her end, I think).

Sales, that's how I know. Take a look at Note 8 sales vs. all of the smartphones without a stylus. If the mass market wanted a stylus, Note sales would be much higher. Also, just take a look around your surroundings - does anyone use a stylus on their phone? I doubt it. Common sense gives me that answer.

 

[Heineken]

Sales, that's how I know. Take a look at Note 8 sales vs. all of the smartphones without a stylus. If the mass market wanted a stylus, Note sales would be much higher. Also, just take a look around your surroundings - does anyone use a stylus on their phone? I doubt it. Common sense gives me that answer.

Like one very smart man said once you don’t have to go to moon to know it’s not made out of blue cheese.

 

[DNichter]

Poor dude. You could have done it long ago using one of the many apps thatcan do it (like Google hangouts) if you weren't a stubborn Apple fan whoo had to wait for a tool from Apple. There is really no reason to panish yourself.
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Don't you see how strange this sound? You either want the features or you don't. But if you do, don't you want them sooner rather than later?

It may sound strange, but I am completely content with the iOS platform. There are a few features I'd like to see (dark mode being one), but I am not sitting here needing anything. OLED and wireless charging are examples of that. I am good with them coming to the platform, but I wasn't in any rush. There are way too many other positives to get caught up in features. When I look at a phone platform, I'm looking at the best overall combination of performance, security, privacy, ecosystem, apps, and support. Features are fleeting.

 

[Shanghaichica]

It may sound strange, but I am completely content with the iOS platform. There are a few features I'd like to see (dark mode being one), but I am not sitting here needing anything. OLED and wireless charging are examples of that. I am good with them coming to the platform, but I wasn't in any rush. There are way too many other positives to get caught up in features. When I look at a phone platform, I'm looking at the best overall combination of performance, security, privacy, ecosystem, apps, and support. Features are fleeting.

This is it in a nutshell. For me other devices might have more features, some of which I wouldn't mind having on my iPhone. However the iPhone for me is the best overall device and I'm not interested in switching away because of any features that might be on another phone.

 

[4look4rd]

It’s like Samsung has this pathological inferiority complex with Apple. And, as always, they give Apple more airtime than their own products. It’s downright bizarre.

It’s like people don’t remember the long running I’m a Mac commercial series. Those were even cheesier.

 

[DNichter]

This is it in a nutshell. For me other devices might have more features, some of which I wouldn't mind having on my iPhone. However the iPhone for me is the best overall device and I'm not interested in switching away because of any features that might be on another phone.

Exactly, a feature here or there certainly isn't going to make me abandon the whole reason I am on the platform. If only Samsung understood that.

 

[dantastic]

Nike sells a commodity, they sell shoes. And yet when you think of Nike you feel something different than a shoe company. In their ads, as you know, they don’t ever talk about the product, they don’t ever talk about their air soles, how they’re better than Reebok’s air soles. What’s Nike do in their advertising? They honor great athletes and they honor great athletics. That is what they are about.

Our customers want to know, “Who is Apple and what is it that we stand for? Where do we fit in this world?” What we’re about isn’t making boxes for people to get their jobs done, though we do that well. We do that better than almost anybody in some cases. But Apple’s about something more than that: Apple, at the core, its core value, is we believe that people with passion can change the world for the better. That’s what we believe.

I think there are different people in the world and some feel they have to seem more important by putting others down. Watch the ads and ask yourself, do I want to be that person?

The ad is selling more than the product, it's selling a persona, a lifestyle. From watching that ad I don't want to buy a samsung, I don't want to be the dick at the party telling people that my phone has threepointfourtytwo petaflops of diggerydoo

 

[AnthonyHarris]

*one fell swoop

I'll leave now....

You're third in line I think... Well done.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Exactly, a feature here or there certainly isn't going to make me abandon the whole reason I am on the platform. If only Samsung understood that.

Samsung does understand that, which is why they're carefully building up it's ecosystem. But the difference with Samsung is, they are not abandoning the demographic that wants the cutting edge features and tech.

 

[Ursadorable]

Another reason why I'll never buy an Android device.

https://www.apnews.com/828aefab64d4...-Google-tracks-your-movements,-like-it-or-not

That's what happens when you buy something from a company where YOU are the product.

 

[DNichter]

Samsung does understand that, which is why they're carefully building up it's ecosystem. But the difference with Samsung is, they are not abandoning the demographic that wants the cutting edge features and tech.

Going by this marketing campaign, they definitely don't. They are pointing out minor features and alienating iOS customers. The only people these ads will appeal to are existing Samsung customers, making them feel better about their purchases, and sending them to Apple fan sites to try and defend them. The whole campaign is pretty amateur, which may even turn off existing customers.

 

[Heineken]

Another reason why I'll never buy an Android device.

https://www.apnews.com/828aefab64d4...-Google-tracks-your-movements,-like-it-or-not

That's what happens when you buy something from a company where YOU are the product.

If true then one more reason not to trust anything they say or do.

 

[Michael Scrip]

Phoning 32 people at once with Facetime isn't portrayed as a negative, just something that the customer wouldn't ever want to do, as with the vast majority of people and therefore not worth bragging about.

Who’s bragging? Apple announced this feature at WWDC in June... and I haven’t heard them say anything more about it since then. It’s an upcoming feature in iOS 12... so I don’t think Apple has even started marketing it yet.

Besides... if it’s such a “meh” feature... why would Samsung acknowledge it at all?

The average consumer likely didn’t even know that FaceTime will soon allow multiple callers at once.

Hell... I honestly forgot about it until this Samsung commercial.

So... thanks for reminding me Samsung!

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

Who’s bragging?
The "genius".

It's the kind of stuff you will get whilst shopping for a new car. Mention a couple of features you like in another car from a different vendor and the sales man will likely go on about some near useless feature.

The whole ad is making fun of these types of encouters.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Going by this marketing campaign, they definitely don't. They are pointing out minor features and alienating iOS customers. The only people these ads will appeal to are existing Samsung customers, making them feel better about their purchases, and sending them to Apple fan sites to try and defend them. The whole campaign is pretty amateur, which may even turn off existing customers.

Only some die hard fans feel alienated. The average iPhone user doesn't give a damn about an ad poking fun. Anyone that's in their feelings over this, needs to check their priorities in life.
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Another reason why I'll never buy an Android device.

https://www.apnews.com/828aefab64d4...-Google-tracks-your-movements,-like-it-or-not

That's what happens when you buy something from a company where YOU are the product.

If true then one more reason not to trust anything they say or do.

Card Companies track you too, whether you like it or not, probably more than Google. Are you going to use cash for now on?

 

[DNichter]

Only some die hard fans feel alienated. The average iPhone user doesn't give a damn about an ad poking fun. Anyone that's in their feelings over this, needs to check their priorities in life.

Oh yea, I don't think any iPhone user would feel offended by these ads. They're pretty amateur and don't give any compelling reasons to switch to a Samsung. I don't understand this campaign at all, Samsung should be focusing on the companies eating into their sales.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Oh yea, I don't think any iPhone user would feel offended by these ads. They're pretty amateur and don't give any compelling reasons to switch to a Samsung. I don't understand this campaign at all, Samsung should be focusing on the companies eating into their sales.

No other manufacturer is eating into Samsung's sales like Apple. And no other manufacturer has such a strong hold on their consumers like Apple. Of course Samsung has to be aggressive. Just like Apple was aggressive with the "Mac vs PC" ads than ran in the mid to late 00s, before the iPhone took Apple to a new plateau.