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It will likely demonstrate how clueless Apple’s current customers are. Every time Apple announces a new iPhone model, Jimmy Kimmel approaches iPhone owners on the street and asks them to comment on the new phone. He showed them an iPad Mini in one example. In another example, he showed them the exact same phone as the one the person had. Unsurprisingly, they went gaga over it!

And you know that isn't staged or scripted, right?
 
Until they explode.

I'm willing to bet that Samsung tested the crap out of this battery and would be the safest phone out. Samsung has too much riding on this. This is not some fly by night Chinese Android OEM.
 
See the iPhone 7 plus and the Samsung S8 next to each other. See for yourself and there you have your answers. Seeing is believing.

Some new Kia's and Hyundai's also look better than BMWs or Audi's, but I would still take BMW or Audi over any of them.

Samsung created a nice phone, only because they keep changing the designs every year. The only reasons that the new S8 looks impressive is that Apple's iPhone is using 3 years old design. Spec and performance wise, it is just another year and another bump in the android world - nothing more. It is typical that Android gets newer tech earlier, but usually it is there for bragging rights, not to make peoples life easier or better.

Since iPhone 7 is such a beast performance wise, I would not be surprised if it was even or better in many benchmarks against S8. Time will tell.

Also, I remember when people complained when Apple released 5 and people complained that it was just taller 4S with another row of icons. Fast forward 5 years and now Samsung just did the same thing and all of sudden people get excited about such a tall phone. it crazy how times change.
 
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Wow... where are all these posters coming from?

The placement of the fingerprint sensor is the biggest flaw of the design to me. It's not even centered or close to the center / bottom of the device. That makes it an immediate non-starter. Apple did the right thing by putting the fingerprint sensor in front - the proper way forward is to embed it on the screen, not relocate it.
 
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I had the S7 edge. Beautiful screen, but the edges just lead to unwanted touches. Between the S7 and S8, I'd rather have the 7 bc that FP sensor by the camera is HORRIBLE! Every picture you take is going to have light defraction from fingerprints on the lens. Also, the only reason for having such a large battery and fast charging is bc that screen sucks the life out of a battery. Overall, yeah, this looks good but it's functionally horrible in so many ways I would never consider it. Phones like the Axon 7 have a much better design with front facing cameras on the very tiny bezels. That's what Apple should be looking at, not this crap. I'm sorry, but unless you have used the S7 Edge as a daily driver, you really have no idea how bad it is to use. Plus, is it just me, or is that S8+ the oddest length phone you have ever seen. Who needs a phone that long!?!?!
 
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Right now at Apple and Samsung HQ's...
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Wow... where are all these posters coming from?

The placement of the fingerprint sensor is the biggest flaw of the design to me. It's not even centered or close to the center / bottom of the device. That makes it an immediate non-starter. Apple did the right thing by putting the fingerprint sensor in front - the proper way forward is to embed it on the screen, not relocate it.

"Wow... where are all these posters coming from?"

samsung-paid astroturfers. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Almost close to 1000 comments. When was the last time that happened front page?

Lol... We had 600 odd in Jan but if we go back to November, we had 922 on an article about non-removable SSDs from new MBP. This is hardly a rarity - especially on articles about the release of iPhones/competition.
 
I love the front display but the back of the phone looks cheap. The back on Samsung phones is always too busy, too crowded and too much branding. We get it. You want people to know its the new Samsung S8+ etc. but that camera is hideous.

I agree. When you flip a Samsung phone over, you see where they saved money. Cheap plastics, no? Part of Apple’s luxury is the feel. The glass or metal on the backs of Apple’s phones feel substantial. The iPhone C showed how plastic can change the perception of the product.
 
Not being interested and dismissing are two different things. I always like to see what the competition has to offer, but I have no intention of buying it. That does not mean I'm dismissing it.

I wasn't attacking you or other people like you, because that includes me! I personally won't buy into their products either because iOS is an absolute must for what I need. But you'll be surprised by how many people are out there who still believes in Apple Exceptionalism. Sometimes I'd rather see these phones outselling iPhones just so Apple can take notes on how to do it right.
 
It's disappointing to me that Samsung just gathers all the iPhone rumors, patches a phone together, and hurls it out at us. I value competition in the marketplace, but this is like clone wars.

My iPhone 6 plus has 43,000 photos, 650 apps and 112,000 e-mails. There is no way I would trust that amount of content to a Samsung device, and depend on everything to update correctly.

lol ok

USBC
gearvr
Dex docking
face recognition
Iris scanning
OLED
wireless charging
water proofing
4k
NFC
curved oled (note edge)
on screen buttons (galaxy Nexus 2011)

are all Samsung first without any rumors of the iPhone having them.you are confusing wishful thinking with rumors.everything the galaxy has is what people rumor about apple doing because Samsung is doing it first.
 
Lots of phones had sucky touch sensors before Apple. I will be interested to see how the iris sensor does in real world practice.
 
I agree. When you flip a Samsung phone over, you see where they saved money. Cheap plastics, no? Part of Apple’s luxury is the feel. The glass or metal on the backs of Apple’s phones feel substantial. The iPhone C showed how plastic can change the perception of the product.

I actually appreciate the polished texture you see on those phone's back, especially the blue models. They don't glam as much when fingerprints are all over it, but when it's clean it can be very pretty under different lightings.

Oh by the way I think that material is also what Apple's pursuing if they really want to put wireless charging on coming iPhones.
 
Thinking of switching from iPhone 6 Plus to S8 after been in Apple ecosystem for almost a decade.

I was wondering how easy it is to switch and how well Samsung phones are integrated with Mac OS X as I am not fully ready to switch the desktop.

GOOD LUCK! Every time I've switched to android, I've switched back within weeks due to the lack of integration. iMessage is easily the biggest loss, and trying to find a replacement for it is nearly impossible. Transferring files to a mac will sometimes work, sometimes not. Personally, I don't like Samsung phones because the design is frustrating and the duplicative apps are a pain in the ass. Go with something more stock like Moto Z or Pixel.... but don't sell your iPhone right away as you will probably come back to it as soon as you lose the new car smell.
 
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AppleTV is the most crashy and infurating device I have used since Windows 95. I have had several and they are garbage.

They also don't do the basics like "receive what the iPhone is trying to send" or "show me the content I want to watch". Or "play a movie without crashing in the middle of it." I don't know how that "just works". I

iOS (your first three examples) is famous for being endlessly hit and miss. Sometimes updates kill it. Sometimes updates kill the battery life. Sometimes i just slows down irreparably for no reason -- typically right before new hardware is released. Sometimes it's horrible and you want to downgrade but you're not allowed. Sometimes an update kills facetime (an advertised feature) and you can never get it back until you buy another thousand dollar cellphone or sue the vendor. Ridiculous.

All of those issues are extensively documented by millions of users and class-action participants. There is nothing "just works" about it.

The only thing that Apple is worse at than software are services. I am a paid iCloud user -- I joined when it was dot mac. The uptime record is atrocious. It gets features and then they are taken away. SEARCH is garbage. I can't search my own mailbox in the web client. It's horrible and does not get better, unlike commodity free services. And I have to pay for the privilege of using it!

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/05/07/steve-jobs-reaction-to-mobileme-launch-and-other-anecdotes/

Photos were storable in the cloud for awhile and then they weren't. Then I had to upgrade my cloud database to a format that precluded my iPad and my iPhoto from accessing my photos. Totally insane.

I could go on, and you know it. You are willfully ignoring Apple's terrible, horrible track record when you say that Apple products "just work".

I know a guy with a Mercedes who has exactly the same delusion. It's in the shop constantly, but he goes on about the quality of his high-end luxury car.

EDIT now more of their horrible product history is coming to mind. Airport and Airport Extreme = sometimes work sometimes no work. Year after year, generation after generation. Eventually they just stopped trying and quietly phased them out. Time machine same thing -- fails to back up for no reason, fails to restore for no reason.

Anecdote: I once took a failed time machine restore to the Apple store for help because I was panicking. User had backed up a lifetime of photos on an Apple time capsule using Time Machine and a high-spec CTO MBP which promptly failed.

I was told by multiple people at the Apple store (and you can check this out) that Apple does not offer support or guidance for Time Machine because the liability to Apple is too great.

So the developer and vendor of a bad product, designed to help people with disaster recovery, has (or had in around 2012) a policy to refuse to support the product if it malfunctions during a disaster recovery.

And in classical Apple style, the dialog box offered no information about the error or how it could be recovered.

(I got the data back eventually but without the help of Apple or Time Machine.)

The emperor has no clothes, people.
Yet here you are, a paying iCloud customer and 5-year MacRumors member. Interesting. I also believe that evolving complexity, predominantly of networking but also of operating systems, no longer means anything "just works" anymore, but I still think the Apple ecosystem is the best of the bunch, and most importantly I trust Apple with my data head & shoulders above others.
 
Are people STILL saying that Android is buggy and slow in 2017? Holy crap. Android is extremely stable and buttery smooth. This phone makes the iPhone 7 looks ancient. This year is Apple's put up or shut up year. They've been average for so long.

Samsung as a company has surpassed Apple. Obviously not what people on this site want to hear, but it's true.
 
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is Samsung it's own real competition right now? :eek:

Samsung's main competitor is probably Xiaomi. But, I think the real threat to Samsung is Lenovo. They own Motorola and have a decently strong foothold in the west, unlike Xiaomi and Huawei. In addition, their approach is to compliment Android with their software, whereas Samsung is dead set on supplementing Android's UI. I've acknowledged the beauty of Samsung phones, but only Motorola and their UI has tempted me to switch from Apple.
 
If someone thinks the iPhone 8 will put this phone to shame they are dreaming. At best you can hope the bezels are close to being as slim, but even that would be a stretch.

You're right, because the iphone 7 puts this thing to shame, bezels aren't everything.
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The iPhone 8 will probably have a similar look and the same screen for sure.... so your bastard hybrid will be half Samsung too :D

I have faith Apple won't be stupid enough to make the corners of the screen round or the edges curved.

This is a S7 with a moved home button and slimmer bezels. If Apple just moved the home button to the back of the iPhone 8 and slightly slimmed down the bezels it would be getting trashed.
 
That has already been addressed ad nauseam. Not only does it get lost but it's another unneeded burden to manage. It's equivalent to not having a built in phone battery and having to always carry around an external battery pack with you and if you forget/gets lost your phone is useless.
I am just saying, you don't HAVE to use "exploding headphones" as was implied. I don't like what apple did, but one isn't foced to use wireless. Not yet.
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You're right, because the iphone 7 puts this thing to shame, bezels aren't everything.
To each their own. Samsung's AMOLED's have been ouytperforming Apple's LCDs recently (and maybe not so recently, IDK). Less bezel also means more pocketability and easier use. Pocketability and one handed use et mentioned a lot in these forums, so I figured it was worth pointing out why greatly reduced bezels might mean a lot to those folks. While I do personally think less bezel looks nicer, I cant really argue against a phone with a smaller footprint beind easier to handle and taking up less pocket space; those are just facts.

Something I just learned of today was DeX. Basically you can dock the phone and it become its own mini chromebook. This phone has likely become a competitor for me (and I have never owned a samsung product unless you count a flip phone a decade ago), at least as my work phone. I think we've reached a point where performance is reaching diminishing returns anyway. My wife's 7 isn't any better than my 6s plus in everyday use. By the looks of this, real world use should be up to par with any other flagship, though I am sure we will see benchmarks around the bend.
 
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