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on screen buttons (galaxy Nexus 2011)

are all Samsung first without any rumors of the iPhone having them.you are confusing wishful thinking with rumors.everything the galaxy has is what people rumor about apple doing because Samsung is doing it first.

That's it! I'm convinced! I'm switching to a Galaxy phone.

I am just saying, you don't HAVE to use "exploding headphones" as was implied. I don't like what apple did, but one isn't foced to use wireless. Not yet.
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To each their own. Samsung's AMOLED's have been ouytperforming Apple's LCDs recently (and maybe not so recently, IDK). Less bezel also means more pocketability and easier use. Pocketability and one handed use et mentioned a lot in these forums, so I figured it was worth pointing out why greatly reduced bezels might mean a lot to those folks. While I do personally think less bezel looks nicer, I cant really argue against a phone with a smaller footprint beind easier to handle and taking up less pocket space; those are just facts.

Something I just learned of today was DeX. Basically you can dock the phone and it become its own mini chromebook. This phone has likely become a competitor for me (and I have never owned a samsung product unless you count a flip phone a decade ago), at least as my work phone. I think we've reached a point where performance is reaching diminishing returns anyway. My wife's 7 isn't any better than my 6s plus in everyday use. By the looks of this, real world use should be up to par with any other flagship, though I am sure we will see benchmarks around the bend.

The 6S is faster than most Android flagships.
 
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Doh I was hoping for a higher resolution screen for VR. Well I guess its a wait to 2018 to see if they make the jump to a 4K screen (or maybe high refresh rate ?).
 
Thinking of switching from iPhone 6 Plus to S8 after been in Apple ecosystem for almost a decade.

I was wondering how easy it is to switch and how well Samsung phones are integrated with Mac OS X as I am not fully ready to switch the desktop.
What is it you are specifically worried about? It helps if you migrate things like contacts and calendar to google. I did that many years ago. Gooogle works with iOS and Android too.

Pictures and video should work exactly like they do now; your Mac should see it as a camera. Beyond that I would need to know what your needs are. Granted I am not an expert, but I have had an Android device for my work phone for a few years now.
 
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makes the size of the 7 plus look embarrassing next to the S8 plus

Maybe the size, but certainly not the design, the back of that thing is a mess.
 
GOOD LUCK! Every time I've switched to android, I've switched back within weeks due to the lack of integration. iMessage is easily the biggest loss, and trying to find a replacement for it is nearly impossible. Transferring files to a mac will sometimes work, sometimes not. Personally, I don't like Samsung phones because the design is frustrating and the duplicative apps are a pain in the ass. Go with something more stock like Moto Z or Pixel.... but don't sell your iPhone right away as you will probably come back to it as soon as you lose the new car smell.

Yes Messages with iMessage and SMS integration is a must feature. Doesn't Samsung have any app for Mac OS X that can provide similar feature?

The current apps on App Store which I would need to rebuy is one time expense. Handsoff for apps, I don't really use and the call quality is quite poor on Mac OS X.

Like Apple has iTunes on windows so that Windows users can use iPhone, doesn't Samsung has Mac OS apps to provide integration or they assume that their customer base is only using Windows or Linux?
 
The 6S is faster than most Android flagships.
In benchmarks thats great. I have a nexus 5x as my work phone and I can get everything I need done in the same amount of time. That phone didn't even launch the way most falgships do; with the top of the line hardware. It benchmarksembarassingly poorly when compared to everything else released that year, and some even before it.

My point was, the 7 even stomps the 6s on paper. In practice? Not so much. Not anywhere near like they used to year after year. Performance versus real world performance (sending off a text, loading emails, setting appointments, looking at a clandar, etc.) are very different things. I am talking from my end user perspective.
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Yes Messages with iMessage and SMS integration is a must feature. Doesn't Samsung have any app for Mac OS X that can provide similar feature?

The current apps on App Store which I would need to rebuy is one time expense. Handsoff for apps, I don't really use and the call quality is quite poor on Mac OS X.

Like Apple has iTunes on windows so that Windows users can use iPhone, doesn't Samsung has Mac OS apps to provide integration or they assume that their customer base is only using Windows or Linux?
You will not get imessage. You just won't. You will have to send things as SMS. I don't see this is a terrible thing, but some might. Aside from photo quality, your sms should look exactly like your imessages would.

There isn;t a specific samsung app for osx or windows, but that being an issue depends on what you are specifically wanting. I hav not used itunes since OTA updates were available on iOS because I find iTunes to be a means of solving a problem that doesn't exist; I have always been quite capable of file management and syncing is just a PITA. Music and movie files are a simple drag and drop on android, as is everything else really.
 
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Ok, call me an Apple fanboy, but here are my thoughts.

First off, I don't like larger screened phones. I've been accustomed to a 4 inch iPod touch (and before that a 3.5" one) and lately I've been using an iPhone 6 as a secondary wifi device. What in the world do these companies think they're doing by releasing a (more than 2x) DPI on a phone that is higher than the eye can easily distinguish? The massive edge to edge screen makes me worried that I'd be accidentally hitting things on the screen all the time, whereas the minimal bezel on the iPhones/iPod touches are plenty good to keep your fingers off the screen while you're holding it (especially one handed). Personally, one handed use is very important to me, and the fact this phone is large, and the finger print scanner is on the back of the phone makes it impossible to use if the phone is set on a table, which is very common to do.

Lastly, why move the finger print scanner to the back, but then make a dedicated button for the voice assistant?

Sorry, I just had to laugh at some of these decisions, and I really hope Apple doesn't do any of these later this year, just because "that's what the people want".

Totally agree about the bezels. Accidental presses and glare from the curved screen are enough to make me hate this design.

Moving the fingerprint reader/home-button to the rear are, IMO, ridiculous ideas. I never put my finger on the rear of the phone unless I am talking on it. During normal use I hold it on the edges with the rear of the phone resting on my palm. Obviously, the combination of curved screen, and reader on the back will make for some ugly cases - if they can even pull it off.

It seems like most of the comments I have read here are focused on the looks of the phone, and I don't understand sacrificing usability for looks. The curved screen (glare, glare, glare), and the rear fingerprint reader make this a swing and a miss (for me). I just recently played with a curved screen phone, and hated it.

From a "beauty" perspective, this phone knocks it out of the park.

I buy my phone based on usability first, and looks second. I'm hoping that Apple does not copy this design from Samsung.
 
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Can Apple really release the iPhone 7S with those huge bezels and home button? Wow. There had better be an iPhone 8 with a redesign.

You would think that and I'm hoping there is, but in my mind I'm picturing Tim's smug grin when he introduces the best iPhone ever...the 7s and nothing else. There will definitely be a reckoning if that happens this year.
 
Totally agree about the bezels. Accidental presses and glare from the curved screen are enough to make me hate this design.

Moving the fingerprint reader/home-button to the rear are, IMO, ridiculous ideas. I never put my finger on the rear of the phone unless I am talking on it. During normal use I hold it on the edges with the rear of the phone resting on my palm. Obviously, the combination of curved screen, and reader on the back will make for some ugly cases - if they can even pull it off.

It seems like most of the comments I have read here are focused on the looks of the phone, and I don't understand sacrificing usability for looks. The curved screen (glare, glare, glare), and the rear fingerprint reader make this a swing and a miss (for me). I just recently played with a curved screen phone, and hated it.

From a "beauty" perspective, this phone knocks it out of the park.

I buy my phone based on usability first, and looks second. I'm hoping that Apple does not copy this design from Samsung.
I thought the same about a fingerprint reader on the back of a phone until I tried it (Nexys 5x). It really isn't bad. They do make cases for othe "edge to edge" devices, so I don't imagine that would be an issue. There are actually cases you can look at right now (I just saw a best buy ad). Speck candyshell, and some others. Reviewers are aying that the endge to edge aspect is less of a problem than i was with previous models in terms of accidetnal presses. I couldn't say, I haven't used one at all, even of the older variety. With tech, tough, I usually find that things I expect to be issues almost never are, and then things I never would've thought of creep up lol.
 
Galaxy S8 series is more for the business and advanced users while iPhone offers a more basic experience for the average user.

 
Apple better have a good answer to this. Looks fantastic.

Raise the price by several hundred dollars, sandbox it with IOS and slap an Apple logo on it. Remove some key features so people continue to argue if Apple is right or not. Done.
 
Galaxy S8 series is more for the business and advanced users while iPhone offers a more basic experience for the average user.


That's certainly cool... but I'm wondering who will actually go for it.

Assuming you have a monitor, keyboard and mouse on your desk already... that means there's already a working computer hooked to it. So what happens to it?

Is your Android phone really going to replace that computer?
 
I wish HTC or one of the other manufacturers would come out with something like this, I refuse to purchase Samsung on principle. I'm pretty sure the iPhone 8 is going to be pretty awesome, though.

You would think that and I'm hoping there is, but in my mind I'm picturing Tim's smug grin when he introduces the best iPhone ever...the 7s and nothing else. There will definitely be a reckoning if that happens this year.

Rumours suggest that there's a pretty big redesign coming this year.
 
Don't know why people call that beautiful. It could be but it's not. Those rounded edges and corners...
 
You're right, because the iphone 7 puts this thing to shame, bezels aren't everything.
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I have faith Apple won't be stupid enough to make the corners of the screen round or the edges curved.

This is a S7 with a moved home button and slimmer bezels. If Apple just moved the home button to the back of the iPhone 8 and slightly slimmed down the bezels it would be getting trashed.

You're right, iPhone puts any Android to shame for technically illiterate people. When anyone over 50 asks me what phone to get my answer is iPhone 100% of the time. It's fool proof.
 
Bixby? Just what the world's been waiting for. All the same, hats off to them on creating a phone based on Apple rumors before Apple could. They'll be able to refine it when they see the actual innovation in the next iPhone.
 
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Looks nice. I'd consider it if I wasn't so heavily (and happily) sunk in the Apple environment (iPhone, iPad, iMac, Watch, Airpods, Apple Pay, which works great). But everything works well as is, so I'll stick with what I have and wait for the next iPhone. The big turnoff for me with the S8 is Android. Played with it a few times and just didn't like it enough to want to stick with it.
 
That's certainly cool... but I'm wondering who will actually go for it.

Assuming you have a monitor, keyboard and mouse on your desk already... that means there's already a working computer hooked to it. So what happens to it?

Is your Android phone really going to replace that computer?
I think it will. Unified device is the future. For now having a monitor implies you already have a computer, but in the future people would just get a "phone" and a display with a mouse if they need a home computer experience.

Samsung is following Microsoft here and it's impressive what they just did with Android. Unified OS is better (as Microsoft does with its Windows), so I'm wondering what will be an Apple's reply. If they go Samsung way, stretching iOS to the big screen then that may become a mess, confusing to users, developers and it will cut Mac sales. But it doesn't look like they are going to unify iOS and OS X into a single system either, like Microsoft does. Certainly they wouldn't be able to marry two operating systems elegantly while Cook is in charge.
 
I don't have these problems. Apple TV is flawless as is my Extreme, Apple Watch, iPads, Mac, and iPhones. Sounds like user error or a Samsung fanboy that never actually owned what he states.

I never had FaceTime disappear or crap battery life after an update. The fact that they just released a new file system that was a flawless install for millions of people is amazing.

If Samsung is so freaking wonderful, buy one and enjoy Touch Wiz and few if any OS updates.
Millions of people had those problems. Look up Apple class actions.

I have owned, interacted with or managed hundreds of Apple devices since 1999.

Is your sample size limited to 4 or 5 toys you have bought yourself in the last 18 months?

I said nothing positive about Samsung and ma unqualified to comment on that brand.
 
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Bixby? Just what the world's been waiting for. All the same, hats off to them on creating a phone based on Apple rumors before Apple could. They'll be able to refine it when they see the actual innovation in the next iPhone.

Really? The design is all Samsung's, they've been doing the curved screen for awhile and slimming the bezels isn't an Apple idea. Apple hasn't done anything innovating in terms of design in a long time but suddenly Samsung is copying a phone that hasn't even been made yet. Wow.
 
In benchmarks thats great. I have a nexus 5x as my work phone and I can get everything I need done in the same amount of time. That phone didn't even launch the way most falgships do; with the top of the line hardware. It benchmarksembarassingly poorly when compared to everything else released that year, and some even before it.

My point was, the 7 even stomps the 6s on paper. In practice? Not so much. Not anywhere near like they used to year after year. Performance versus real world performance (sending off a text, loading emails, setting appointments, looking at a clandar, etc.) are very different things. I am talking from my end user perspective.
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You will not get imessage. You just won't. You will have to send things as SMS. I don't see this is a terrible thing, but some might. Aside from photo quality, your sms should look exactly like your imessages would.

There isn;t a specific samsung app for osx or windows, but that being an issue depends on what you are specifically wanting. I hav not used itunes since OTA updates were available on iOS because I find iTunes to be a means of solving a problem that doesn't exist; I have always been quite capable of file management and syncing is just a PITA. Music and movie files are a simple drag and drop on android, as is everything else really.

Nexus 5X. I don't believe you. You don't care about performance. That's fine.
 
That's certainly cool... but I'm wondering who will actually go for it.

Assuming you have a monitor, keyboard and mouse on your desk already... that means there's already a working computer hooked to it. So what happens to it?

Is your Android phone really going to replace that computer?

Eventually, I am sure it could. But prob not for you. But for MY sister it could. She bought a full laptop last year, but she really only needs the power of a chromebook. If they sell laptops that are all battery and a slot for the phone I think she would be all set. I could also see this working well for computer labs that want a cheap way to add more desk stations. It will never be a game station, nor will it replace a pro device.

That's not the real issue though. The issue is getting people used to thinking that it is a computer. It's do able, but I think they should have launched this over a 3 year period. I also think they should have teamed up with Apple to set a standard for connectivity. Let the hardware that connects to the keyboard and mouse be universal, and they can battle it out with the OS.

Also, the dock is stupid. They should have made the option of using the phone as the mouse with a single wire that splits to accept the keyboard, monitor, and a USB 3.1/C. Said wire should also be included in box. It's a cool feature, but first you have to get the solution popular enought that corps like Dell, HP, and LG want to add the feature to their hardware.
 
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