Samsung Unveils Galaxy S8 and S8+ With Iris and Facial Recognition, No Home Button

[symphara]

Nah, a lot of people want handouts.

Sure, but there's a world of difference between "a lot" and "everybody". A lot of people work very hard. More than the ones wanting handouts.

Sure the iPhone has a large market share. It's still more attractive than an Android phone.

I think it's a matter of taste. To me iPhones are just ugly. And the choice is too small screens with huge bezels (ridiculous 4" or 4.7"), or a large screen with huge bezels. Awful, really.

On another note, when I see someone with an Android phone, I automatically associate that with poor traits vs. when I see someone with an iPhone.

When I see someone with an iPhone, without exception, it's a case of that person being technically illiterate or fairly shallow combined with an excessive care about status signalling. I don't mind the first category - after all, most people are technically illiterate - but I don't make friends with the second. Frankly, I despise them. Android offers more functionality and far more device choice at better prices (in some cases, much better, if you don't buy immediately after release and shop around).

 

[Asuriyan]

Nah, a lot of people want handouts.

Sure the iPhone has a large market share. It's still more attractive than an Android phone. And yeah, a lot of people can afford it, but I was referring more to an expensive watch. I bet 98-99% of people on this forum cannot afford a nice Rolex. And that's fine, but having one is an accomplishment in and of itself, because again, most people don't have one. Notice, I didn't say they "can't". I simply said they don't, either because of poor money management, or poor education, etc. Anyone can work for something nice. But when you get it, it feels nice.

On another note, when I see someone with an Android phone, I automatically associate that with poor traits vs. when I see someone with an iPhone.

Sorry, but there is nothing at all exclusive about iPhone ownership anymore. A comparison between a $5000 watch and a phone used by my 8 year old niece is spurious at best.

 

[MrX8503]

go look at any other official 7.0 nougat tests on the exynos gs7.they have improved performance at least 30% over marshmallow.

the exynos gs8 scored 205k in AnTuTu is that not a top performer? it's 25k points higher than the iPhone and also pushing double the pixels

AnTuTu isn't as granular as Geekbench.

Like I said, I take benchmarks with a grain of salt. Especially since Android phones have been shown to cheat on benchmarks.

Use it as guidance, but don't count on it.

 

[HickDead]

I think what @HickDead is saying that Samsung has already released technology that Apple is planning on releasing, when Apple has used the same physical design for over three years now with LED. It's not to say that one for manufacture does things better than the other, because they both have their advantages and disadvantages. But Samsung has already introduced OLED, curved display, reduce bezels, integrated home button, etc. Point is, Samsung doesn't necessarily do things better, I think they just are a step ahead of Apple and it's not much of a secret. But that doesn't mean that Apple doesn't do things "Different."


And truthfully from the marketing standpoint, I don't think Samsung is nearly as aggressive marketing their devices as much as Apple does. I would say Samsung focus is more of marketing their TVs then they do their phones. At least in terms of what you see in the media and posted through various tech websites. I believe Apple spends the most on their marketing. I Can't recall exactly when I read this, but Apple was leading in expenditure with marketing the iPhone over any other manufacture.

Great post! I was just pointing out the fact that Samsung does it "first" but like you mentioned it doesn't mean that it's better. I actually like Apple's approach. Take something already out there and perfect it. That's what makes them the gold standard of smartphones.

 

[grkm3]

AnTuTu isn't as granular as Geekbench.

Like I said, I take benchmarks with a grain of salt. Especially since Android phones have been shown to cheat on benchmarks.

Use it as guidance, but don't count on it.

curious what you will say when the iPhone 8 comes out and tops the gs8 in antutu

 

[gaximus]

No one wants to bother leaking worthless, un-newsworthy information.

But yet they do, all the time. I'm just surprised that they had this thing in production long enough to get them at almost all apple stores and no one leaked it.

 

[9081094]

Absolutely none of those things matter to me, so no, it is not even remotely a joke. Thanks.
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LOL. Nope.

I'm curious what does matter for you because I can honestly not see a possibility Apple is ahead.

 

[Sefstah]

Lets stop complaining and just buy an S8 already!!

 

[6foot5foot]

Really beautiful looking device, hope apple brings something like this September

If, by "something like this", you mean a flat slab with glass at the front, then yes - they certainly will. That is where the parallels end, thankfully for Apple.

 

[6foot5foot]

Lets stop complaining and just buy an S8 already!!

Okay, I'll send in my bulk purchase order and bill it to you; that suit you ok?

 

[admob71]

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On another note, when I see someone with an Android phone, I automatically associate that with poor traits vs. when I see someone with an iPhone.

I think in one sentence that you encompass everything that is bad about Apple fans!!!

 

[6foot5foot]

2017 is calling.

... but you can't answer as you're jogging in the rain, your phone is in your pocket and you've lost your lightning to 3.5mm dongle...

 

[yourtoys7]

Hardware is A+++
software/ user experience Fail+ (I have tried S4, S6, S7) and absolutely love the hardware, but the most I could last is 5 weeks, software and user experience is horrible.

 

[leroypants]

I'm hoping that is sarcasm because otherwise I'm betting you are the type that held onto a flip phone for as long as possible.

Sounds more like a person who decides how they want to use and what they want in a device rather than buying a device for a logo while being told how to use it. Maybe that person doesn't want to carry a pocket full of dongles just to make a phone do what they want.

 

[leroypants]

2017 is calling.

Maybe he likes to charge his phone and listen using headphones at the same time, or maybe he doesn't want useless lightning headphones which won't work in brand new MacBooks....

 

[6foot5foot]

Sure, but there's a world of difference between "a lot" and "everybody". A lot of people work very hard. More than the ones wanting handouts.


I think it's a matter of taste. To me iPhones are just ugly. And the choice is too small screens with huge bezels (ridiculous 4" or 4.7"), or a large screen with huge bezels. Awful, really.


When I see someone with an iPhone, without exception, it's a case of that person being technically illiterate or fairly shallow combined with an excessive care about status signalling. I don't mind the first category - after all, most people are technically illiterate - but I don't make friends with the second. Frankly, I despise them. Android offers more functionality and far more device choice at better prices (in some cases, much better, if you don't buy immediately after release and shop around).

You sound like a great person to not be a friend with. You actually take time to judge people based on what PHONE they use?

 

[Sefstah]

Okay, I'll send in my bulk purchase order and bill it to you; that suit you ok?

No. Buy your own.

 

[6foot5foot]

No. Buy your own.

I won't be buying any phone by Samsung, never have. Apple make tools, Samsung make toys.

 

[Dirtfarmer]

when I see someone with an Android phone, I automatically associate that with poor traits vs. when I see someone with an iPhone.

When I see someone with an iPhone, sometimes I see someone who is new to technology and needs it to be simplified and streamlined because they have a hard time adapting to more complex and powerful controls.

Note that iOS is falling out of favour with the younger generation: The people who grew up with digital tools rather than having to learn them as adults.

Steve was amazing at making devices for "digital immigrants" -- people who had to adapt partway through their lives.

Fewer buttons, fewer functions, no need to customize or personalize or even understand. More predictability, more analogous to a physical tool.

What Apple has collectively forgotten is that the next generation already knows how to wipe their own butts and does not require any help from mommy or daddy.

 

[thekeyring]

I would agree with you in almost any market except technology.

Tech consumers are fickle and move as a herd.

Technologies are obsoleted on a moment's notice and the giants are slain by tiny upstarts.

Technology is a David and Goliath world, and you are arguing that Goliath is too big to fail.
[doublepost=1490886037][/doublepost]The man who invented the toilet went broke and was then jailed for debts.

It's a perfect analogy.

No it's not. I don't buy the argument Apple aren't being innovative.

 

[MrX8503]

curious what you will say when the iPhone 8 comes out and tops the gs8 in antutu

I've never used AnTuTu

 

[Dirtfarmer]

Hardware is A+++
software/ user experience Fail+ (I have tried S4, S6, S7) and absolutely love the hardware, but the most I could last is 5 weeks, software and user experience is horrible.

There is no such thing as "intuitive" in computer UX.

There is only what you are accustomed to.

When I use an iPhone I hate the lack of a back button, the lack of split screen, the lack of user settings, the lack of control. It does what it wants, not what you want, and if it doesn't do something it's because you don't need it.

But I don't see this as bad, only "different from what I am used to".

If I had to, I could adapt to this Fisher Price approach to UX. Fortunately I don't have to!

 

[H2SO4]

"Please realize that I'm right and you're wrong, and then change your opinion accordingly."

Sure. No problem.

Look, I'm just saying that Samsung takes/has taken its design direction from Apple (and, historically, others) and the fact that they jumped in with their full-bezel, buttonless, face-recognizing, candy bar smartphone just before Apple did doesn't mean they didn't copy anything.

Great but what’s to say Samsung haven't got all that already as prototypes in house, and have had for years?

 

[Dirtfarmer]

No it's not. I don't buy the argument Apple aren't being innovative.

The last time they disrupted a market was a decade ago.

By disrupt, I mean what they did for the home computer, for music, for mobile phones and tablets. iMac, iPod+iTunes, iOS+app store. World changing technologies from a formerly world-changing company.

They did things like that constantly during the entire time that Steve was at the helm.

Now what. The watch thing didn't disrupt wearables. Which are ripe for the taking.

Homekit and Healthkit didn't disrupt or dominate home automation or healthcare. Again, crying out for a genius like Steve.

In the meantime, their accountant king decided to quit the pro market, (!!!), and quit the server market!

And their attempt at automotive was stillborn. Another fail.

They've spent 10 years coasting on Steve's genius. 10 years of tweaking old paradigms.

And due to smart billion-dollar companies playing catch-up, Apple are no longer shipping the most amazing hardware in any category or the most amazing software. They're shipping really good products but they are no longer leaps and bounds ahead.

This is not a strategy for remaining the most valuable corporation on the planet. They need another visionary.

 

[grkm3]

I've never used AnTuTu

so you only bring up testing in what apple does good in?

I thought you wanted the most powerful and highest performing chip? you do know the gs8 will have the most powerful GPU in any phone until the next gen iPhone comes out right.