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Samsung Unveils Galaxy S8 and S8+ With Iris and Facial Recognition, No Home Button

I was of the same mind as both of you until this thought occurred to me -- if the iris/face recognition is reliable enough, and secure enough, then nobody will want to use the fingerprint scanner anymore. And if I wanted to wean people off of fingerprint scanners, I'd make it harder for them to use, but retain it as a failsafe until the iris/face recognition integration was flawless. If customers have no reason not to keep using the old fingerprint technology, then there's no incentive to start using, and thereby improving, the iris/face recognition tech. So this makes perfect sense. Move the fingerprint sensor to the back, thus making it harder to use, and encouraging the customer to use the new, preferred, alternate methods to unlock their phone which don't require any additional physical hardware.

morcutt11 said:
Great looking phone, but... I have an LG with the fingerprint sensor on the back and it is a pain. It is much easier to use when it is on the front like my iPhone. At least Samsung didn't integrate the volume buttons with it - half the time I think I'm hitting the fingerprint sensor on the LG and I'm actually hitting the volume down button. Also, I don't know if I see the viability of being able to connect a keyboard and monitor to it. Unless it is offering full desktop versions of applications, you're just turning it into a tethered tablet. I can use my tablet for that...
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Slix said:
Ok, call me an Apple fanboy, but here are my thoughts.

First off, I don't like larger screened phones. I've been accustomed to a 4 inch iPod touch (and before that a 3.5" one) and lately I've been using an iPhone 6 as a secondary wifi device. What in the world do these companies think they're doing by releasing a (more than 2x) DPI on a phone that is higher than the eye can easily distinguish? The massive edge to edge screen makes me worried that I'd be accidentally hitting things on the screen all the time, whereas the minimal bezel on the iPhones/iPod touches are plenty good to keep your fingers off the screen while you're holding it (especially one handed). Personally, one handed use is very important to me, and the fact this phone is large, and the home button/finger print scanner is on the back of the phone makes it impossible to use if the phone is set on a table, which is very common to do.

Lastly, why move the home button to the back, but then make a dedicated button for the voice assistant?

Sorry, I just had to laugh at some of these decisions, and I really hope Apple doesn't do any of these later this year, just because "that's what the people want".
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Hibbidyhai said:
Not a fan of having the finger print sensor on the back of the phone. The dual bluetooth feature is nice though.
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spacemnspiff said:
Nice looking phone, mostly all aesthetics, dont functionally improve experience. These are the downsides for me.

  • Fingerprint sensor in the back, horrible ergonomics
  • Why doesn't Samsung phone use a Samsung processor - Exynos - this is not confidence inspiring
  • No 3D touch like functionality - I love that feature on my iPhone
  • No dual cameras - Samsung was not able to develop software (software not Samsung's forte) for DOF processing
  • Paltry 4GB RAM
  • What happened to the 'Edge' screen hype
  • Samsung software comes with redundant functions that compete with native Android
  • Non standard aspect ratio of the display - developers nightmare
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Nice looking phone, mostly all aesthetics, dont functionally improve experience. These are the downsides for me.

  • Fingerprint sensor in the back, horrible ergonomics, iris scanner security questionable
  • Why doesn't Samsung phone use a Samsung processor - Exynos - this is not confidence inspiring
  • No 3D touch like functionality - I love that feature on my iPhone
  • No dual cameras - Samsung was not able to develop software (software not Samsung's forte) for DOF processing
  • Paltry 4GB RAM
  • What happened to the 'Edge' screen hype
  • Samsung software comes with redundant functions that compete with native Android
  • Non standard aspect ratio of the display - developers nightmare
 
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McCool71 said:
The home button is on the front, the fingerprint reader is on the back. Remember it can also be unlocked using your face or iris, making the day-to-day use of the fingerprint reader less important for most.
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Face recognition is not completely secure. Anyone can use your photos or videos of your selfie to unlock and purchase stuff online. I see Samsung still adding gimmick features without fully testing.
 
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Slix said:
Ok, call me an Apple fanboy, but here are my thoughts.

First off, I don't like larger screened phones. I've been accustomed to a 4 inch iPod touch (and before that a 3.5" one) and lately I've been using an iPhone 6 as a secondary wifi device. What in the world do these companies think they're doing by releasing a (more than 2x) DPI on a phone that is higher than the eye can easily distinguish? The massive edge to edge screen makes me worried that I'd be accidentally hitting things on the screen all the time, whereas the minimal bezel on the iPhones/iPod touches are plenty good to keep your fingers off the screen while you're holding it (especially one handed). Personally, one handed use is very important to me, and the fact this phone is large, and the home button/finger print scanner is on the back of the phone makes it impossible to use if the phone is set on a table, which is very common to do.

Lastly, why move the home button to the back, but then make a dedicated button for the voice assistant?

Sorry, I just had to laugh at some of these decisions, and I really hope Apple doesn't do any of these later this year, just because "that's what the people want".
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I'm also an iPhone and general Apple user, I hope that Apple remove the bezels from the next iPhone. I can't deny that the S8 and S8 Plus look really nice, Samsung have stepped up however I don't like the fingerprint button on the back it's a silly place to put it and it runs Andriod as well as Samungs TouchWiz and other bloat ware that will come with it. If Apple do remove the bezels they will more than likely use the technology that's in the iPad so that when you touch the side at the same time as somewhere else it won't register your fingers.
 
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Slix said:
Ok, call me an Apple fanboy, but here are my thoughts.

First off, I don't like larger screened phones. I've been accustomed to a 4 inch iPod touch (and before that a 3.5" one) and lately I've been using an iPhone 6 as a secondary wifi device. What in the world do these companies think they're doing by releasing a (more than 2x) DPI on a phone that is higher than the eye can easily distinguish? The massive edge to edge screen makes me worried that I'd be accidentally hitting things on the screen all the time, whereas the minimal bezel on the iPhones/iPod touches are plenty good to keep your fingers off the screen while you're holding it (especially one handed). Personally, one handed use is very important to me, and the fact this phone is large, and the home button/finger print scanner is on the back of the phone makes it impossible to use if the phone is set on a table, which is very common to do.

Lastly, why move the home button to the back, but then make a dedicated button for the voice assistant?

Sorry, I just had to laugh at some of these decisions, and I really hope Apple doesn't do any of these later this year, just because "that's what the people want".
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Seems you're looking for arguments to justify Apple's ancient approach, lol.
 
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JPIS said:
True again - They wear these things called jeans & regular pants. Oh, it also fits in a normal shirt pocket. I know - amazing - Try it - you'll like it. :p
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Not all of use are fatties who consider 2xl shirts and 46x34 jeans "regular" :D.


Oh just tried a coworkers iphone 7plus tablet and nope doesn't fit :p
 
KazKam said:
Once again, Samsung taking every rumor for the iPhone and smashing it in quickly just to beat Apple
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Really? You think someone designs and manufactures a phone in a couple of months based on rumors? Djeezus...

All manufacturers have already laid the groundwork for their 2018-releases by now. This, and every other phone released the next few months, have been largely finalized for months already.
 
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I probably will be the next Apple iPhone even if it just has a faster CPU and better camera. I am stuck in the eco system and will continue to purchase tech that was dreamed up by people like Tim Cook and his cost cutting ideas for Apple.
 
Touchwiz. Gawd awful Touchwiz. I could only handle that for 5 months on the S7 Edge and had to get rid of it.
 
itguy06 said:
Using another Android phone with 4GB and an equally high resolution screen it's fine. Faster than my previous iPhone 6+ by a large margin.



Recently fired up my old Samsung Galaxy S5 and it was faster than my iPhone 6+ in every day tasks. Given that the GS5 was OLDER than the iP6+ I don't know how people say it is faster. Maybe on benchmarks but not in use.



7.0 is quite good and better than iOS 10 in many areas.



It does look good. I'd buy one but I'm over super expensive phones. My $400 Axon 7 is a neat phone and has many of these features already.
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I think Cook & Greed will have a restless night :cool:
 
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Splatt123 said:
You realise every presentation is scripted, right?

A little worse than, say, Tim Cook's presentations and Steve Jobs was the master, but Apple presentations not a whole lot better these days.
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Apple keynote had been 30 mins shorter than usual.
 
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admob71 said:
So the best camera phone currently out there, I. E. The s7 has only marginally been improved lol, so it's even more the best camera phone. Brilliant..
Plus Bixby is brand new so how can it be underwhelming as previous?
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Oops didn't mean to say Bixby was underwhelming as it's not out yet, meant S Voice. Don't have faith in Samsung services. Bixby has only introduced one new thing as far as I can tell, which is the pointing the camera at an object to search the web or whatever.

As for camera, the S7 has a great camera no doubt about it but it's certainly being matched or bettered in photo quality now and video recording has always been better on the iPhone than any other device bar maybe the Pixel.
 
Cloudkicker said:
So I can make an Antennagate/"You're holding it wrong" sarcastic comment in almost the 4th month of 2017 & be a super cool comedian like you?! Neato!
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None of those problems caused someone to die or prevent you from boarding an airplane. Does that sound sarcastic?
 
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