Not completely. Some are made in Korea, some in China and some in Vietnam and perhaps others (did not look through the whole thread). This is for the Note:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357913
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Not completely. Some are made in Korea, some in China and some in Vietnam and perhaps others (did not look through the whole thread). This is for the Note:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357913
Well iPhones are made in China or Brazil anyhow... who's using the cheaper labor ? Who cares really ?
Samsung releases several new models a year to give consumer choices and uptoday technology. While Apple releases only one already outdated model in 16 month, with tiny incremental differences between each other
List some non incremental differences between the most recent Samsung models.
You have to explain why I'm wrong, pal. Saying "WRONG!" with no explanation makes you look silly. Does Samsung or any oem update the os in a timely manner?
This one is easy: Wrong.
Your link itself says they don't know why the galaxy was picked, but you extrapolated that to mean it was because of it's design? Why, pal?
huh? What does number of patents have to do with this? You could own one million and i can own one and if you infringe on my one you'd get in trouble. this isn't a pissing contest.
Cliffs notes: Wrong.
Saturn88 does.
Hint: if people disagree with you, it does not mean that they are wrong. In fact, with your attitude, most likely it means that you are wrong. Out of curiosity, I just checked the boxes for our Galaxy S, Galaxy SII and Galaxy Nexus. All boxes say "Phone Made in Korea". Where did you think they were made, in USA? The fact that some cheap phones are assembled in China does not mean that all phones nowadays are assembled there.
They don't talk about market share per se, but the underlying logic used in the arguments is the same. Marketshare and sales are both using the number of people buying a product in order to argue for that product's popularity and therefore superiority.
When people say that Android is x% of the market, they're appealing to the fact that Android is more ubiquitous and therefore more liked than iOS. When Apple fans talk about how the the top selling phones were the 4S and 4, they're talking about the "marketshare" that the iPhone has compared to other phones.
Also, when considering the iPad, they do talk market share. It's okay though because I don't expect that many people to have enough intellectual integrity to be consistent in their arguments, on both the Apple and Android side.
Yeah i guess they talk marketshare with ipad, but difference is iPad owns sales and marketshare there and as much as some don't want to admit it, there really is NO tablet market, it's ipad or bust. With the phones, its the whole three hundred vs three thing that makes the Android marketshare skewed. It's not Apple against Android. It's apple vs Samsung, Apple vs htc, Apple vs Motorola etc.
For some reason, people act as if Samsung, htc, and Motorola are colluding to beat Apple. Android marketshare is a pointless stat. To top it off though, Apple STILL beats them all in the us for two quarters. Why pretend like that's not absolutely impressive?
I did not say Samsung makes non incremental differences. But it makes incremental differences every couple of month which makes sence. Apple makes incremental differences every 16 month, which is a silly joke
Yes, it does. I had 3 updates in 6 month. So you are WRONG.
"You have to explain why I'm wrong, pal. Saying WRONG! with no explanation makes you look silly" (didn't you say that?). "Made in Korea" - that 's what's printed on Galaxy packaging, phone and battery. Everything else you could only speculate. But iPhone is "made in China" by workers who live on bunk beds
"A gorgeous looking phone with slick operation, the S II also features the best camera on any smartphone to date, great integration with Samsung’s TVs and other kit..."
In theory you, could, in practice (if you are not delusional) your "rectangle with rounded corners" will be eventually invalidated. Samsung is the second (only to IBM) patent holding company and it owns real technologies so it could sue your ass over and over. After all, Steve Jobs was the one who said "Great artists steal". So Apple does steals while pointing fingers
You are thoroughly misinformed. You need to try to read something else in addition to MacRumors and Apple Insider. Here is a quote from yesterday's article on CNET:
Android has staged a healthy lead over Apple's iOS as the smartphone wars continue.
Looking at the first quarter of the year, NPD Group pegged Android's U.S. market share at 61 percent, a jump over the 49 percent recorded in last year's fourth quarter.
On the flip side, iOS lost ground with a 29 percent market share, down from 41 percent during 2011's final quarter.
I did not say Samsung makes non incremental differences. But it makes incremental differences every couple of month which makes sence. Apple makes incremental differences every 16 month, which is a silly joke
Name the non incremental differences
I'm talking about os versions, not the bugfixes that every Android device desperately needs.
"You have to explain why I'm wrong, pal. Saying WRONG! with no explanation makes you look silly" (didn't you say that?). "Made in Korea" - that 's what's printed on Galaxy packaging, phone and battery. Everything else you could only speculate. But iPhone is "made in China" by workers who live on bunk beds
Wrong, do a little research, Samsung phones are made everywhere not just Korea, and including China.
That's the author of the articles opinion and NOT the reason it won the award
In theory you, could, in practice (if you are not delusional) your "rectangle with rounded corners" will be eventually invalidated. Samsung is the second (only to IBM) patent holding company and it owns real technologies so it could sue your ass over and over. After all, Steve Jobs was the one who said "Great artists steal". So Apple does steals while pointing fingers
It's not in theory, it's in fact. If you violate one of my legit patents you'll pay for it.
We're talking about the carriers where iPhone is available obviously.... http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/0...ll-android-phones-combined-at-sprint-and-att/
will be picking one up ASAP. I have the S2 International version. Will pick up a Carrier Branded S3 and put some custom roms on my S2.
"You have to explain why I'm wrong, pal. Saying WRONG! with no explanation makes you look silly" (didn't you say that?). "Made in Korea" - that 's what's printed on Galaxy packaging, phone and battery. Everything else you could only speculate. But iPhone is "made in China" by workers who live on bunk beds
I don't think that this is the right avenue to go down if you want to have an argument: http://blogs.computerworld.com/19941/not_just_apple_working_life_at_the_samsung_iphone_factory
Here's a key takeaway from the article:
Something interesting about the NPD report:
Sales from AT&T, Verizon and Sprint obviously do not include numbers from all other providers including T-Mobile. They also do not include sales by Radio Shack, Wal-Mart, BestBuy, Apple, Amazon etc. comScore data (actual users) correlate with the data from NPD (total sales).
I think you're missing the point: Apple had 63% of activations on the big three networks. These three networks are approximately 80% of the US smartphone market. This means as a whole Apple sold 50% of the smartphones sold in the US last quarter.
I'm not sure what you mean by the retail location as it does not matter, the carrier reports it as an activation regardless of where it was sold.
That's a stretch, and an incorrect one. If Amazon sells it, does the user sign up for Amazon wireless? No. it's still a customer for whatever carrier the user signs up with.
I think you need to stop reading droidforums and droidlife and actually look at the numbers instead of blindly believing everything pro android. IPhone outsold every carrier in the us combined vs Android two quarters in a row.
Hint: Samsung does make phones in China as well as Korea as well as other countries.
Hint two: i don't know why we're only talking about Samsung in regards to this. My original statement about cheap Chinese labor was about Android as a whole. Both htc and Motorola also make phones in China.
Hint three: with your attitude, most likely it means you will never admit that you're wrong.
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IPhone 5!!
Let's all hope Apple sees the competition and renovate the new iPhone in the upcoming years!
Let's all hope Apple sees the competition and renovate the new iPhone in the upcoming years!
The problem with that is... for the sake of integrity in your arguments, you cannot talk marketshare with tablets and disregard them with phones or operating systems. There has to be consistency. I don't care even if the iPad has 99% of marketshare and sales... using the "it's true but it's a different scenario" caveat doesn't work; it's a weak rebuttal if that because all that you're really doing is manipulating the facts to support your argument.
Plus, if you really want to get technical about it, in the tablet market, it's also: Apple vs Samsung, Apple vs Amazon, Apple vs Acer, Apple vs Asus, Apple vs Barnes&Noble, Apple vs Dell, Apple vs Lenovo, Apple vs Motorola, Apple vs Toshiba, Apple vs Sony, Apple vs RIM... and that's just the name brand competitors. It's not exactly a competitor-less market....
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No you're right there should be consistency, but in ipads case it's just such a forgone conclusion that ipad is on top, talking about marketshare there is pretty pointless to imo.
Sales are king. That's been true since the beginning of time
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I haven't read the OP, none of the posts but I can't hold myself from dropping this.
When I think of Android, I see unknown errors popping up. I don't know why. I just do.
But when I think of Apple and iOS, I feel unique. I don't know why. I feel privileged to own @me.com Buying tunes and apps on iTunes and knowing that they will always be mine.
I feel tied to Apple.inc
I just can't think the same for any other manufacturers.
They do their best to RETAIN their customers like tossing at Apple with ridiculous advertising campaigns. On the other hand Apple does nothing to ATTRACT new customers but their numbers are constantly increasing.
BTW, don't you guys think that moving from Android to iOS feels normal but iOS to Android sounds retarded? Honestly, it actually does. Doesn't it?
Happy with Apple. Didn't fuss about Samsung when I used their phones but I just don't think I will ever go back to Android unless...Well I don't know...
When I think of Android, I see unknown errors popping up. I don't know why. I just do.
But when I think of Apple and iOS, I feel unique. I don't know why. I feel privileged to own @me.com Buying tunes and apps on iTunes and knowing that they will always be mine.
I feel tied to Apple.inc
I just can't think the same for any other manufacturers.
They do their best to RETAIN their customers like tossing at Apple with ridiculous advertising campaigns. On the other hand Apple does nothing to ATTRACT new customers but their numbers are constantly increasing.
BTW, don't you guys think that moving from Android to iOS feels normal but iOS to Android sounds retarded? Honestly, it actually does. Doesn't it?
Happy with Apple. Didn't fuss about Samsung when I used their phones but I just don't think I will ever go back to Android unless...Well I don't know...
Samsung is releasing a Windows phone called the Focus 2 which I think is one of their best looking phones so far. It's actually a lesser priced device.
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Good points made though my biggest issue is lumping in a dozen companies running android on hundreds of devices against apple. Businesses don't ever look at data that way. The only people who might ever care about that information in terms of running their business is google. It is not useful to anyone else. There are apple numbers people couch that are equally as worthless when it comes to the data people are looking at. The guiltiest parties are the analysts themselves who spend most their time publishing irrelevant information. Add in different reporting and accounting methods and who knows.
The only fact I believe with near certainty is apple had the top three selling smartphones in 2011. Anything else seems muddied at best.
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That is the problem, apple is the only one reporting sales. If any oem achieved anything to best apple in any way their pr departments would shout it from the rooftops. Almost all the android oems used to release sales data but seemingly stopped from embarssement. It does seem in some cases some manufacturers game analysts who rely on shipping numbers as well
This would be easy to resolve if the oems went back to publishing accurate data. Problem is when you have one phone sell a few million and twenty others sell under 100k it can potentially be viewed negatively especially when all your competitors units sell 10,15,20 million.
As many others have noted there are dozens of mitigating factors that influence what phone a person buys. When those factors are removed and people choose ios or android, everyone chooses ios.
In a perfect world, yes, but you can't make a statement like this and expect to be taken seriously.
I sympathize because I would choose iOS if it could be run on an EVO or a SGSIII.
But in the end there's really no point in making that kind of statement since the factors will never be removed, and because not everyone that's able to buy a smartphone will choose iOS.
I find that a statement that the guy you quoted just is covered in ignorance/blind faith in Apple.
What factors does he want to talk about, size of the device, storage, ports out.
You want to strip it down to just the OS I can think of tons of reason to choose and why I choose Android. The other factors had no bearing on why I choose Android over iOS. It was core of the OS is why I choose it.
Android notification system is just better. It has better multitasking, widgets,
I can customize it to exactly how I want it. The stock launcher has not been used on my phone for almost a year now. Last time I dropped into it was to show someone what it looked like stock compared to what I use. I use a stock ROM.
Other reason is I do not have to put up with Apple insane control policies on Apps. I would hate being stuck in App draw mode full time. I can replace parts of the phone I do not like. Example, I do not use the stock SMS app. Hell I hardly used it at all before I went GO SMS and never looked back.
I have multiple keyboards I can and do use.
None of the stuff I listed has ANYTHING to do with hardware. It is completely from the OS side of thing.
All good points and I always tell posters and folks around me that there are only four reasons I'd choose iOS over Android
1) Things, 2) Daylite 3) iWork Mobile and 4) Billings
Other than that . . . those four apps . . . I'd go Android. If Marketcircle (coders for Daylite and Billings) ported to Android I'd have no problem finding alternatives to Things and iWork.
I also feel (like many other on MRs) that iOS is just plain stale. Call Android fancy and glittery all you want (I've seen what jailbreakers do) but it allows me to do much more with far less swipes.
Changing the settings on certain apps is a button press, 5 or 6 swipe, button press, swipe again, button press, 3 swipe, button press process while on Android it's a button press, a swipe then another press.
Keep in mind that the stuff you list having done on your phone, are done by the same type of people that modify their computer operating systems, or run various flavors of Unix / Linux to get the exact environment they want to reside in. You (nor myself or many on here) are general consumers, and expect more from, and more fully utilize our electronic devices.
It is funny watching people on here vehemently defending their position as to which platform is better, then later sitting down at lunch with various friends (both iOS and Android users), playing cross platform multiplayer games on their phones. None of them care about anything people rant on about here, and often are envious of something the other person's phone can do over theirs (regardless of what side they are on).
It is nice that there are options for all of us to choose from.