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Keep in mind that the stuff you list having done on your phone, are done by the same type of people that modify their computer operating systems, or run various flavors of Unix / Linux to get the exact environment they want to reside in. You (nor myself or many on here) are general consumers, and expect more from, and more fully utilize our electronic devices.

I don't think that's entirely true. People on these forums seem to think that Android is for users that are computer and coding geniuses, yet some of the most innovative things are done with an iPhone too. I personally wouldn't want to jailbreak or root, or bootrom or whatever the hell my phone, tablet or PC.

I don't want a hackintosh, and I've just stepped into the world of Ubuntu ONLY because my department had a bunch of old PCs that are great for just surfing the web. I am no hacker and as I've said I'd pick iOS if it weren't for those few things that I actually like about Android.

iPhone users jailbreak and hack their phones too. Everything Rodimus mentioned are things I like to do, and save for anything related to media and broadcast journalism I am NO super nerd hacker. Changing the launcher and getting certain widgets is just an app away. There is an app I use to get 5 or 6 icons on one row on my EVO, and another I use for putting notes on my homescreen.

It is funny watching people on here vehemently defending their position as to which platform is better, then later sitting down at lunch with various friends (both iOS and Android users), playing cross platform multiplayer games on their phones. None of them care about anything people rant on about here, and often are envious of something the other person's phone can do over theirs (regardless of what side they are on).

It is nice that there are options for all of us to choose from.

This is very true and goes for just about every piece of technology on the market. I'd love to have a Dell M6600 running OSX and an SGSIII with iOS. Or an HP Z1 with TBolt.
 
I don't think that's entirely true. People on these forums seem to think that Android is for users that are computer and coding geniuses, yet some of the most innovative things are done with an iPhone too. I personally wouldn't want to jailbreak or root, or bootrom or whatever the hell my phone, tablet or PC.

I don't want a hackintosh, and I've just stepped into the world of Ubuntu ONLY because my department had a bunch of old PCs that are great for just surfing the web. I am no hacker and as I've said I'd pick iOS if it weren't for those few things that I actually like about Android.

iPhone users jailbreak and hack their phones too. Everything Rodimus mentioned are things I like to do, and save for anything related to media and broadcast journalism I am NO super nerd hacker. Changing the launcher and getting certain widgets is just an app away. There is an app I use to get 5 or 6 icons on one row on my EVO, and another I use for putting notes on my homescreen.

Just to be clear, my comments are not based on Android versus iOS users, it was General public versus Tech Savvy smartphone owners. Outside of that, I fully agree, and have similar experiences under my belt that you have listed.
 
Just to be clear, my comments are not based on Android versus iOS users, it was General public versus Tech Savvy smartphone owners. Outside of that, I fully agree, and have similar experiences under my belt that you have listed.

I know, I hate assuming someone comes from that camp, and the level of intelligence that exuded from your post reassured me that you weren't coming from that end.
 
I know, I hate assuming someone comes from that camp, and the level of intelligence that exuded from your post reassured me that you weren't coming from that end.

Thanks, but I wouldn't label myself intelligent :eek: . I just try to keep an open mind, and be aware that not all peoples needs are compatible. It is nice that there are actually quite a few people (yourself included) that have that mindset on these forums too.
 
by far the most impressive feature i've noticed is the video streaming that you can have playing on home screen while messing about with other stuff. true multitasking. would love to see some power harnessing in iphones
 
by far the most impressive feature i've noticed is the video streaming that you can have playing on home screen while messing about with other stuff. true multitasking. would love to see some power harnessing in iphones

Video "streaming"? I could be wrong, but I don't think you can just use any video you want for that. It might just be for videos you've saved on the device.

So no YouTube or anything. Kinda completely lame.
Try Googling it
 
Video "streaming"? I could be wrong, but I don't think you can just use any video you want for that. It might just be for videos you've saved on the device.

So no YouTube or anything. Kinda completely lame.
Try Googling it
You are wrong, foo.

How about you try googling it, since apparently, you have no idea what you are talking about in this issue?
 
You are wrong, foo.

How about you try googling it, since apparently, you have no idea what you are talking about in this issue?

Please show me evidence that the Pop Up Play feature that Samsung added to the Galaxy S III works with YouTube.

I would be delighted to be proven wrong, because that would be a cool feature.
 
Please show me evidence that the Pop Up Play feature that Samsung added to the Galaxy S III works with YouTube.

I would be delighted to be proven wrong, because that would be a cool feature.

No one has mentioned testing the S3 yet but the existing player StickIt supports it. It plays YouTube through the Share feature. I've used it successfully. Don't know why the S3 wouldn't do something similar.
 
Specific sizes reveal that a phone that's only 10mm wider than an iPhone allows room for a 4.6" display.

To call this huge, is to fail to understand the math, or simply prefer to bash it.

Fact is, thousands upon thousands of Androids with these modern sized displays are bought by both men & women. If they were as unwieldy as some claim they are, they'd never sell.

Samsung (as one example) may not be ones choice, yet they are smart enough to build very popular models.

iPhone 4S - 3.5" display
115.2 x 58.6 x 9.3 mm

Galaxy SII Skyrocket - 4.6" display
129.8 x 68.8 x 9.5 mm

You failing to understand math is that it is almost 20% wider.

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- Public transportation outsells taxi
- BigMac outsells a stake house chain
- Windows outsells Mac
- iPhone "outsells every single Android phone"

Apple fans keep saying that iPhone outsells any Android phone. So what does this fact mean? It means nothing about superiority of iPhone, but it means to me that Apple simply has genius sales/marketing machine which is capable selling basic/sometimes obsolete phone at a very high margin. The business model is simple but polished to the perfection:
  • Do not manufacture nor invent anything but instead:
  • Use other companies' manufacturing capacity, expertise and technologies
  • Use basic design and cheaper components: small screens, smaller battery, less RAM, VGA front camera, no OLED, LTE, SD card...
  • Sell single product model with rare updates (cheaper production)
  • Use cheap Chinese labor
  • Pay highest attention to style and industrial design
  • Create extreme marketing hype
  • Create closed ecosystem
  • Litigate and sue

Since most of the iPhones sold cost more then the android phones it means a lot. Nice try at blind spin though.
 
You failing to understand math is that it is almost 20% wider.
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Since most of the iPhones sold cost more then the android phones it means a lot. Nice try at blind spin though.

Oh my, someone's unhappy. It's just a phone.

A fragile one at that.

Once Apple moves away from two sheets of glass, the durability factor will return to Apples usual high standard.
 
A fragile one at that.

Once Apple moves away from two sheets of glass, the durability factor will return to Apples usual high standard.

No more fragile than any other phone, glass is strong when used properly, more FUD from ixodes, but that's nothing new.
 
Apple being a cult some people believe in weird things. Glass as break resistant as plastic? Watch and cry.

There's no hierarchy of materials where you can rank 'break resistance' as simply as some stupid rock/paper/scissors game. Thus I never said that 'glass is as break resistant as plastic'; only that ixodes' post was a willful mischaracterization as to the quality and reliability of Apple products, like many of his other posts. 'Made with glass' doesn't in itself mean fragile, gg lilo777 as always.
 
There's no hierarchy of materials where you can rank 'break resistance' as simply as some stupid rock/paper/scissors game. Thus I never said that 'glass is as break resistant as plastic'; only that ixodes' post was a willful mischaracterization as to the quality and reliability of Apple products, like many of his other posts. 'Made with glass' doesn't in itself mean fragile, gg lilo777 as always.

I didn't get anything about how ixodes' post was a willful mischaracterization of the quality/reliability of Apple products from your post..... :eek: It just seemed more like a defense of the iPhone's build strength:

A fragile one at that.

Once Apple moves away from two sheets of glass, the durability factor will return to Apples usual high standard.

No more fragile than any other phone, glass is strong when used properly, more FUD from ixodes, but that's nothing new.

I do agree that materials can't be lumped altogether... there's strong plastic and strong glass types as well as weak plastic and weak glass types. But in general, I think the iPhone's design has been frequently criticized for its proneness to crack.... more so than most other phones.
 
I didn't get anything about how ixodes' post was a willful mischaracterization of the quality/reliability of Apple products

Well, let's see:

"It's a fragile phone" - this is a smear, because 'can break when dropped from shoulder height onto concrete' doesn't in itself mean one of the iPhone's essential properties is fragility.

"Once Apple moves away from two sheets of glass, the durability factor will return to Apples usual high standard." - this implies (1) that the iPhone is not up to Apple's usual standards; (2) that it is not durable tout court; (3) that the glass, being glass, is to blame rather than some other aspect of the design.
 
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