Samsung's Upcoming Galaxy S7 Rumored to Feature Water Resistant Design, Pressure-Sensitive Screen

[Keirasplace]

cry me a river. Apple is rumored to bring amoled screens within two years. I wonder why Apple is copying the display tech and asking Samsung to build amoled screens for them.

Apple bring tech forward when they no longer are piece of crap and can be produced in more than 1M quantity. So, tell me how "proud" of you are of those Samsung OLED phones bought years ago which quickly had heavy burn in and really bad over saturated colors...

Amoled still suffer from burn in after 2 years and color accuracy diminishes over time even without burn-in; that's why Apple started by using it on the watch (which is used less per day); LG has now a version of OLED that mostly solves this issue.

Samsung's crappy pentile Amoled which required 25% more dpi for the same actual resolution and killing performance (and battery) sure was a winner. Stu-stu-stutter... means low sales. Yes, a winner...

Unlike Samsung, Apple expects their phones to last more than 18 months and they don't bring half baked tech to market.
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There is a clear bias because Samsung is good and successful at what they they do. They have a mastery on "distribution innovation"... They can copy a product (not just smartphones) and distribute it within 8-12 months. This sounds easy to do but it's not easy. Copying is also frowned upon be western culture, but it's a legit business model that's well regarded in Asia.

Samsung has been able to rapidly copy and outsell products from various industries and then eventually improve upon product to crush their rivals... Like I said earlier where is BB, Nokia, and Motorola? What happened to Japan's display industry?

It's "frowned upon" because well, stealing is frowned upon. Good grief. Disregard for actual IP is not something I would be proud about.

We will see how Samsung does this years as they are nearing ZERO profit in the mobile area and will likely lose most of their high end chip sales to TSMC (because other makers are sure not selling a lot of those).

 

[Kumaran]

Please read the article. Apple has been stealing other companies ideas for years Steve Jobs was the best at using other people's ideas. Apple doesn't do things first. They wait for the great copy.

Apple copycats (History)

Design- Samsung F700 was shown 2006 ( Korean design registration application in December 2006), and then released in 2007. After Apple stole the design and showed the world the iPhone January 9th, 2007 at MacWorld.

http://snap.ashampoo.com/uploads/2016-01-30/ZtOzrOy7.png - Photo - Nokia N95 8GB, Samsung G800, Nokia N81 8GB, Samsung F700 -

Samsung F700 and Apple
https://i.imgur.com/gQ65WyO.jpg

First iPhone idea copycat

LG KE850- It was first announced on December 12, 2006. And It is the first mobile phone with a capacitive touchscreen.

https://i.imgur.com/ayjAuXQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rWTnDEM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SnpYiBA.jpg

Who copied?
The iPhone 6 is a basic cloning of Samsung design (Samsung Ativ S - 2012).

iPhone 6 copycat from Samsung Ativ S (2012 -Windows

Samsung Ativ S (2012- before Apple 6)
https://i.imgur.com/ZRX7iV2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/e3NVZIu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HAmTbKC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HOzMinS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gNLJeJe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BkMz6Hm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NPUC5kM.jpg

Apple iPhone 5 (2012)
https://i.imgur.com/KPnTo4z.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OH9CW4h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YN5rg0y.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ToMur54.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rm3HrIe.jpg

Latest iCopy..

Apple 6 plus copycat from Samsung note (Apple copied Samsung with the bigger screen variant)

Apple Pencil copycat from Samsung

https://i.imgur.com/bAFnJA0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7CcPySk.jpg

Apple Live Photos copycat from Samsung Animated Photos (GALAXY Note 3 and S4) -

Apple 3D Touch copycat from Sony Xperia sola floating Touch technology, and 3D Touch some features copycat from Samsung Air View (GALAXY Note 2, S4 and S5).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMhMb54a47s

Apple Live Photos, 3D Touch & Universal Apps: Apple hijacks Microsoft's lingo - http://www.windowscentral.com/apple-hijacks-microsoft-lingo

Apple’s Force Touch is Already Patented by BlackBerry - http://www.cantechletter.com/.../apples-force-touch-is.../

Apple Fingerprint Scanner copycat Motorola
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFmIgNhg0M4

10 iOS 9 Features Apple Stole from Android - http://www.gottabemobile.com/.../ios-9-features-apple.../

Apple's Next iPhone 7 Should Have Wireless Charging, OLED display, Mobile VR, Dual camera - (News). As always apple is late to the copycat party. but isheep apple puppet fanboys think its innovative. they never say apples copies anything.

 

[vertsix]

What are you talking about?
Samsung's SAMOLED is freaking awful with over-saturated colors and color shift. Not to mention burn-in problem all over the place.

Uh, infinite contrast man.

And you can change the screen modes with OLED to Full sRGB.

And the burn-in "problem" is not a legitimate issue.

 

[vmistery]

If only you knew which manufacturer made Live Photos first...

Nokia with living photos? I had a windows phone!

 

[nia820]

I don't know why Samsung decided to do away with water resistant in the first place. The galaxy s5 was water resistant. Then they took that feature away with s6.

Pressure sensitive technology already exist on their note series phones. They are now just being it to the a series.

Samsung isn't doing anything new with s7. Kinda of disappointed. I was hoping they would add some new innovative features to s7.
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Remove TOUCHWIZ and I would 'tap' that (pun intended).

Stock Android is what I want - not the BS all the other providers put in their.

touch wiz has actually improved. But yeah Samsung really need to overhaul touch wiz or either have a stock Android option like they did with the galaxy s4 Google play edition.

 

[Maetzle]

Remove TOUCHWIZ and I would 'tap' that (pun intended).

Stock Android is what I want - not the BS all the other providers put in their.

Agreed. I really like Android, but stock Android and not that annoying, ugly Touchwiz. CyanogenOS I can tolerate as well ^^

 

[emm386]

The problem is if it is a Samsung solution, developers will be unlikely to support it. It needs to make it to "core" Android. That's the downside with Samsung's approach. They are dependent on Google.

getPressure() for MotionEvent work on Android since API level 1. In other words it has always been there. In the Android OS. Just the brainiacs of the Android Development Team couldn't figure out, how to put it to use and never considered it to be a "useful" addition...and along came Apple "inventing" force touch... Yay!

What are you talking about?
Samsung's SAMOLED is freaking awful with over-saturated colors and color shift.

You like to speak of Display Quality? We have around 16 Apple LED Cinema Displays in the office. I fail to find two that show identical colors, every single one is different. Calibration not worth the effort, because the problem lies somewhere else: All the LED Cinema Displays (Thunderbolt as well as mDP) have one thing in common: Yellowish tints / discoloration. Sometimes in the edges, sometimes on the side of the screen, sometimes on only one side of the screen... So the colors on the right third of the screen have a different tone than on the left two third of the screen. Abominal for a >1000USD display... Called Apple, they said it's ok. Never again.

Oh, and they eat keyboards - but that's not my point.

Samsung's AMOLED, being over-satureated and not true to the color is at least consistent all over the visible screen area.

 

[Radon87000]

LOL at those Samsung copying Apple comments.I guess Apple is gonna be first with wireless charging,quick charge,OLED displays,big screens.Oops

 

[The Game 161]

So there will be no s7 edge plus if the s7 edge will be 5.5 inches?

 

[sofila]

I would consider switching over to a N gen phone - but the Samsung camera and camera software is vastly superior at this point in time. And as someone who takes a lot of pictures, that's important to me right now more than some bloat.

Fair point that leads to: maybe obvious and trivial, we've finally come to a moment where, as customers, we do have a lot of choices in front of us.

 

[bchreng]

The problem with pressure sensitive screens will be app support. Granted Samsung does sells enough phones that app developers would take notice, I don't think there'll be any real significant use outside Samsung's own bloated UI and default apps. At least not until Google decides to incorporate it into their next Android revision. If they haven't done so already.

 

[AppleInTheMud]

Shameless as always, not only did they steal iPhone's existing flagship feature, they even stole the features RUMORED for the next iPhone.

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Just like Apple steal from Samsung. Livephotos launched with the S4 3 years ago... Grow up

Or the notifications center. Pull from the top. Total ripoff from Android. Could keep the list going both ways... Thats life and it's ok. It gives you a choice

"they even stole the features RUMORED for the next iPhone" - Really? Stole a rumor? When you hear rumors, you have no clues, for wich devices this is. Some will say Apple, some LG, some Samsung. That was just...

 

[PalmiNio]

RIM may have been one of the first big companies to pioneer onscreen haptic feedback with Surepress, but Apple sure didn't release a competing sub-par product within 6 months as an answer like Samsung has repeatedly done to other companies. RIM had a 7 year lead and did nothing to improve it.

I agree with hagr182 that overall it's ok if one company leads the way to force innovation, but you can't ignore that it's a market reaction (monkey-see monkey-do) when it occur over and over again. Either that or Samsung co-incidentally market the same flagship features as Apple (and others) months after release of a product or rumor.

To me, what has always amazed me is how fast they can do it!! They actually pride themselves on it (the Korean media calls it "fast-follower") and this has occurred before the iPhone. In Asia being able "copy" and distribute a competing product is actually something to be proud of - much of the Asian businesses are built after this model - first copy, make it cheaper, then leapfrog the competitor. And it works... where is BB, Nokia, Motorola today?

The Rules of the Apple Fanbase:

1. All features was invented by Apple
2. If a feature was present before Apple invented the feature, then ignore this fact
3. If the feature indeed was vastly present before Apple invented it, go back to point number 1

Repeat this until all other invented features are credited to Apple!



Since much of the Apples features are based on core technology invented by Asian companies it seems silly to discredit them.

Since Samsung has been the major component supplier to Apple (RAM, Batteries, Chip and NAND) so the reason that Apple was able to create an iPhone from the start was due to the inventions of Samsung in massproduction of 4 major components.

Apple has since then worked closely with chinese manufacturers to copy Samsungs technology in production to make components at the same quality and volume as Samsung provided Apple but cheaper and on Apples business terms (they like to be the Supply Chain Bully which is impossible against Samsung).

So when you talk about 3D touch as something we should all be greatfull thanks to Apple, then remember that the parts that made the iPhone possible in the first place is due to Samsung.

 

[apolloa]

Hahaha it's just utterly priceless all these comments that Samsungs AMOLED is crap and Apples OLED screens will be far superior, because they will be Apples and the technology mature, even though SAMSUNG will be making the fricking screens for Apple hahahahahaha

 

[Jsameds]

Please read the article. Apple has been stealing other companies ideas for years Steve Jobs was the best at using other people's ideas. Apple doesn't do things first. They wait for the great copy.

Apple copycats (History)

Design- Samsung F700 was shown 2006 ( Korean design registration application in December 2006), and then released in 2007. After Apple stole the design and showed the world the iPhone January 9th, 2007 at MacWorld.

http://snap.ashampoo.com/uploads/2016-01-30/ZtOzrOy7.png - Photo - Nokia N95 8GB, Samsung G800, Nokia N81 8GB, Samsung F700 -

Samsung F700 and Apple
https://i.imgur.com/gQ65WyO.jpg

First iPhone idea copycat

LG KE850- It was first announced on December 12, 2006. And It is the first mobile phone with a capacitive touchscreen.

https://i.imgur.com/ayjAuXQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rWTnDEM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SnpYiBA.jpg

Who copied?
The iPhone 6 is a basic cloning of Samsung design (Samsung Ativ S - 2012).

iPhone 6 copycat from Samsung Ativ S (2012 -Windows

Samsung Ativ S (2012- before Apple 6)
https://i.imgur.com/ZRX7iV2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/e3NVZIu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HAmTbKC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HOzMinS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gNLJeJe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BkMz6Hm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NPUC5kM.jpg

Apple iPhone 5 (2012)
https://i.imgur.com/KPnTo4z.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OH9CW4h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YN5rg0y.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ToMur54.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rm3HrIe.jpg

Latest iCopy..

Apple 6 plus copycat from Samsung note (Apple copied Samsung with the bigger screen variant)

Apple Pencil copycat from Samsung

https://i.imgur.com/bAFnJA0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7CcPySk.jpg

Apple Live Photos copycat from Samsung Animated Photos (GALAXY Note 3 and S4) -

Apple 3D Touch copycat from Sony Xperia sola floating Touch technology, and 3D Touch some features copycat from Samsung Air View (GALAXY Note 2, S4 and S5).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMhMb54a47s

Apple Live Photos, 3D Touch & Universal Apps: Apple hijacks Microsoft's lingo - http://www.windowscentral.com/apple-hijacks-microsoft-lingo

Apple’s Force Touch is Already Patented by BlackBerry - http://www.cantechletter.com/.../apples-force-touch-is.../

Apple Fingerprint Scanner copycat Motorola
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFmIgNhg0M4

10 iOS 9 Features Apple Stole from Android - http://www.gottabemobile.com/.../ios-9-features-apple.../

Apple's Next iPhone 7 Should Have Wireless Charging, OLED display, Mobile VR, Dual camera - (News). As always apple is late to the copycat party. but isheep apple puppet fanboys think its innovative. they never say apples copies anything.

Desperate.
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LOL at those Samsung copying Apple comments.I guess Apple is gonna be first with wireless charging,quick charge,OLED displays,big screens.Oops

Wireless charging as it is is pretty pointless IMO. Good job Apple is researching proper wireless charging that doesn't require your phone to be on a plate.

I've been quick charging iOS devices since 2008 using an iPad charger.

OLED - I agree, it is needed in iPhones (Or at least an equivalent or better technology). LED is good but not the best any more.

And big screens - oh god here we go again. It's not something you copy, it is merely a choice that has to be made. One could easily then go on to say many Android phones copied Apple's high PPI screens when iPhone 4 came out... But if you insist on citing screen size on a handheld device then you can look back to 1993 and the Newton, which had a 6" display.

 

[jamezr]

Apple bring tech forward when they no longer are piece of crap and can be produced in more than 1M quantity. So, tell me how "proud" of you are of those Samsung OLED phones bought years ago which quickly had heavy burn in and really bad over saturated colors...

Amoled still suffer from burn in after 2 years and color accuracy diminishes over time even without burn-in; that's why Apple started by using it on the watch (which is used less per day); LG has now a version of OLED that mostly solves this issue.

Samsung's crappy pentile Amoled which required 25% more dpi for the same actual resolution and killing performance (and battery) sure was a winner. Stu-stu-stutter... means low sales. Yes, a winner...

Unlike Samsung, Apple expects their phones to last more than 18 months and they don't bring half baked tech to market.
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It's "frowned upon" because well, stealing is frowned upon. Good grief. Disregard for actual IP is not something I would be proud about.

We will see how Samsung does this years as they are nearing ZERO profit in the mobile area and will likely lose most of their high end chip sales to TSMC (because other makers are sure not selling a lot of those).

All companies steal and borrow ideas from each other, Apple is no different. Take your rose colored glasses off.
Steve even said it in an interview and it's on YT.
Like larger displays on phones despite saying the 3.5 display was perfect and it was ridiculous for anything larger.
Or maybe Apple would never make a smaller ipad when smaller Android tablets first came out. Only to release a ipad mini when smaller tablets started to sell.

Again ALL companies copy ideas from each other. It is how businesses have been run since........well there have been businesses.

 

[PalmiNio]

Desperate.
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Wireless charging as it is is pretty pointless IMO. Good job Apple is researching proper wireless charging that doesn't require your phone to be on a plate.

I've been quick charging iOS devices since 2008 using an iPad charger.

OLED - I agree, it is needed in iPhones (Or at least an equivalent or better technology). LED is good but not the best any more.

And big screens - oh god here we go again. It's not something you copy, it is merely a choice that has to be made. One could easily then go on to say many Android phones copied Apple's high PPI screens when iPhone 4 came out... But if you insist on citing screen size on a handheld device then you can look back to 1993 and the Newton, which had a 6" display.

As far as I know Apple has never produced a high PPI screen, the technology and invention is Korean (LG Display).

Claiming this is thanks to Apple is saying that a brand that puts 8gb RAM into a mobile has inveted that.....which is just stupid.

And resolution and PPI is just specs in a technology that increases over time, just like RAM and CPU.

So NO they did not introduce "high PPI screen"! Thats just a stupid marketing trick from Apple. Steve Jobs told the world that higher PPI was not needed since the human eye could not take higher PPI............
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Apple bring tech forward when they no longer are piece of crap and can be produced in more than 1M quantity. So, tell me how "proud" of you are of those Samsung OLED phones bought years ago which quickly had heavy burn in and really bad over saturated colors...

Apple bring NO tech forward!

They have not inveted anything in that space. They are dependent on what LG and other REAL producers can give them! Just like they are with batteries, RAM, NAND and CPUs.

Samsung INVENTS core technologies and the manufacturing of those technologies. Thats why Apple has been depents on other companies products from Asia (Sony for camera, Samsung for CPU, LG for display) and such.

You can ask a simple question:
1. How many components from Samsung do Apple use?
2. How many components from Apple do Samsung use?

 

[Jsameds]

As far as I know Apple has never produced a high PPI screen, the technology and invention is Korean (LG Display).

Claiming this is thanks to Apple is saying that a brand that puts 8gb RAM into a mobile has inveted that.....which is just stupid.

And resolution and PPI is just specs in a technology that increases over time, just like RAM and CPU.

So NO they did not introduce "high PPI screen"! Thats just a stupid marketing trick from Apple. Steve Jobs told the world that higher PPI was not needed since the human eye could not take higher PPI............

The iPhone 4 has the highest PPI display at the time and high PPI Android phones started appearing after that. Now I'm not saying Android manufacturers copied Apple's high PPI, I was simply using that as an example to demonstrate how silly it sounds when someone says Apple copied a screen size.

 

[PalmiNio]

The iPhone 4 has the highest PPI display at the time and high PPI Android phones started appearing after that. Now I'm not saying Android manufacturers copied Apple's high PPI, I was simply using that as an example to demonstrate how silly it sounds when someone says Apple copied a screen size.

And what exactly is the border for being a high PPI?

Is like saying: They invented the "Fast CPU" since they where the first over 1,2Ghz and everything below is "Slow CPU" and everyhing above is "Fast CPU".

There is allways some that is the "highest" on specs for each generation:
- Highest Resolution
- Highest PPI
- Highest amount of RAM
- Highest amount of battery capicty
- Fastest CPU

So saying this wast the first "High PPI" is just buying into simple marketing ********.

 

[Abazigal]

Apple bring NO tech forward!

They have not inveted anything in that space. They are dependent on what LG and other REAL producers can give them! Just like they are with batteries, RAM, NAND and CPUs.

Samsung INVENTS core technologies and the manufacturing of those technologies. Thats why Apple has been depents on other companies products from Asia (Sony for camera, Samsung for CPU, LG for display) and such.

By your definition, I suppose cooks are worthless because they don't grow any of their own food but instead buy them from supermarkets and grocery stores?

What Apple does very well is refine existing technologies and present them in a seamless and integrated package, which in turn means a better user experience for me, the end user. Which I feel is no less important.

Just take the iPad for instance. Apple wasn't the first to create a tablet, but they were arguably the first to present a tablet offering that didn't suck to use. If the iPad hadn't existed, the individual component parts of the iPad may well have not existed for me either, since I have no use for them individually.

 

[Jsameds]

And what exactly is the border for being a high PPI?

Is like saying: They invented the "Fast CPU" since they where the first over 1,2Ghz and everything below is "Slow CPU" and everyhing above is "Fast CPU".

There is allways some that is the "highest" on specs for each generation:
- Highest Resolution
- Highest PPI
- Highest amount of RAM
- Highest amount of battery capicty
- Fastest CPU

So saying this wast the first "High PPI" is just buying into simple marketing ********.

Again, you have completely missed the point. I'm not repeating myself a third time.

 

[hagr182]

You do realize that Samsung released a smart watch back in 1999?

No, but just searched it

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Did-you-know-that-Samsung-announced-a-watch-phone-in-1999_id69376

in reality it was more of a phone in a strap and it kinda looks like one of those power rangers (in space i think) morphing device (had a toy replica back in the day that looked exactly like this)

 

[grkm3]

Apple bring tech forward when they no longer are piece of crap and can be produced in more than 1M quantity. So, tell me how "proud" of you are of those Samsung OLED phones bought years ago which quickly had heavy burn in and really bad over saturated colors...

Amoled still suffer from burn in after 2 years and color accuracy diminishes over time even without burn-in; that's why Apple started by using it on the watch (which is used less per day); LG has now a version of OLED that mostly solves this issue.

Samsung's crappy pentile Amoled which required 25% more dpi for the same actual resolution and killing performance (and battery) sure was a winner. Stu-stu-stutter... means low sales. Yes, a winner...

Unlike Samsung, Apple expects their phones to last more than 18 months and they don't bring half baked tech to market.
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It's "frowned upon" because well, stealing is frowned upon. Good grief. Disregard for actual IP is not something I would be proud about.

We will see how Samsung does this years as they are nearing ZERO profit in the mobile area and will likely lose most of their high end chip sales to TSMC (because other makers are sure not selling a lot of those).

Have you actually looked at Samsung's last financial earnings quarter?

They made 6billion pure profit in mobile sales and are number 1 in the world in mobile sales.

They are up 15% in q4 2015 and up big time from a year before.the gs6 and note 5 saved them big time

 

[0098386]

Never thought this would happen. iPhone 7 wants to push me away with bluetooth audio, and Samsung is pulling me in with water resistance.

 

[Mackinjosh]

Maybe Apple will continue to innovate with brilliant advances like Live Photos...which are just gifs...which Microsoft/Lumia did first years ago. Apple is sooooooooo innovative.