Stone Age no, inferior yes. You might want to look up the definition of the word. In a world where data theft is increasing daily a few milliseconds isn’t going to outweigh FaceID being more secure than TouchID. As someone that had regular failures with TouchID, it was the primary factor in me buying the phone. The whole premise behind the orientation means that YOU have to be specifically looking at your phone to unlock it which is an added security benefit despite being a hardware limitation. It’s a great move for the future of iPhones.
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Stone Age no, inferior yes. You might want to look up the definition of the word. In a world where data theft is increasing daily a few milliseconds isn’t going to outweigh FaceID being more secure than TouchID. As someone that had regular failures with TouchID, it was the primary factor in me buying the phone. The whole premise behind the orientation means that YOU have to be specifically looking at your phone to unlock it which is an added security benefit despite being a hardware limitation. It’s a great move for the future of iPhones.
You know what's unreal? This post.
First off, this is a public forum with a comments section. Telling people who don't agree with you to "just keep it to yourself" is some serious Gestapo stuff. It's also never going to happen, so....
Second, insisting that people who don't have the X don't because they lack the money (you've done this multiple times now) is just absurd on sooooo many levels. First, it's actually not like the thing is an order of magnitude more expensive than previous iPhones. Second, lots of people have plenty of money and flat out don't like the iPhone X for one reason or another. Like me. Your implying that it's all about the money is elitist, wrong, and naive.
Third, the name of this site is macrumors.com. Not appleisperfect.com or weallloveappleproductsnomatterwhat.com. People are allowed to make their "salty" comments and to note criticisms. In fact, I'd even say that's a good thing. It encourages us to take an objective view and promotes user education rather than engaging in the forums equivalent of a Louis CK special showing.
And fourth, just because you've decided you don't mind the notch doesn't mean others don't find it unsightly. Particularly when watching videos in landscape mode, which a decent number of people do with some frequency, you have two terrible choices. News flash: different people have preferences and tolerances for different things. That's why some people buy PCs and Androids and some people buy Macs and iPhones. That's why some people like blondes and some people like brunettes. That's why some people obsess over details while others focus on the big pictures. And that's why you looooove your iPhone X and some other people don't. Not because they're poor and got "conned." I mean Jesus.
Like I said, I have plenty of money and I'm seriously considering an iPhone 8. I've not been "conned." I just have different preferences and priorities than you. You should learn to accept that that sort of thing happens in the real world. Your life will be better off if you do.
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Yeah, I agree with you--but I think it depends entirely on how people want to use their device. There are definitely pros and cons for different situations. I think for me personally, I very slightly prefer Touch ID, because there's one use case where it really excels: the surreptitious phone check under the conference room table. Granted, I could use my passcode in that case. But really, unless you are a gardener or construction worker or the like and often don't have your fingers exposed (in which case Face ID is a clear win), I think it's a coin toss.
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I’m glad it works well for you.
For me Touch ID works better for how I use it. I couldn’t care less about specs, it’s usability first and foremost.
This is a poor argument for two reasons. First off, "more secure" doesn't matter when the first mechanism was plenty secure. In what situation was Touch ID insufficient for your use case of "data theft"?
Second, you talk about "regular failures with TouchID," but you are conflating two completely different things: false positives and false negatives. Frequent false negatives does not mean there are frequent false positives. That kind of kills your data security argument too.
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I hate the new decision of Apple being asymmetrical. The notch is only on the top. The green line is only on one side!
This doesn't count as #-gate, because you're getting your phone replaced no questions asked if the screen has a green line on it, assuming it's still under warranty.
#iphone6TouchDisease on the other hand, very possibly getting told "nope" unless you have AppleCare+ and it's still under the 2 year warranty.
#antennagate - Apple "noped" right out of that one.
#bendghazi - You're putting it in your pocket wrong.
#iphone6TouchDisease on the other hand, very possibly getting told "nope" unless you have AppleCare+ and it's still under the 2 year warranty.
#antennagate - Apple "noped" right out of that one.
#bendghazi - You're putting it in your pocket wrong.
Oh so you mean this research such as
Apple Signs Two-Year Deal With Samsung For 92 Million OLED iPhone Panels
So I’m curious if the contract only covers 92 million devices, who will build the OLED panel from the 92 millionth and 1 panel should Apple reach that many?
That’s where LG will come in.
With all that being snide wasn’t necessary as others have asked as well given the nature and tone of snide comments stating “it’s Samsungs fault”. Just wanted to be sure it wasn’t fanboy fuel rhetoric.
Ok, you are right. Apple should be perfect... zero defects. At the volume they ship at, that should be easy. They can also save a lot of money by getting rid of all the Geniuses that do support in the stores. They probably never thought of this.
Just curious... I'm guessing you have never worked in manufacturing???
I did, making fruit machines and gaming machines for English pubs. Every machine was set to a demo that stressed it to the limit and left on for at least 28 days. Guess what, faults were found in that time scale, go tell Apple.
it can be one or the other but it can also be the ribbon cable, but I put my money on the display, who knows maybe samsung tried to screw apple, after all is their phone even if samsung just made the display, like a said before apple should it known better, I hope the iPhone X screen don't start exploding
face recognition activated
boom
I find it interesting that Apple, in its new display, uses the most advanced and much more skillful kind of Diamond Pentile subpixling than used in the Galaxy series. Exclusively for Apple from Panasonic!
The display is therefore very crisp, sharp and colourfast and no longer with discontinuous contours like previous OLED displays. Apple has waited long enough to provide perfect displays in OLED technology.
Teckies continue here:
https://www.oled-info.com/pentile
And there:
http://www.displaymate.com/iPhoneX_ShootOut_1a.htm
Well done, Apple!
The display is therefore very crisp, sharp and colourfast and no longer with discontinuous contours like previous OLED displays. Apple has waited long enough to provide perfect displays in OLED technology.
Teckies continue here:
https://www.oled-info.com/pentile
And there:
http://www.displaymate.com/iPhoneX_ShootOut_1a.htm
Well done, Apple!
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The X display uses a Diamond Pentile subpixel arrangement, which Samsung has been using since the Note 5.
So did you make 100 million of those gaming machines? Any idea what it would add to the cost of an iPhone to add 28 days to its manufacturing time?
If this were any other brand than Apple, I might be worried! My X has, thus far, shown itself to have perfect hardware! I seem to be suffering from the "GPS Drift" bug (sounds like a japanese car meet), which I've read Apple are working on a fix to be rolled out with iOS11.2
I'm happy with my "beta" iPX! And even happier I got one on release day.
Those that use the "beta" thing as an excuse for not getting theirs until next year/generation/or whenever have missed the point of getting the Anniversary Edition - This is the one you're supposed to keep for posterity ...I doubt there will be another one with the same sized screen for another 10 year cycle. You might also miss out on being a one of the Pioneers that tested the newest tech for future generations of smartphone. If mine develops an issue, I might just box it up, put it away and go back to my ip6s - can you imagine the value in another 10 years?
This is an Apple product ...so getting a replacement is as certain as death & taxes! And with AppleCare+ thrown in, I'm "Golden" as we say in Blighty.
I'm happy with my "beta" iPX! And even happier I got one on release day.
Those that use the "beta" thing as an excuse for not getting theirs until next year/generation/or whenever have missed the point of getting the Anniversary Edition - This is the one you're supposed to keep for posterity ...I doubt there will be another one with the same sized screen for another 10 year cycle. You might also miss out on being a one of the Pioneers that tested the newest tech for future generations of smartphone. If mine develops an issue, I might just box it up, put it away and go back to my ip6s - can you imagine the value in another 10 years?
This is an Apple product ...so getting a replacement is as certain as death & taxes! And with AppleCare+ thrown in, I'm "Golden" as we say in Blighty.
Don't you see that both displays use exactly the same sub pixel arrangement? Also, photo of Samsung display has higher magnification: it's real resolution is higher than that of IPX but subpixel placement is more sparse on the picture.it can be one or the other but it can also be the ribbon cable, but I put my money on the display, who knows maybe samsung tried to screw apple, after all is their phone even if samsung just made the display, like a said before apple should it known better, I hope the iPhone X screen don't start exploding
face recognition activated
boom
I don't think anyone that uses photoshop would do such a crud job - I'm betting it's MS Paint.
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Not sure if it's intended, but you sound really bitter.
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No they don't.
https://www.oled-info.com/iphone-x-has-different-diamond-pixel-structure-samsungs-galaxy-displays
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It's a smartphone, not a collectable.If this were any other brand than Apple, I might be worried! My X has, thus far, shown itself to have perfect hardware! I seem to be suffering from the "GPS Drift" bug (sounds like a japanese car meet), which I've read Apple are working on a fix to be rolled out with iOS11.2
I'm happy with my "beta" iPX! And even happier I got one on release day.
Those that use the "beta" thing as an excuse for not getting theirs until next year/generation/or whenever have missed the point of getting the Anniversary Edition - This is the one you're supposed to keep for posterity ...I doubt there will be another one with the same sized screen for another 10 year cycle. You might also miss out on being a one of the Pioneers that tested the newest tech for future generations of smartphone. If mine develops an issue, I might just box it up, put it away and go back to my ip6s - can you imagine the value in another 10 years?
This is an Apple product ...so getting a replacement is as certain as death & taxes! And with AppleCare+ thrown in, I'm "Golden" as we say in Blighty.
The difference is pretty slight... One color being round vs rectangular. I don't believe the comparison pictures are to scale because the Note 8 has a higher pixel density, which looks to be the opposite in the comparison.
And some smartphones go on to become collectables ...how much would someone pay for an original iPhone, complete with launch day screen defect ...Apple and their competitors would get into a bidding war for it.
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Tell DisplayMate they got it wrong, not me.
You know what's unreal? This post.
First off, this is a public forum with a comments section. Telling people who don't agree with you to "just keep it to yourself" is some serious Gestapo stuff. It's also never going to happen, so....
Second, insisting that people who don't have the X don't because they lack the money (you've done this multiple times now) is just absurd on sooooo many levels. First, it's actually not like the thing is an order of magnitude more expensive than previous iPhones. Second, lots of people have plenty of money and flat out don't like the iPhone X for one reason or another. Like me. Your implying that it's all about the money is elitist, wrong, and naive.
Third, the name of this site is macrumors.com. Not appleisperfect.com or weallloveappleproductsnomatterwhat.com. People are allowed to make their "salty" comments and to note criticisms. In fact, I'd even say that's a good thing. It encourages us to take an objective view and promotes user education rather than engaging in the forums equivalent of a Louis CK special showing.
And fourth, just because you've decided you don't mind the notch doesn't mean others don't find it unsightly. Particularly when watching videos in landscape mode, which a decent number of people do with some frequency, you have two terrible choices. News flash: different people have preferences and tolerances for different things. That's why some people buy PCs and Androids and some people buy Macs and iPhones. That's why some people like blondes and some people like brunettes. That's why some people obsess over details while others focus on the big pictures. And that's why you looooove your iPhone X and some other people don't. Not because they're poor and got "conned." I mean Jesus.
Like I said, I have plenty of money and I'm seriously considering an iPhone 8. I've not been "conned." I just have different preferences and priorities than you. You should learn to accept that that sort of thing happens in the real world. Your life will be better off if you do.
Wow, perfectly said ... to me when people act like that it's obvious people are unsure about the iPhone X and have to try to prove to themselves that they made a wise $1200-$1500 investment ... but once again very very well said
Yes, they do. Quoting DisplayMate:
A high resolution screen shot obtained with an optical microscope camera shows a Diamond shaped layout for the Sub-Pixels on the iPhone X. This Diamond Sub-Pixel layout is used on many OLED displays. On the iPhone X the resulting Sub-Pixel fill factor is much higher than other OLEDs, which is a key factor in providing the much higher full Screen Peak Luminance of over 625 nits.
What they say is that IPX display has fatter subpixels. This may be a trade off. Remember, Note 8 display has higher resolution/pixel density. The technology might have a limit on the sub-pixel spacing. With higher pixel density this would automatically mean relatively smaller subpixels. Samsung needs higher pixel density because their phones do VR. IPX does not.
And also quoting from Displaymate, "Another very noticeable and major improvement for the Galaxy Note8 is the display is 22% Brighter than the Galaxy S8, with a Peak Display Brightness of over 1,200 nits, a new Record for Smartphones, which provides significantly improved display performance and screen readability in challenging indoor and outdoor high ambient light viewing conditions."
So they say this new layout on the X display gets it a "much higher" peak luminance, but it's only half that of the Note 8?
"Hardware defect"
So this is Samsung's fault, right?
Most definitely!
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I keep telling apple haters that!
As his picture shows, though, it’s not at all the same.