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I think the cloud icon is even more appropriate than we originally thought. Apple switched from the .Mac network icon to the cloud because with MobileMe, not even Apple is sure where your data is!

Wow, no need to scare people. While there are email issues, no one has reported loss of data stored on the MM (.Mac) server but I understand your point and well taken. This looks like one of those things that will take at least 6 months for Apple to cure.
 
don't get it. though no where on the MobileMe website does Apple admit this, but it doesn't work with exchange. so, if you're work pc has outlook and works with exchange you can't sync your calendars or contacts with MobileMe or your iphone or your mac at home.

Why would it? MobileMe has it's own contacts, so you'd have to import your work contacts into MobileMe. Apple doesn't say anything about it, because it's pretty obvious.
 
i have been a member since the old iTools days and i seem to be running ok... yet i never did receive the letter stating my service was going to be extended... at that point i did have a few issues...

hope everything gets sorted out....

now this is totally off topic but i have a .mac Box that i havent opened or used... can i still use that code to renew my MobileMe account i better be able to or that would really piss me off.
 
Email is not working for me right now. It's been off and on for the last 10 days. Sync is awful. Back to my Mac quit working for me shortly after the MM upgrade. I had a lot of problems with iDisk after the initial rollout, where I could not access it for 3-4 days, but it's working okay now. I have used .Mac since 2002, and I've had enough. All I want is a reliable email and remote storage solution, which is apparently too much to ask of MobileMe.

It seems to be working ok for me - but how do you know you are not getting email, so maybe it isn't. And I did get messed up the first few day of the launch - I was traveling, and lost some .mac services I wanted to use.

For me I just want BTMM, and maybe email(which is blessedly spam free on .mac) and web galleries. All of which were up and running just fine on .mac, the service I paid for. I am not sure why legacy .mac subscribers weren't given the option to stay with the old service, and allowed to switch over at a time of their choosing. Am I the only person who doesn't understand what the big deal is over "push" services? Is hitting the refresh button on your inbox a big deal? I more or less see nothing substantive on MobileMe that wasn't on .mac. Now if I could get BTMM or iDisk on my iPhone, THAT would be great, but the only two USEFUL functions they could have given us they hold back.
 
i have been a member since the old iTools days and i seem to be running ok... yet i never did receive the letter stating my service was going to be extended... at that point i did have a few issues...

hope everything gets sorted out....

now this is totally off topic but i have a .mac Box that i havent opened or used... can i still use that code to renew my MobileMe account i better be able to or that would really piss me off.

Mines working okay except for the fact that I cannot access my address book from within the mail program nor do email address auto fill. Without access to the address book from within MM mail it's pretty pointless for me unless I only want to send an email to one person. Even that is annoying as I have to switch to the address book part, copy, switch back to Mail and paste. They really need to get this fixed. It's been over a week for pete's sake.
 
Mobile Me Erased...

Yeah, I'm not too happy with this mobile me at all. I just lost all my contacts. Anybody have a suggestion?
 
I get these feelings that my email doesn't work because I can go days without getting a single email. It's been a little unnerving so I've resorted to sending test emails from different accounts; AOL, RoadRunner, etc. And they usually go through pretty quick, except for last Wednesday I sent myself a test that took over 5 hours to go through. Scared the crap out of me!
 
MobileMe (FAIL) Email Chat Transcript for 1% - 11am PST 7/21/08

* You are chatting with XXXXXX, a MobileMe Support Representative

*

Hi, my name is XXXXXX. Welcome to Apple! *

XXXXXX: Hello, How may I help you? *
Me.User: Type your response here and press Return to send it... *
Me.User: hello... my mac mail is not working *
Me.User: not sending or receiving *
Me.User: but a sub account under my account is working fine *
Me.User: send and receiving mail *
XXXXXX: Ok. *
XXXXXX: Let me take a look at your account. *
Me.User: I have not been able to get my email since 7/16 when you 'launched' the service *
XXXXXX: Ok *
Me.User: the email that is not working is Me.User@mac.com *
XXXXXX: Thats what I thought.. *
XXXXXX: Your Mail store is down. *
XXXXXX: Your on XXXX, and it is currently being repaired. *
Me.User: yep, one of the 1% *
XXXXXX: Yes.. *
XXXXXX: Unfortunately. *
Me.User: Indeed. *
Me.User: So, any ETA on when mailstore server XXX will be back online or transfered to a working server? *
Me.User: I'm travelling and all my email is not 'bouncing' so my contacts believe I am getting mail. What's up with apple not bouncing mail if my mail server is being 'repaired' ? *
XXXXXX: I dont have one.. *
XXXXXX: I am sorry *
Me.User: I just spent a month getting all of my banking and bills directed to this email account and I'm wondering why is this new service not conforming to internet mail RFC spec and not bouncing my email? *
Me.User: Is it customary for apple to not bounce email is the mail server is 'being repaired' ? *
XXXXXX: I am not sure.. *
XXXXXX: They should not bounce.. *
Me.User: I thought that it should bounce? *
Me.User: The server is down, isn't it? Mail is being undelivered. It should let the senders know that the email is 'undelivered' *
XXXXXX: Usually they just kinda wait for it to come through.. *
XXXXXX: Oh. Yes, They will get that message.. *
XXXXXX: They will not get the email back. *
Me.User: I've sent email for over 48hrs and not received bounces *
Me.User: to my account yet *
XXXXXX: Ok, I am not sure Me.User.. They should be bouncing or waiting to get into the Mail store.. *
Me.User: I'm very troubled by the way Apple is handling this 'outage' *
XXXXXX: I am sorry Me.User. *
XXXXXX: One moment. *
XXXXXX: Apologize. *
Me.User: Clear and open communication about the issue is critical. *
XXXXXX: Me.User, im doing the best I can here.. *
XXXXXX: I wish I could fix it at this second. *
XXXXXX: They are working on it. *
Me.User: I understand. But 5 days without my email contacts getting a bounced email is unacceptable. *
XXXXXX: Im trying to get in touch with a specialist to see what may be going on. *
Me.User: Covering up the problem by not 'bouncing' email is only going to make the problem and consumer backlash that much worse. *
XXXXXX: I dont think we are trying to cover it up. *
Me.User: Surpressing undelivered mail messages for 5+ days to my email account is unacceptable. *
XXXXXX: ok *
Me.User: I'm on the road travelling and not getting my banking email for paying bills that are due *
XXXXXX: I understand.. *
XXXXXX: One moment. *
Me.User: ... *
XXXXXX: I am trying to get ahold of a specialist.. *
XXXXXX: We are extremely busy.. I am going to check and see if they know what is going on.. *
Me.User: No problem. I have all day for it to be resolved. *
XXXXXX: Ok. *
Me.User: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html *
XXXXXX: Thanks *
Me.User: Servers MAY reject or bounce messages when they are not deliverable when addressed. When they do so, they MAY either provide address-updating information with a 551 code, or may reject the message as undeliverable with a 550 code and no address-specific information. But, if a 551 code is used, they MUST NOT assume that the client will actually update address information or even return that information to the user. *
XXXXXX: ok *
XXXXXX: Im still waiting.. *
Me.User: As am I ;) *
XXXXXX: Im not sure what they are going to say besides what Ive told you.. *
XXXXXX: If they have any more information. Hopefully they do. *
Me.User: I hope so as well. *
XXXXXX: I'm sorry for the delay. I'll be right with you. *
XXXXXX: Still waiting. *
Me.User: Still here. *
XXXXXX: ok *
Me.User: I've got to take a phone call for 5mins. I'll still be here though. *
XXXXXX: Ok.. Me to.. *
XXXXXX: I am so sorry about htis.. *
Me.User: I have much patience. I'm here today till its resolved. :) *
XXXXXX: Ok, The reason the messages are not bouncing is that we don't expect the outage to be permanent, so messages are being received and held until the Mailstore comes back online. *
Me.User: for 5+ days?! *
Me.User: I can understand 24hrs holding it but not 5+ days holding it. *
XXXXXX: This is the information the specialist gave me. *
Me.User: Ok. *
XXXXXX: And we have no ETA, Still..... *
XXXXXX: The only thing i can reccomend is o keep an eye on the mobile status page. *
Me.User: Who is the Program Manager responsible for the MobileMe upgrade? *
Me.User: I'd like their email address *
Me.User: I'll wait here whilest you find their email address. *
Me.User: If you could be so kind as to do so, please. :)
XXXXXX: I can not give out that information, Nor do i even know that information. *
XXXXXX: I can only direct you to the feedback page. *
Me.User: I see. *
XXXXXX: I am sorry *
Me.User: As am I, for the Program Manager, as well. *
XXXXXX: Have a good day Me.User. *
Me.User: Thank you, you too XXXXXX. *
XXXXXX: Bye bye *
XXXXXX: I am glad to have been able to help you with MobileMe. If you need assistance in the future please feel free to visit us again.
Type your response here and press Return to send it... web browser selector


:eek::mad:

:apple::mad:

P.S. - This chat took over 45 mins - 1hr time frame.
 
MobileME (APPLE's STATUS PAGE MESSAGES) - 12pm EST - 7/21/08

APPLE's STATUS PAGE MESSAGES:

Latest: System Status

1% of MobileMe members cannot access MobileMe Mail. We apologize for any inconvenience. MobileMe Mail All other MobileMe services are online and fully operational =================================================================================================


System Status Recent History

* 7/19/2008, 22:30 - 7/20/2008, 00:30 PDT * Jul 20, 12:30 AM * MobileMe members could not access MobileMe services. Normal service has been restored. We apologize for any inconvenience.

* 7/18/2008, 16:33 - 7/19/2008, 21:49 PDT * Jul 19, 9:49 PM * 1% of MobileMe members could not access MobileMe Mail. Normal service has been restored. We apologize for any inconvenience.

* 7/18/2008, 16:00-20:00 PDT * Jul 18, 8:18 PM * Some MobileMe members may have been unable to change their password on www.me.com/account. Normal service has been restored. We apologize for any inconvenience.

* 7/18/2008, 10:15-10:30 PDT * Jul 18, 10:58 AM * MobileMe members may have been unable to change their password on www.me.com/account. Normal service has been restored. We apologize for any inconvenience.

* 7/9/2008, 20:00 - 7/16/2008, 22:00 PDT * Jul 17, 4:07 PM * MobileMe members were unable to access groups.mac.com or the HomePage application. Normal service has been restored. We apologize for any inconvenience.

* 7/16/2008, 09:15-23:45 PDT * Jul 17, 12:44 AM * 1% of MobileMe members could not access MobileMe Mail. Normal service has been restored. We apologize for any inconvenience.

* 7/12/2008, 13:00-14:00 PDT * Jul 12, 5:11 PM * MobileMe members may have been unable to sign in to MobileMe in Mac OS X System Preferences. Normal service has been restored. We apologize for any inconvenience.

:apple::mad:
 
Mines working okay except for the fact that I cannot access my address book from within the mail program nor do email address auto fill. Without access to the address book from within MM mail it's pretty pointless for me unless I only want to send an email to one person. Even that is annoying as I have to switch to the address book part, copy, switch back to Mail and paste. They really need to get this fixed. It's been over a week for pete's sake.

You don't have to copy and paste from the address book, I'm lost as to why you are doing it that way? From the address book you just click on the email address and it starts a new message.
 
yeah my me is somewhat spotty too.

calendars dont synch (and all my events somehow disappear)
i have to manual synch to get mail pushed to me...sigh.
address book has been unavailable for what, all last week now??

this is suckie. and top of that, i didnt get a 30 extension for the inconveniece...who got that btw??
 
Yeah, I'm not too happy with this mobile me at all. I just lost all my contacts. Anybody have a suggestion?

Did you lose the contacts from the desktop address book? If not then just sync again and they will be back on the MM address book.
 
Hey All GMAIL IS FREE
and it never goes OFFLINE

Wrong. Of the big three "free" email providers (GMail, Yahoo, MSLive/Hotmail) GMail has the most downtime; the most data loss incidents (even though they've been around a far shorter amount of time); the most data-leaking security incidents; longest time-to-fix on security incidents (some are still open); and are least responsive to requests (many Universities who've outsourced their mail to Google now find their mail blocked by most of the world, because Google won't respond to incidents of cracked accounts being used to send phish messages from that domain).

You may have a personal preference for their mail interface, which is fine (though you're in the minority--their marketshare is small, and declining compared to Yahoo). But that's separate from statement of facts about their reliability which is just horrendous.
 
Now Accepting Sign-ups for 'MobileHelloKitty'

So I waited a week and tried MobileMe last night for the first time and found it barely functional and very sluggish (At best, information synced in 1-6 minutes, at worst... never).

  • Contact notes deleted in me.com are never deleted from Mac or iPhone.
  • Changes only sync to or from the Mac on future syncs, every 15 minutes OR MORE.
  • No synced preferences like “first, last” order in Contacts.
  • No subscribed calendars in me.com or iPhone.
After playing with it for about 6 hours, I stopped all syncs with my Mac and iPhone and cancelled the account--and yet this afternoon I just had to log-in to me.com and delete all my contacts and calendars because nothing had really been deleted from the "cancelled" account.

As a business owner, I understand Apple's viewpoint of controlling the whole user experience, however, there is a point at which trying to do everything yourself can lead to failure. Apple could have written a beautiful seamless front-end on top of a rock-solid Google back-end (in the same way they did for Maps on iPhone) and they would have owned the whole Cloud experience.

I myself am not crazy about becoming overly dependent on Google, but instead of MobileMe I'll mesh iCal with Google Calendar, maybe with some BusySync thrown in.

After going through 3 defective iPhones this week, being thwarted from buying the Apple Bluetooth headset by all the negative reviews, and now this MobileMe flop--I think I'll put my cheerleader uniform back in the closet for a few days.

Maybe take it to the drycleaners. It's looking a little dirty.

:apple: :mad:
 
No Mail in Mail
No Mail on MobileMe
No Mail on iPhone.

I'm seriously unimpressed, given that most people have free e-mail. Money for nothing is not what Apple is all about. Or wasn't.
 
No Mail in Mail
No Mail on MobileMe
No Mail on iPhone.

I'm seriously unimpressed, given that most people have free e-mail. Money for nothing is not what Apple is all about. Or wasn't.

Most people want to use the MM service for calendar sync and data backup (and hosting) more than anything, I think. At least that's what I want to use it for.
 
Yikes

I never really used my .mac too much, but now after reading all your posts (thanks!) I've been too scared to even log in for fear of that triggering some data loss.

I guess I was lucky that they ran out of the iphone I wanted because it sounds like I'd be even more frustrated if I actually had it!

I have to say, Apple always seems to have some bizarre random problems with their products. My nano can't sync contacts, my iCal could never sync to .mac...I've always had these annoying little things that are buggy with most Apple purchases I make. But I still buy Apple stuff despite our abusive relationship.

In any event, I have a friend who works for Apple that tells me horror stories about sloppy, quick code and ridiculous inter-departmental interactions. He makes it sound like quality actually is NOT the focus, disappointingly enough.
 
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