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"The price is so high because Apple replaces the entire top case assembly containing the speakers, keyboard, trackpad, and battery."

So...poor design? That is literally offensive that it would cost that much to fix any laptop's speakers.

As the years go on, they're apparently just sticking everything together than can be. As much as I loved my 2015 mbp, it was not a stranger to this.
 
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The price is so high because Apple replaces the entire top case assembly containing the speakers, keyboard, trackpad, and battery.

Apple continues their tradition of environmentally friendly product designs.

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Remember when Apple was producing reliable laptops?

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This is parody, right? Or sarcasm?

The 15" 2011 MacBook Pro has a ticking time bomb GPU in it - https://www.macworld.co.uk/news/mac...-addressed-by-apple-repair-programme-3497935/ and the 2012 was included in this service program. Do not forget the 2011's SATA issues either - https://blog.macsales.com/10433-macbook-pro-2011-models-and-sata-3-0-6-0gbs-update-5272011 - and here - https://blog.macsales.com/11895-2011-macbook-pro-sata-problems-resolved (HINT: sort of, but not completely solved).

The 15" 2012 Retina MacBook Pro - screen lamination issues, GPU issues (15-inch MacBook Pro Service Extension for video issues program), image retention issue, intermittent SATA issues when running Apple Hardware Test (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203648), trackpad issues, heat issues (enough that people have taken apart their 2012 and reapplied new/better paste and have had success.

If you are being serious, you are romanticizing the 2012 models when they deserve no such ardor. They have had their share of problems and the Retina model was reviled just as much as the 2016-2018 models.
 
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"The price is so high because Apple replaces the entire top case assembly containing the speakers, keyboard, trackpad, and battery."

So...poor design? That is literally offensive that it would cost that much to fix any laptop's speakers.
It's only poor design if they thought the speakers were a part that was likely to need servicing, which in the vast majority of laptops ever sold, they're not.
 
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I truly don't understand replies like this. No one is arguing about profits, it's about the product.
Walmart has insane profits too, yet each time you step in one it's easy to see the experience as tragic.
It's an indicator the vocal minority is wrong. People don't buy stuff because they don't like/want it or it's junk...particularly things that cost actual money.
 
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 MacBook Pro's all had GPU issues. 2016 and 2017 had Keyboard issues. 2018 has a speaker issue, and with the i9, an overheating issue.

Where are you getting reliable from?

So far only the 2014 and 2015 Models have proved to be reliable.

That being said, MacBook Pro is still the way to go as far as laptops go.

Collecting our assortment of 15" 2015 MacBook Pros (all Core i7 2.8Ghz/16GB DRAM/1TB SSD/AMD M370X) together for return to the leasing company and I have the following issues to get fixed.

1) Battery won't charge - shows "Service Battery" in the menu bar icon - battery has 542 cycles, Apple states 1000. Battery is at 69% health via Battery Health. Took delivery of these laptops in August of 2015. Charger and MagSafe connector have burn marks on them and the both the original and replacement charger have duct tape holding them together as the

2) Bulging battery - Boss' mostly stationary MacBook Pro on mDesign Rain Stand...I sit it down on the desk to begin transfer to replacement iMac via Thunderbolt and it won't sit level...WTF? Bulge on the bottom, great, got get that fixed ASAP. Never really wobbled in the stand, so did not suspect it until yesterday. Had to have happened in the last 2-3 months.

3) Black screen on my MacBook Pro even after it supposedly has gone to sleep correctly and absolutely refuses to wake up. Does not do this consistently, except that overnight it is almost guaranteed to do it. Followed instructions to disable Power Nap and it seems to be working now, but not 100% sure. Charger lost one of those flimsy plastic fold out feet used for cable wrap. Really hate those things and the stress on the MagSafe cable as it connects into the brick itself. Had two chargers, one at work and one at home, but sometimes had to take charger with me, tried to wrap carefully, pack carefully, but, snap, there it goes.

4) Other Project Manager's MacBook Pro video went crazy janky, lines, double images, etc. Had to get the motherboard replaced about a 18 months ago under AppleCare (I ALWAYS get AppleCare on a lease). Seems fine subsequent to that, not in my hands yet to verify.

So, generally, the 2015 15" MacBook Pros have been pretty good, but not as great at the hype...the other three seem to be without incident, but I do not have them in my hand yet. YMMV.
 
I'm a full-time editor and use Premiere daily. This issue has presented itself with my 2016 MacBook Pro. I generally use headphones but recently needed to edit using the speakers and afterward was left with a damaged speaker (the right speaker specifically). It's out of warranty and I haven't taken it in to an Apple store but it's interesting to know that others are experiencing similar issues. If it's widespread, hopefully it generates a quality program. Fingers crossed.

Just say the keys stick and get it repaired under the keyboard replacement scheme. They will replace the top case and the speakers. Haha
 
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ARTICLE TITLE:
Some Users Report Adobe Premiere Pro Issue Causing Blown Out MacBook Pro Speakers
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LAST LINE OF THE ARTICLE: It's unclear if Adobe, Apple, or both companies are at fault. We've reached out to both Adobe and Apple for comment.
What a sad way to write an article therein showing an obvious bias against Adobe. Zero journalistic integrity.
 
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"The price is so high because Apple replaces the entire top case assembly containing the speakers, keyboard, trackpad, and battery."

Of course they do. So glad I skipped these new Macbook Pros.
 
Oh wow, this happened to my brand new MacBook Pro. Lucky for me I was still within my 2 weeks. But I remember nothing I did stopped the buzzing from the Mac and it hurt my ears it was so loud.
 
Warranty covers situations where the damage is caused by Apple shipping a product with (probably hidden) defects. If it is Adobe's software causing the problem then this gets tricky.

Speaker being able to destroy itself is a defect.

What's next? You displayed a pure white image on fullscreen and now your display is blown out and the entire top case needs replacing for $1000?
 
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It's an indicator the vocal minority is wrong. People don't buy stuff because they don't like/want it or it's junk...particularly things that cost actual money.

Not necessarily. Noticing decline in quality might not be reflected yet in the sales or majority people might not care at all (branding is important). That doesn't change that the decline in quality might not be fruit of the imagination.

In general, people also buy junk. I can assure you that people buy more McDonald's or junk food than healthy stuff. That doesn't make the junk food better.
 
If one is using the speakers to play a sound that is not natural, they are attempting to use the product for a purpose for which it was not designed or intended. "Playing it wrong" is how Apple can avoid covering this even for machines within warranty.

Apple will update its terms of service to declare any audio source other than Apple Music "may not be supported"
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Not necessarily. Noticing decline in quality might not be reflected yet or majority people might not care at all (branding is important). That doesn't change that the decline in quality might be fruit of the imagination.

In general, people also buy junk. I can assure you that people buy more McDonald's or junk food than healthy stuff. That doesn't make the junk food better.

People buy a lot of junk food but it's cheap. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot more money is wasted on very expensive snake oil. Homeopathy alone is a $18 billion business in the US, not far behind McDonalds.
 
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People buy a lot of junk food but it's cheap. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot more money is wasted on very expensive snake oil. Homeopathy alone is a $18 billion business in the US, not far behind McDonalds.

Yup. The fact is that quality and revenue are not necessarily a reflection of each other. There are way too many variables, especially if the consumer base is large; also, usually those more invested into a product (such as people who register and regularly log on to MacRumors) tend to be more sensitive about qualitative issues than the average consumer.
 
This is why you need to avoid Apple laptops no matter what. At least until they improve the quality /design of the damn thing.

New Apple laptops are like a roulette wheel.

Land on red, something breaks in the bottom half of the case and you need to replace the entire bottom half.

Land on black, something breaks in the top half of the case and you need to replace the entire top half.

Land on 0, the hinge breaks and you need to replace the entire laptop.
 
I just replied to their customer survey saying the same thing. I can't wait for companies like Procreate and Lumafusion to put them out of business.
You assume Adobe won't use a shell company to purchase those companies or simply make a high enough offer and bake their features into their software. They've done it before.

Adobe have probably spent close to $9B in acquisitions in the last 4 years. The assumption that either company would turn down, say, $250M or even a cool billion out of respect for their userbase is a comical belief.
 
I just replied to their customer survey saying the same thing. I can't wait for companies like Procreate and Lumafusion to put them out of business.

You assume Adobe won't use a shell company to purchase those companies or simply make a high enough offer and bake their features into their software. They've done it before.

Adobe have probably spent close to $9B in acquisitions in the last 4 years. The assumption that either company would turn down, say, $250M or even a cool billion out of respect for their userbase is a comical belief.

I almost never agree with Zenithal on anything, but he is correct that Adobe will use its cash and acquisition power to undercut the competition should any of them grow large enough to actually pose a threat to its Creative Cloud products.

The first domino to fall will most likely be Sketch (Bohemian Coding)...I just do not think Affinity Designer or Photo, Pixelmator or Procreate can make a sizable enough dent to scare Adobe. Sketch has been the only app that I have seen make inroads into Adobe territory with hopes of replacing Photoshop or Illustrator, although it is really not direct competition to either. Nonetheless, Sketch is a threat to Adobe.

As for LumaFusion, while it is a great app, it is still too bleeding edge at this point, considering that video editing and production is in its infancy on iOS. The lack of a complete suite of editing tools along with the usual iOS limitations will keep it on the fringes for quite a while. Maybe someday, when you can hook up a Wacom tablet, a USB-C RAID array or attach to network storage, a secondary monitor along with output to a UHD reference display, a BlackMagic Control Panel or a Shuttle Pro and maybe some sort of HDMI/SDI encoder box then LumaFusion will be positioned quite well. We are a few years away from any of that.
 
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