'Steve Jobs' Poised to Become Amazon's Top-Selling Book for 2011

[lukarak]

Ah, meaningless. Why? Because it doesn't suit your side of the argument, that's why. You're as guilty of what you accuse me of, i.e. only seeing one side of the story.

That story/photo is from December 2007, and Android looked nothing like iOS back then. I say again, the development route Android took was heavily influenced, if not directly influenced, by iOS and the iPhone.

It is clearly visible to anybody without bias that android is a direct copy of the iPhone OS.

 

[Oletros]

So, you lambast me for only having a link to Gizmodo, then hit me with a link to CNET, with a different kind of interface, but STILL dated AFTER the unveiling of the iPhone!?! Your CNET story is dated November 2007.

No, I'm still waiting your inside knowledge about wat Android has or what Android didn't had in 2.005, 2.006 or 2.007.

You only have posted a picture of a device to say that they only were like BB nd I have showed you that this is false, that they had touch only hardware.

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It is clearly visible to anybody biases that android is a direct copy of the iPhone OS.

Corrected, you're welcome

 

[lukarak]

Ah, this is all of your knowledge.

Well, you could said before, I would't wasted time with those "this is what Android was before" crap.

Frack, I really thought that you had some inside knowledge to share and not a Gizmodo picture.

Android was built hardware agnostic. Do you like BB style? You have. Do you like touch only? You have.

Ups, from the same date:

http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-6454_7-6596827-2.html?s=0&o=6596827

It exactly proves that Android is just a copy, from the then market leader, which has than evolved to copy the new market leader (or the one with biggest momentum). Pretty pathetic.

 

[WeegieMac]

See below:

"THERE IT IS".

"In particular, they share Steve Jobs' reaction to HTC's 2010 introduction of an Android phone that shared many features of the iPhone. Jobs told Isaacson that Google's actions amounted to "grand theft." Jobs met with Google's Eric Schmidt later and told Schmidt he wasn't interested in settling for any amount of money. Instead Jobs told Schmidt, "I want you to stop using our ideas in Android, that's all I want."

Jobs' attitude against Android helps explains the lawsuits that have come from Apple against both HTC and Samsung. Both legal actions have resulted in countersuits as well as attempts to ban sales of devices around the world."

 

[Oletros]

See below:

Buy people read the things they post.

2.010, TWO years AFTER the first Android device, ONE year after Schmidt left Apple board.

And what features is Jobs talking about?

 

[WeegieMac]

No, I'm still waiting your inside knowledge about wat Android has or what Android didn't had in 2.005, 2.006 or 2.007.

You only have posted a picture of a device to say that they only were like BB nd I have showed you that this is false, that they had touch only hardware.

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Corrected, you're welcome

Other than your ridiculous grammar (not a native English speaker, I don't know), how can you not see the obvious?

Android in the Gizmodo link, dated 12/07 - looked nothing like iOS.

Android in the CNES link, dated 11/07 - looked nothing like iOS.

iPhone unveiled 01/07 ... ie: before the above dates, so the very fact that Android now resembles iOS, is a pretty good indication that Google copied it.

 

[Oletros]

iPhone unveiled 01/07 ... ie: before the above dates, so the very fact that Android now resembles iOS, is a pretty good indication that Google copied it.

And exactly in what resembles iOS? Concrete things

And no, I'm not English and I haven't had any formal education of the language, sorry if it offends you.

 

[blue22]

What's with all the haterade?

Yeah, you make a great case for supporting LTD. He's a professional nobody who's a jerk anyway. What's not to like?

I'm neither here nor there with *LTD* but I really don't understand why people allow themselves to get so bent out of shape by his opinions, as that's all they ever are. Why can't people just agree to disagree instead of character assassinating this person? Sheesh.

 

[maroontiger2k9]

why cant the bookstores price match the online store for at least the 1st week?! paying $34+tax for a hardcover!?

guess i'll wait 3-5 days for my $17.99 amazon order

 

[samcraig]

Fair dues, however in this instance you have as many FACTS as I do.

Neither have concrete facts, we only have opinions based on circumstances.

See below:

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"THERE IT IS".

"In particular, they share Steve Jobs' reaction to HTC's 2010 introduction of an Android phone that shared many features of the iPhone. Jobs told Isaacson that Google's actions amounted to "grand theft." Jobs met with Google's Eric Schmidt later and told Schmidt he wasn't interested in settling for any amount of money. Instead Jobs told Schmidt, "I want you to stop using our ideas in Android, that's all I want."

Jobs' attitude against Android helps explains the lawsuits that have come from Apple against both HTC and Samsung. Both legal actions have resulted in countersuits as well as attempts to ban sales of devices around the world."

You guys keep missing the point. Jobs never accused Schmidt of any wrong doing personally nor did he accuse Schmidt of spying/being a mole.

If nothing else - and given Jobs' personality and this book - if he had thought Schmidt, himself, was backstabbing him - he would have outed him as such. He didn't. He points his finger at GOOGLE.

p.s. Weegie - the difference between you and I is - I'm not making accusations based on opinions or circumstantial evidence. I'm willing to keep an open mind until there comes a time when there ARE facts. If ever.

 

[MightyMac007]

Yeah, you make a great case for supporting LTD. He's a professional nobody who's a jerk anyway. What's not to like?

I'm not attempting to make a case for LTD. He did a good job of that himself. And I don't know LTD enough to like or dislike him/her. I'm just saying that I see, and can relate to, his side of the argument. Actually, I GENERALLY agree with his point of view. Although, everyone says something stupid every once in a while

 

[adrian.oconnor]

It is a great book btw (I am reading on the Kindle - 20% done). If anyone was still undecided - definitely worth reading.

Steve continues to sell

[Edit] Woz comes out as the real hero in the book more than once though. It is unbelievable how much importance Woz's Dad placed on Engineering and how much Woz was into giving away stuff to people for free, helping others etc. Respect.

You should read iWoz next.

 

[PJMAN2952]

Can't decide whether to buy it and read it on my ipad or get the printed version. What would Steve want?

I say the printed version.

 

[bennyboy34]

I debated which format to buy and ultimately decided on the hardcover since Amazon was selling it for only 89 cents more than the ebook edition. If the Kindle or iBookstore editions had been more like $9.99 I might have opted for that instead, but I figure a book like this is iconic enough to own in hardcover. In the meantime, I'll just read the first (free) sample chapter on my Kindle to tide me over until the hardcover arrives in a couple of days.

It's $9.99 on the iBookstore in Australia...

 

[rockrigo]

Their meeting was in Jobs’s conference room, where Gates found himself surrounded by ten Apple employees who were eager to watch their boss assail him. Jobs didn’t disappoint his troops. “You’re ripping us off!” he shouted. “I trusted you, and now you’re stealing from us!” Gates just sat there coolly, looking Steve in the eye, before hurling back, in his squeaky voice, what became a classic zinger. “Well, Steve, I think there’s more than one way of looking at it. I think it’s more like we both had this rich neighbor named Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found out that you had already stolen it.”

 

[movieator]

Hey Hey HEY, dammit!

Don't make me turn this thread around!

 

[*LTD*]

why cant the bookstores price match the online store for at least the 1st week?! paying $34+tax for a hardcover!?

guess i'll wait 3-5 days for my $17.99 amazon order

Given the nature of the subject, the hardcover will sell - probably in record numbers.

It's also an object all its own. There is something to be said for a great book, especially one that is made with care. I support all things digital - first, because the "digital library" is inevitable, and second, because convenience and accessibility need to be a priority - but with each great book that goes out of print, possibly having succumbed to the digital age, we do lose a little something.

You can give me a digital copy of Crime and Punishment and I'll enjoy it. Words are words. But Raskolnikov's redemption (as modest as it may have been) with Sonia at his side, seems to mean more when set in beautiful type in a well-made book.

Long live digital! But my personal library will only see increase (as is materially possible) as the years go by.

 

[iRobby]

I got my iBook last night and now just ordered my hardcover from overstock.com


Subtotal: $15.99
Shipping: $2.95
Total: $18.94

 

[gertruded]

I get a kick out of all the posts on the price of the book. It will be at my public library for free in a few weeks at the most.

 

[monkeylui]

I'm glad I pre-ordered as it was $14.99 at the time. It stuck at that price with Amazon's pre-order price guarantee. Pretty sweet.

 

[emulator]

why cant the bookstores price match the online store for at least the 1st week?! paying $34+tax for a hardcover!?

guess i'll wait 3-5 days for my $17.99 amazon order

buy.com sold it for $10 a couple of days ago.

 

[rman726]

How is it too high?


It costs $16.99. The hardcover in stores is $34.00

Or you can just buy the hardcover for $17.88 on Amazon... I'll chose Amazon. Thanks.

 

[Rafterman]

It's interesting to note, though, how good they are at outright embarrassing their competitors and existing players when they do, to use your expression, "refine" a product. I've never seen any other tech company so quickly and thoroughly relegate other players to oblivion, to the extent that it affects other aspects of their business, and more often than not has them questioning their entire business.

When its all said and done, I still think Apple's greatest "refinement" will be the iTunes store. Apps and media, it is the focal point that all future Apple products will build off of.

 

[W1MRK]

Can not wait to read this. It appears to be a very open biography with a emphasis on truth.

 

[Stairway]

It isn't really necessary to attach a little "but he was arrogant" or "he wasn't nice" proviso to every positive post about the man. It's almost an obligatory activity around here, to bring him down a few notches lest we give him "too much" credit or overstate his achievements. We don't need to scribble in the margins of Shakespeare's plays that he was a jerk or whatever. That isn't the point. Nor is it particularly important or germane to any discussion about his work (or Jobs'.)

The self-righteous around here need to really give it a rest. We know Jobs was flawed, but that's a given. Everyone is to some degree. The obvious need not be emphasized. The only allegedly perfect man to have existed was crucified a long time ago, and in some parts of the world the jury's still out on even that.

Steve Jobs gave himself and his very life (almost down to his "last breath", as it were) for tech and for the ideas that shape it. It was his beautiful obsession, as they say. Some people can only dream of having one. He had a positive impact on our lives. That much is obvious, that much is very apparent. Focus on that, the big picture. If not, then we might as well consign nearly everyone to one or another form of fiery afterlife.

I don't see anything beautiful about SJ's obsession --- this guy cared about money & power; the tech was just a tool he used to get them. You sound like you believe that SJ was some altruistic technological philanthropist, who was obsessed with helping people via new technologies.

P.S. In regards to the "allegedly perfect man who was crucified a long time ago"....there was nothing alleged about it --- He was indeed perfect.