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Glad you are helping with the misinformed... I'm sure they will welcome you with open arms.
I'm afraid you don't stand a chance with this guy ;-) s(he) plans to buy one iphone of each colour ;-)
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ng-several-different-colored-iphones.1937041/
Probably to run tests on battery life and speed. See which color is better.
It's well rumored that the space grey runs circles around the rose gold in regards to battery life.
I stand by my suggestions and i simply don't accept them as trivial. Yes some or most of them have workarounds (and i'm more than happy to get help from you as regards those workarounds), some of them are against Apple's policies & mission, etc. But is it wrong to dream and hope and ask?
Yes i could get a 64GB option but expensive for me. Why no 32GB God would only know.
A bigger battery would be nice & practical. Why? As the OS and hardware improves, more tasks being done and more newer parts are incorporated to each new model a bigger battery would for me is a way forward considering also optimisations to the OS.
Third-party sharing seems still very limited. Yes i can share my notes or photos to other third-party options but even that is very limited. So far i can see that i can share/forward them to an email, Evernote, Outlook (i think), Twitter, Instagram (i think) but not via Google services such as Keep or Drive or bluetooth apart from to other iPhones. Is it crucial for me? Perhaps. Again, i could be wrong on the part of "sharing to other Google services" thingy.
For years i also don't understand why one cannot set an MP3 song as a ringtone on the device itself or having custom equalisers. I'm not an engineer but these suggestions seem almost not rocket science and can easily be implemented by engineers at Cupertino don't you think? And i don't want to get even started with wide angle photos in the iPhone's front-facing camera. (in the 2014 models anyway).
I may sound asking too much but if Apple wants to keep a notch higher (& more) against the competition then...
I rest my case.
But i still think an Apple device means excellent build quality, great battery life, great camera, excellent security & quick updates.
Yes i could get a 64GB option but expensive for me. Why no 32GB God would only know.
A bigger battery would be nice & practical. Why? As the OS and hardware improves, more tasks being done and more newer parts are incorporated to each new model a bigger battery would for me is a way forward considering also optimisations to the OS.
Third-party sharing seems still very limited. Yes i can share my notes or photos to other third-party options but even that is very limited. So far i can see that i can share/forward them to an email, Evernote, Outlook (i think), Twitter, Instagram (i think) but not via Google services such as Keep or Drive or bluetooth apart from to other iPhones. Is it crucial for me? Perhaps. Again, i could be wrong on the part of "sharing to other Google services" thingy.
For years i also don't understand why one cannot set an MP3 song as a ringtone on the device itself or having custom equalisers. I'm not an engineer but these suggestions seem almost not rocket science and can easily be implemented by engineers at Cupertino don't you think? And i don't want to get even started with wide angle photos in the iPhone's front-facing camera. (in the 2014 models anyway).
I may sound asking too much but if Apple wants to keep a notch higher (& more) against the competition then...
I rest my case.
But i still think an Apple device means excellent build quality, great battery life, great camera, excellent security & quick updates.
Nothing is wrong with it. Frankly, you got your answers (you can;t do what you want exactly how you want to do it on iOS). It sounds like you are decided. Nothing wrong with that! Respectfully, there is no reason to keep rehashing the sam thing and rebumping the thread though.
Well, in fact i have not made up my min yet and i'm currently looking for one on Ebay right now. And please stop saying i'm rehashing things. I'm simply making a point and reinforcing my previous statements.
I'm going to address this part and if you think about it, it should be obvious to you as to why Apple does not offer a 32GB version. It's also something that has been discussed to death here.
Apple is a business. They sell many other products than just an iDevice. Some of them aren't physical products. One specific to this topic is iCloud storage.
Given the size of today's apps, music libraries, photos, etc and just the general amount of personal data a person acquires on their devices, unless you are very frugal in your data consumption, then 16GB is insufficient. On average (based on what I see here) the basic customer can comfortably fit their data on a 32GB device. But Apple only sells the 16GB and then jumps to the 64GB.
So you have a choice. Be frugal with your data on the 16GB, or pay less by getting the 16GB AND purchase iCloud storage. OR, buy a more expensive 64GB iDevice.
In ALL of those scenarios, who wins? Not the average customer. Apple wins.
So, the decision is because Apple won't. And Apple won't provide a 32GB device because they will lose money in doing so.
That's why.
I'm only saying what I see. You've said the same thing a handful of times my friend. I'll say it again (me rehashing now). Do what you want (yore already doing that!). There's nothing else that can come of this. Every question you've asked has been answered and this, like many threads, is drawing on and on wit no new information being out on the table.
Best of luck in your final decision.
I can't imagine why anyone would consider a device that aligns so badly with desired features.
Because OP wants "excellent build quality, great battery life, great camera, excellent security & quick updates."
That is something that not even some of the high end Android devices provide.
But the other things the OP is looking for are not available stock. This is why jailbreaking is still popular (and why I jailbreak). For instance, I get "excellent build quality, great battery life, great camera, excellent security & quick updates" but because of jailbreaking I also get a dedicated file manager (iFile).
Works for me.
eyoungren,
I can see Apple is a business and yes i'm very much aware they sell things other than hardware. But, i can't see the "logic" of not selling a 32GB as most people you said would be on the minimum threshold of 32GB as 16GB (that goes down to 12GB minus the OS & other stuff) is not enough. Apple will still make lots of profits if they start selling the 32GB. For me the 64GB is way too expensive.
I'm not into jailbreaking. I would rather wait and see the updates myself as normal. And besides i think it's just a bit technical for me. And it voids the warranty. And Apple will sooner or later patch things up.
I can see Apple is a business and yes i'm very much aware they sell things other than hardware. But, i can't see the "logic" of not selling a 32GB as most people you said would be on the minimum threshold of 32GB as 16GB (that goes down to 12GB minus the OS & other stuff) is not enough. Apple will still make lots of profits if they start selling the 32GB. For me the 64GB is way too expensive.
I'm not into jailbreaking. I would rather wait and see the updates myself as normal. And besides i think it's just a bit technical for me. And it voids the warranty. And Apple will sooner or later patch things up.
When I'm stock I am always painfully reminded that I lost my jailbreak.
Eclipse 3, Monochrome and Color Profiles are powerful tweaks that get rid of that colorful garbage of primary, preschool colors that Jony Ive and Apple want to call iOS. Without them I'm blinded by a sea of white interspersed with constant references to Fisher Price and Playskool.
Sorry.
You are free to do whatever you want with your time. I've never made a "suggestion" to Apple, so don't know what that entails but have to assume there is some time involved. I value my time so wouldn't spend it doing things that I've concluded are futile. If you want to do that, surely you are free to do so.
You are honestly going to say that the different in price between a 32G option and a 64G option would cause you to not be able to afford something that is priced as high as even an entry iPhone? Or are you just wanting them to give you double the memory for the same price. Would you be happy if they raised the price by $50 and only sold a 32G?
My iPhone has the longest lasting battery available in any mainstream flagship smartphone, so I don't understand this comment at all. You said you can't afford the marginal difference in cost between two memory amounts, but would you pay more for more battery capacity? Would you be happy if the phone was heavier and or bigger to hold the larger battery? Can't see how you can complain about something that is best of breed.
I don't even understand what it is you are trying to do here. I use Notes and they are all synced quite nicely across all my devices... I can type a note into exchange on my Windows laptop at work, and it is immediately available on my iPhone. I can type a note into my Mac at home, and it is immediately available on my iPhone. I am pretty sure it can sync with Google as well. Syncing across platforms seems to have been solved quite a while ago, so not understanding what it is you are after.
If this is that important to you, then I guess you can't use an iPhone. As I mentioned above, I don't even know a person that even uses ringtones, and I know a lot of people. Everyone I know thankfully keeps their phones on vibrate. There are ways to make this happen on an iPhone going through iTunes, but that is a workaround that I guess you find unacceptable. Yes, to me this complaint is a bit trivial in the grand list of features on smartphones. There are plenty of things you could come up with on a list that an iPhone does and whatever Android phone you pick doesn't do. At the end of the day, you need to know what your "must haves" are in short listing possible phone options. This feature either is or isn't a must have. Nobody else can tell you what it is for you. For me, its not only not a "must have", its not even an "ever want". This one might be worth complaining to Apple about if its that important.
I doubt that turning MP3s into ringtones is on any companies list of "stay ahead of the competition" strategies. About the only thing on your list here that might make that list is more memory and more battery. They already have won the competition with more battery, so they don't need to do anything to get ahead... they are already ahead. With memory, this is Apple we are talking about. They never push the envelope on things like memory, disk, processor speed, etc. in any of their products, and they've become the most profitable tech company in the world. Quite simply, they are selling these things as fast as they can make them, very profitably, so why would they do something to lower their profit. They are a business after all. Apple doesn't want to sell more phones if the net result is they end up with less overall profit.
And I've given you my case against yours I guess.
I'm confused here... you have better battery life on your list of complaints, but you now say they have great battery life???
This list of "greats" is why people are buying iPhones. You can add "it just works" and "ease of use" to the list. To some people, having access to the file system or a myriad of confusing settings that let me configure every detail of the user interface are not wanted. I'm one of those people. I work in the tech industry and am capable of dealing with complex devices, but my phone is a tool that I want to make me productive, not be a hobby trying to get it to work. There was a point in my life where that wasn't the case, but now I just want the thing to do be reliable and consistent with minimal fuss from me.
I can tell you that for me the security factor is more important than anything you had on your list, and I would gladly pay a premium no never again have to put up with going months without a fix to a major security problem in my phone. A large part of my electronic life is on my phone, and that has a lot of value to me.
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And you take "excellent security" off that list he made by jailbreaking (unless you know what you are doing... which rules out the majority of smartphone buyers). Certainly nice to have the choice, but the vast majority of iPhone buyers aren't looking for weakened security (and stability) so that they can have more configuration options. In some sense, Apple saves people from themselves.
What Apple should do with memory is make 64GB standard, 128GB 1st upgrade, and add 256GB as top tier. That way we can stop rehashing this topic over and over and over. Because it won't be but a year where 32GB will become the new 16GB. Not enough argument.
For me a $800 phone vs $900 vs $1000 are all up there. If I can afford one I can afford the other. I will wait to upgrade if I can't afford the high memory phone. If the difference were $300 vs $1000, then we are talking a more a major issue.
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No, I said comfortably. As in somewhere in the middle between 16 and 32 GB.
If I told you that you could have a 32GB iPhone and all your data (apps, photos, music, etc) on it would leave you with say 8GB of space - would you pay me for iCloud storage?
If I only offered you 16GB or 64 - which option would you take? Would you purchase iCloud storage if you got a 16GB iPhone?
You may be an anonmaly. You may not. But I assure you that Apple has asked itself these questions. And the answers have determined that most people would buy a 32GB iPhone and nothing more. They don't need to. So, removing that choice drives people in one of three directions. And the direction of having to deal only with 16GB is more painful than the price of additional iCloud storage.
Fair enough. Not everyone is. But I'd just say that if you ever rooted an Android device, it's pretty much the same thing (the process I mean)
Sure does. And a restore removes all traces of a jailbreak. And Apple's policy now is that they have to prove that a jailbreak has caused the issue. If they can't, they cannot deny you warranty service even with a jailbreak.
Sure. But most jailbreakers don't update for precisely this reason. Not to mention that sooner or later there is always a new jailbreak.
Not trying to argue that you should jailbreak. I'm just responding to your points.
A debatable point we seem to have a disagreement on. You know where I stand. I acknowledge your view on this.
It's more like when they feel they need to move on from it, since plenty of customers will be buying the cheapest available option, almost no matter what the specs of it are.
I don't think we disagree, because I qualified it with "if you don't know what you are doing". I am going to assume you know what you what you are doing, and are likely secure. But, you also said you tend to not install updates because you don't want to lose your jailbreak. That by definition makes you less secure, but you know that you are making that choice. What I was talking about was that the average iPhone user jailbreaking their phone is an accident waiting to happen with security and stability. If you disagree with that, then I guess we do disagree.
So, maybe I'm just being to liberal with the assumptions, but I took the statement about Apple changing things as a bit of sarcasm. Of course Apple isn't going to come here and say "well, the topic has 17,000 replies. Better get
To changing that pesky base model size."
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