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The kind of people that I despise more than the conforming type who will bend over backwards to fit the perceived mold in order to fit in are who I call the anti-conforming who try in a vain attempt to be unique go against what they perceive as the mainstream.
To quote one of the most pathetic hipsters I ever met, "We are all different. Just like everyone else in this group." Sad thing is she didn't get any of the irony of her statement. She also scowled when I laughed.
 
Out of the thousands of people I've seen in the past year, only like 7 have had Apple Watches or other fitness bands.

A friend of mine got an Apple Watch and I asked him why, he said "I don't know."
I'd say its because he loves the taste of grass.
 
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inb4 oldies posting "it was all better before when we played with our gameboy colours. this generation sucks!!!"
Yep. And it will be all better when we'll play with our HoloLens. This generation sucks again. :D
 
Out of the thousands of people I've seen in the past year, only like 7 have had Apple Watches or other fitness bands.

A friend of mine got an Apple Watch and I asked him why, he said "I don't know."
The better question is asking anyone why they own a traditional watch. Cheap or expensive.

Bands today are just at the tip of going mainstream. With scale, will come the incentive to spend the money to realize the potential. And the potential is certainly there. As soon as the sales numbers start to move, and the components cheaper, expect an exponential boom.
 
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Data is partially useful. When you survey like this, knowledge of family income is essential to make use of the survey data. This looks like a group of upper middle class to upper class group of teens with such a high iPhone preference. I'm sure the number would be much lower if the family income was lower.
To Apple and Apple shareholders, does any income class lower than middle even matter?
 
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"Teen interest in iPhone remains high"

Oh thank goodness. I was afraid my iPhone wasn't cool anymore.
 
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Besides being cheaper, does fitbit really do anything my Apple Watch cannot do?

The key AW functionality that people seem to call out is step tracking and notifications. They say third party applications are useless due to their slowness to load. Many fitbits cover this at a fraction of the cost, and with better battery life. But Garmin wearables sold me. They add 5ATM water proofing to what fitbits have, plus you can spend a little more and get a device with GPS and 3rd party apps and watch faces.

Example: Vivosmart $129 (no GPS, find my phone, time, notifications, step tracking, touch screen)

Example: Vivosmart HR $149 (better, OLED display and wrist heart rate monitoring)

Example: Forerunner 230 $250 (2 week+ battery life, GPS, step tracking, 3rd party apps and faces, find my phone, color reflective always on display, but button-based)

If you want wrist HR or touch screens on forerunner models, Garmins become less cost competitive; but to me, the third killer feature, beside step counting and notifications, is GPS.
 
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So, how old are these "teens"? Anyone between 10 and 19? High school teens?

Anyways, I'm surprised iPhone ownership among this particular group of people isn't higher... I wouldn't be surprised if 95% of high school girls who own smartphones have iPhones.
 
Almost 100% of the reason i dont own one, nothing worse than trying to look different when a whole bunch of young girls use the same phone as you do.

Again, a not enlightened view of why one should own (or not) a thing! Why give so much weight to what a child owns? Can you not decide on factors other than hating the younger generation?

BTW - I am decades away from them and own iPhones from 4 - 6s, the family's youngest owns the 6s, me 4s and 5s 64GB! And, the iPhone 4 still works very well.
 
When interest amongst even teens is so low, you know there is a problem with the Apple Watch.

Not only is interest low, but it is falling. 16% were interested last year, only 10% this year. At least the iPad is showing more solidity, with a slight rise in interest.

Whilst the iWatch has its advocates, I think Apple would be wise to discontinue it, as I believe it is draining their resources and particularly their focus. By resources, I mean attention, not money. And even if it is making them some profit, I think Apple would be better off concentrating on the Mac, the iPad and the iPhone. In particular, they need to take their software and services to a whole new level. They need to blow their competitors out of the water. Slaughter the contenders in tv. Build a cloud service that stamps all over others. Put a smile on MacRumors readers.
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Besides being cheaper, does fitbit really do anything my Apple Watch cannot do?

It saves you $250 and does one thing well.

The Apple Watch does far too much, poorly.
 
Data is partially useful. When you survey like this, knowledge of family income is essential to make use of the survey data. This looks like a group of upper middle class to upper class group of teens with such a high iPhone preference. I'm sure the number would be much lower if the family income was lower.
Do you live in Europe? In US, at least in big cities like NYC or SF, it's very unusual to see a kid with something other than an iPhone. Though, most of those iPhones are repurposed old devices of their parents.
 
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From what my son has told me, a lot of his friends are interested in the Apple Watch, in fact he bought one with his first check from his first job he just started. When he was on the track team, I noticed that most of the kids on the team carried iPhones. I understand this is just a tiny sample, in my neck of the woods, it's just my observations.
 
Although my now-teen daughter grew up on Windows and Android touch devices (partly because only those ran all the Flash player based hugely popular children's games)... she's now definitely in the iPhone camp, locked in because of Facetime and iMessage. Apple was brilliant to wall people in with those apps.

However, she had no interest in the Apple Watch I gave her (and later took back for lack of use). After all, like with many teens, her iPhone is almost always close by and used to respond.

I was a little surprised though, that she and her friends had not yet heard of the iPhone SE. My mistake for telling her. Now she wants one. Oops. :rolleyes:
 
Almost 100% of the reason i dont own one, nothing worse than trying to look different when a whole bunch of young girls use the same phone as you do.
I'm sure teens are using every brand of smartphone and computer.

You're running out of places to hide :)
 
Teens and kids owning iPhones is exactly what puts me off owning one. The iPhone seems to be more of a fashion statement than anything else these days.
So you don't buy things you think will best fit your needs you buy them because they're not "fashion statements"?

Those that have matured buy the items that best fit their needs and don't worry about what others may or may not think.
My 10 and 13 year old kids both have iPhones....... they get the hand me down when my wife and I update every year. Daughter is using my 6plus and my son has a 6...... when we upgrade this year we'll see who wants what. I still have a 4s, 5 and 5s sitting on the shelf at home collecting dust.

my daughter is now showing interest in the watch which she'll get when the new ones come out.... Not sure if my son really cares or not but if he wants one it will be available.
 
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- GPS (Biggest holdout for me right now)
- More of a "band" than a "watch"
- Social fitness

Sure, Apple Watch does a ton of stuff Fitbit doesn't though...

Gps is a big one, I agree.
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The key AW functionality that people seem to call out is step tracking and notifications. They say third party applications are useless due to their slowness to load. Many fitbits cover this at a fraction of the cost, and with better battery life. But Garmin wearables sold me. They add 5ATM water proofing to what fitbits have, plus you can spend a little more and get a device with GPS and 3rd party apps and watch faces.

Example: Vivosmart $129 (no GPS, find my phone, time, notifications, step tracking, touch screen)

Example: Vivosmart HR $149 (better, OLED display and wrist heart rate monitoring)

Example: Forerunner 230 $250 (2 week+ battery life, GPS, step tracking, 3rd party apps and faces, find my phone, color reflective always on display, but button-based)

If you want wrist HR or touch screens on forerunner models, Garmins become less cost competitive; but to me, the third killer feature, beside step counting and notifications, is GPS.

Thanks, you listed done really nice features. Very informative, now I know what to expect and demand from watch 2
 
There have been some very insightful reviews about employee performance and personal history recently as the classic indicators (which school, class grades and society background) was not panning out as good indicators for hiring. They gave a group of people a big questioner and asked a lot of questions. Surprisingly, the assumption of the rank of college or your rank in class had very little static coloration with job performance. What did matter was surprising: interest in a subject related to your current job in an extra-circular activity, a minor discipline record often involving insubordination, consistent social interaction with newly met people and an organized, non-athletic group activity in ones youth. From that, you will see the CEOs.

Not related. I'm only pointing out that a huge % of kids own or desire Apple gear, and statistically many of them will make buying decisions in the future, for example as CEOs.

This bodes very well for Apple, and we're already seeing this generational effect in Mac sales vs. PC.
 
My high school aged daughter put it this way: "All the kids that care about being social with each other have iPhones. The rest have Androids".

By her estimation, her high school is 85% iPhone.

So, Think Different has descended to Think The Same.
Stepford Kids.
 
Teens and kids owning iPhones is exactly what puts me off owning one. The iPhone seems to be more of a fashion statement than anything else these days.

These days? Perhaps you missed the polka dot iMacs and the famous iPod silhouette ads? I don't think kids have iPhones and Macs on their want list b/c they are fashionable -- geez have you seen what passes for teen "fashion"? iPhones and Macs are less confusing than other OSes. That's always been Apple's appeal. Nothing changed there. (Once upon a time Apple devices were intuitive but I can't say that is necessarily the case now so I'll leave it at less confusing).

Also to say you won't own a piece of tech solely b/c kids are attracted to it is silly. Now I totally understand no self-respecting mature adult wants to be seen loafing around town in an Under Armour hoodie. But tech, esp. a smart phone, is about making life easier. The questions should be mature ones like does iPhone do complicated things easily? It is the safest for my data? Perform well? I can't answer for you, but kids shouldn't factor in. Maybe color, but not the iPhone as a device.
 
People who think a phone indicates theirs/others economic level are just poor. If we were talking about limited edition supercars, having contacts in luxury companies or dealers, top yatchs, buildings... OK, but phones? What a joke, who cares if your phone is a huawei or an iphone, both can be bought by anyone in the 1st world, don't you realize this or what?
 
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To Apple and Apple shareholders, does any income class lower than middle even matter?
Yes it does. There is an odd "secondary peak" market just above the poverty level filled by boho, students, coffee house beatniks, hipsters and trust babies that buys Apple products.
 
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