Teen Interest in iPhone Remains High, Apple Watch is Most Popular Smart Watch

[LovingTeddy]

Nonsense. Every non-iPhone I have owned was a piece of junk compared to an iPhone. That's just a fact. Switching to an iPhone is a great awakening. Your post is gadget porn propaganda and dishonest. Case in point the iPhone 5s from 2013. Is there an Android phone from 2013 that anyone would be happy owning today as 5s owners do? Every Android device from 2013 is garbage today whereas the 5s is still an up to date workhorse that trumps in every way most cheap new Android devices.
Any gadget tech site with any shred of integrity would steer their readers away from Android and with the SE, the price excuse goes away. Sadly as we see with the Verge and other sites, the young people they hire have no more business, knowledge or clout in recommending anything to anyone than anyone on the street. And they are certainly not a great service to their readers.

You are the one saying nonsense. Every none iPhone you owned is garbage, it is your opinion. Name few devices you have used?

I can tell I used the following: Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Haiwei Mate 8, Samsung S7, LG G4, Meizu M2 Note, Xiaomi Mi 4 and soon will buy Xiaomi Mi 5. Those are the best Android devices in the past and before.

Nexus 5 was released around 2013, ask any Nexus 5 users and see if they like the devices or not. My old Xiaomi Redmi Note still recevie s MiUI update, Nexus 5 runs latest Android version. One thing I acknowledge is that Android does not have great track record on software update, though I rather stay in older version that runs great on that hardware than update to newer version runs like crap. I rather have a devices let me go back if I am not happy with new software release.

You are the one thinking everything besides iPhone are garbage. Apparently this word is not agreeing with you. You are the one trying to force your idoitc opinion to everyone else.

 

[Jax44]

When analysists make statment in favor of Apple, the statement must be right. When analysis say iPhone sales declining, they these analysists must be fool.

Funny how this logic works at thos thread

Yep, funny but true.

 

[LovingTeddy]

I love lists. Here's my list to counter your list:

1. None of these are or were real "issues," just anti-iPhone fodder.
2. You do not explain why x is better than y.
3. You do not explain why x is better than y.

If you think software update renders your phone useless is none issue, then congratulations, nothing is real issue for you.

Regarding why X is better than Y, it is highly up to the person. I don't feel talking about why Android is better than iOS to an Apple fan, it is like a Christian talking to none believer how great the God is. No matter what I say, you will defend Apple. And this can coitninr forever.

 

[Michael Scrip]

Excellent point. This is ultimately why Andriod phones outnumber iPhones despite popularity. A lot of people get the free with contract Andriod smartphone, not the $850 64GB 6S Plus.

I realized this when I first saw the device numbers of Android phones vs iPhones which didn't match my anecdotal experience. To me it seemed like half of everyone I interacted with had $600+iPhone. The problem: most of my interaction is on a University campus full middle/upper middle class students and I was commuting on a suburban commuter train where the median rider income is $60,000/year.

I wonder how the $399 iPhone SE will do in the future.

Today the "free on contract" iPhone is actually a good iPhone... not a 2-year-old iPhone. This has never happened before.

Though with contracts and subsidies giving way to payment plans... there's not that much difference between the various phones.

Assuming you can afford a cell phone plan from a major carrier in the first place... the phone payment is actually just a small part of that.

Here is a sample of Verizon's monthly device payments:

$31 a month: iPhone 6S Plus
$27 a month: iPhone 6S
$17 a month: iPhone SE

$33 a month: Galaxy S7 Edge
$28 a month: Galaxy S7
$28 a month: LG V10
$26 a month: LG G5
$26 a month: Moto Turbo 2

And at the extreme low-end... you have:

$8 a month: LG Vista
$6 a month: Galaxy Core Prime
$5 a month: HTC Desire 526
$5 a month: LG Lancet

I can't imagine any reason why anyone would go for those ultra cheap phones. Yeah you save money... but you're also getting a terrible phone. That's not a good tradeoff in my opinion.

You're gonna be paying at least $65 a month for the service portion of your bill anyway... so is it really a good idea to skimp on the device portion by choosing the $5 LG Lancet over a $17 iPhone SE ?

The difference is $12 a month... but that extra $12 gets you a MUCH better phone.

Here are the minimum total monthly payments for the above phones on the Verizon Medium 3GB plan:

$70 a month for the LG Lancet
$82 a month for the iPhone SE 16GB

And since you mentioned it:

$100 a month for the iPhone 6S Plus 64GB

I don't think many people (in the US anyway) pay the full price for a phone. The monthly payments make it much more manageable.

So if you see a lot of kids with iPhones... it's not really that much more expensive per month than other phones from other brands.

And these were just single-person plans... it actually gets cheaper with Family Shared plans.

You're gonna be making monthly payments anyway for any smartphone. A family of 4 with the cheapest Verizon smartphone isn't that much cheaper than a family of 4 with iPhones.

My point is... you don't necessarily have to be upper-middle class for your kids to have iPhones.

Every family has a phone payment. And you only have to pay a little bit more to get a better phone.

 

[Tycho24]

Almost 100% of the reason i dont own one, nothing worse than trying to look different when a whole bunch of young girls use the same phone as you do.

You could try buying some clothes??

 

[1applerules1]

Try ordering dominos on a Fitbit

 

[miniyou64]

I had to say Start an outdoor walk 3 times to get my watch to start the workout app. Its a cool concept with poor execution. By the time I can do ANYTHING on my watch, if I'm able to at all I could have pulled out my phone and done it in half the time

 

[RockSpider]

You could try buying some clothes??

Cant afford them, spend all my money on tech.
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Try ordering dominos on a Fitbit

Bad example.

 

[Michael Scrip]

I havent seen too many teens using the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, so I'm pretty safe at the moment.

Crisis averted

 

[Kaspersky]

nah... I don't buy this one.

 

[maxsix]

Teens and kids owning iPhones is exactly what puts me off owning one. The iPhone seems to be more of a fashion statement than anything else these days.

Apple the Corporation via Steve Jobs himself, spent massive amounts of money and other resources creating the image of a Cool company, offering cool products for the cool people.

Vanity driven sales have served Apple well for decades.

 

[thasan]

Besides being cheaper, does fitbit really do anything my Apple Watch cannot do?

Yes... Fitbit lasts longer than Apple Watch between charges not a feature in strict terms but that was a deal breaker for me.

 

[vmistery]

Well in the UK this is certainly not the case. There are a lot of iPhones but probably something like 30-40% I'd estimate.

 

[Tech198]

What teen today *wouldn't* want an iPhone ... I guess depends where u are..

Apple watch (meh..) ....

 

[Amazing Iceman]

I wonder if the 63% of teens who plan to get their first tablet have also realized the price increase of the iPad Pro?

If they were raised to believe they deserve everything they ask for, then I don't believe they will care about any price changes at all. However, parents will.

 

[Tubamajuba]

If you think software update renders your phone useless is none issue, then congratulations, nothing is real issue for you.

Regarding why X is better than Y, it is highly up to the person. I don't feel talking about why Android is better than iOS to an Apple fan, it is like a Christian talking to none believer how great the God is. No matter what I say, you will defend Apple. And this can coitninr forever.

This is interesting, coming from the person who is bashing Apple no matter what other people say.

If you're interesting in touting Android phones as being universally superior to iPhones yet you don't want to talk about it with Apple fans, why don't you go to an Android forum? You're literally going to be doing nothing on these forums except for the exact thing you say you don't want to do.

 

[LovingTeddy]

This is interesting, coming from the person who is bashing Apple no matter what other people say.

If you're interesting in touting Android phones as being universally superior to iPhones yet you don't want to talk about it with Apple fans, why don't you go to an Android forum? You're literally going to be doing nothing on these forums except for the exact thing you say you don't want to do.

The characteristics of Apple fans are well know. The ingrances and religiously defending Apple no matter what is also sell known.

I said what I have to say in previous post. I won't repeat.

Android phone now days are far different from Android phone old days. Even my cheap 150 Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 or Meizu M2 Note runs perfectly. Android gets its own set of problems, including software updates. Android phone now days, including entery level phones are not garbage, let alone all these flagship Android phone. To say flatout Android phone is garbage is ingrances.

One more thing, Android is way superior than iOS depends on how you look at this. If you care about so called updates forever, then yes, Android is not better than iOS. Then you are dealing with graduate slowing down on your phone and you would have to buy new phone to get the speed.

If you look at usability and easier to access stuffs, Android is way better. You would have to get features you want from Apple, but you don't have to with Android. It is way easier to transfer stuff on Android phone than iOS devices, it is way easier to store downloaded files on Android than iOS (foe example, I can easily open .flac file that I downloaded from internet and open with any music app on Andriod, where I have to download on my PC/Mac than use iTunes to transfer.) There are just few things Android is superior than iOS.

You could say, you care none of these. So it is depends people. I care ease of use and iOS is certain not any easier to use than Android.

 

[masotime]

Every Android device from 2013 is garbage today whereas the 5s is still an up to date workhorse that trumps in every way most cheap new Android devices.

Actually I feel there's an exception to that... the LG Nexus 5, which was launched in 2013.

 

[MacBH928]

iPhone is definitely my choice but I encourage choice/alternative, hope to see more reliable phone out there

 

[Glassed Silver]

And these kids are the CEOs of tomorrow.

Looking at today's CEOs I think it can only get better.

But it's an eternal phenomenon that the older generations look down on the younger generations.
Every. Damn. Time.

The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.

Sounds familiar? It's Socrates.

Glassed Silver:mac

 

[richwoodrocket]

As a teenager, I have no interest in smartwatches.

 

[StoneJack]

Apple has very strong following among young people, even stronger than in older generations (who knew BB, Nokias or Siemens). And that's Apple's strength. It also seems that even geeks don't like tinkering with myriads of Android preferences, generally viewing them as phones with poor user experience.

 

[nando87]

Apple has very strong following among young people, even stronger than in older generations (who knew BB, Nokias or Siemens). And that's Apple's strength. It also seems that even geeks don't like tinkering with myriads of Android preferences, generally viewing them as phones with poor user experience.

Apple's strength is the iPhone, iPhone=Apple, Apple=iPhone. If they don't create a new mainstream product, Apple is going nowhere. The macs they sell are residual for their size as a company, and many of them are sold because their buyers have an iPhone. That's why they're losing market cap like hell since some months ago and why they have always had a very low price to earnings ratio, this quarter they'll enter recession. It may be fresh news to you but it's very old news to everyone in wall street. They have a lower real market cap than in 2012 (700 pre 7:1 split vs 110 being its highest price in weeks, with less shares), go figure. They're not able to maintain their share price even with a gigantic buyback going on, and they're spending huge loads of money on that buyback because they know there's nothing in their pipeline that can sustain their stock. Simple as that, Apple is living on the iPhone and on SJ's legacy, but that is a very short living recipe, we're talking about consumer tech here, this is exactly what happened to nokia if they don't advance.

"Android" is not a company, it's just free stuff. When the smartphone's era ends, the hardware companies which create android phones will continue building other hardware like they do now, and google will continue to offer and create services. Apple is crap at services and they are not hardware assemblers, so what happens then? There is not any other company on earth which depends so much on the smartphone as a concept as Apple. And it can be 5 or 10 years, but the smartphone, like the dumb phone, like the mp3 player, like the discman, like the vinyl player... will get obsolete as a product category.

 

[LovingTeddy]

Apple has very strong following among young people, even stronger than in older generations (who knew BB, Nokias or Siemens). And that's Apple's strength. It also seems that even geeks don't like tinkering with myriads of Android preferences, generally viewing them as phones with poor user experience.

Poor users experience is depends on people and billions of people using Android everday. Android is far from old days where you have do tons of stuff to get it work. Now days, you don't have to anything to get good performances.

And look at Apple's earning, huge chunk of Apple's earning is iPhone. Do you really think Apple can ride iPhone train forever? Once the competitions catch on and iPhone fever is over, what Apple gonna do. We already seen iPhone starting loss its appeal, that is why Apple is doing everything they can to expand iPhone market, including setting lower priced iPhone and trying to fit everyone by releasing multiple sizes.

I don't know about this survey, if you actually look around, there are more teens carrying none iPhone than any time before. Certain people around me carrying Samsung, LG, Nexus or even OnePlus

 

[maxsix]

The characteristics of Apple fans are well know. The ingrances and religiously defending Apple no matter what is also sell known.

I said what I have to say in previous post. I won't repeat.

Android phone now days are far different from Android phone old days. Even my cheap 150 Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 or Meizu M2 Note runs perfectly. Android gets its own set of problems, including software updates. Android phone now days, including entery level phones are not garbage, let alone all these flagship Android phone. To say flatout Android phone is garbage is ingrances.

One more thing, Android is way superior than iOS depends on how you look at this. If you care about so called updates forever, then yes, Android is not better than iOS. Then you are dealing with graduate slowing down on your phone and you would have to buy new phone to get the speed.

If you look at usability and easier to access stuffs, Android is way better. You would have to get features you want from Apple, but you don't have to with Android. It is way easier to transfer stuff on Android phone than iOS devices, it is way easier to store downloaded files on Android than iOS (foe example, I can easily open .flac file that I downloaded from internet and open with any music app on Andriod, where I have to download on my PC/Mac than use iTunes to transfer.) There are just few things Android is superior than iOS.

You could say, you care none of these. So it is depends people. I care ease of use and iOS is certain not any easier to use than Android.

My personal first hand ownership experience with several of the current brands and models of Android Smartphones from companies like Huawei, Oppo, Meizu, LG, Xiaomi and others has been excellent.

Even budget models function very well, do what they're designed to do, all while remaining brisk, smooth and quite reliable. There's a lot to be said for that.