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If a computer designer was going to design jewelry, it would look like the Apple Watch. There is a reason why we have designers that specialize in specific industries.

Let's just hope John Ive doesn't start designing clothes!
 
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Abysmal numbers for the Apple watch.
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Teens and kids owning iPhones is exactly what puts me off owning one. The iPhone seems to be more of a fashion statement than anything else these days.

No, it actually performs too. It has a massive store filled with content. It's massively accepted because of what it can do, not because it is some fashion statement.

People have found a way to make the phone a part of the life which is why they dress it up and make it fashionable. Some people are like that. So many have adopted it that I think you are mistaking it's popularity for some sort of fashion trend.
 
The characteristics of Apple fans are well know. The ingrances and religiously defending Apple no matter what is also sell known.

I said what I have to say in previous post. I won't repeat.

Android phone now days are far different from Android phone old days. Even my cheap 150 Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 or Meizu M2 Note runs perfectly. Android gets its own set of problems, including software updates. Android phone now days, including entery level phones are not garbage, let alone all these flagship Android phone. To say flatout Android phone is garbage is ingrances.

One more thing, Android is way superior than iOS depends on how you look at this. If you care about so called updates forever, then yes, Android is not better than iOS. Then you are dealing with graduate slowing down on your phone and you would have to buy new phone to get the speed.

If you look at usability and easier to access stuffs, Android is way better. You would have to get features you want from Apple, but you don't have to with Android. It is way easier to transfer stuff on Android phone than iOS devices, it is way easier to store downloaded files on Android than iOS (foe example, I can easily open .flac file that I downloaded from internet and open with any music app on Andriod, where I have to download on my PC/Mac than use iTunes to transfer.) There are just few things Android is superior than iOS.

You could say, you care none of these. So it is depends people. I care ease of use and iOS is certain not any easier to use than Android.
You're kind of preaching to the choir here. I understand that most of today's Android phones are very good, and Android definitely has some concrete advantages over iOS. But I choose the iPhone because it does everything I need it to do in a way that I enjoy using. The "feature gap" has shrunken considerably between the last two years, to the point that iOS does most things that most people want it to do. But yes, there are and always will be people that will be better served by Android.

That's not the point I was trying to make though... are you hoping to change minds around here?
 
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We already seen iPhone starting loss its appeal, that is why Apple is doing everything they can to expand iPhone market,,I don't know about this survey, if you actually look around, there are more teens carrying none iPhone than any time before. Certain people around me carrying Samsung, LG, Nexus or even OnePlus

Well, I don't know people around you but survey shows an INCREASING interest in iPhones, rather than Android. Unless you provide another surveys refuting the original claim, your view of teenagers with Nexus can't be counted as a valid argument. Thats' your whole post is actually kinda missing the point.
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Apple's strength is the iPhone, iPhone=Apple, Apple=iPhone. If they don't create a new mainstream product, Apple is going nowhere. The macs they sell are residual for their size as a company, and many of them are sold because their buyers have an iPhone. That's why they're losing market cap like hell since some months ago and why they have always had a very low price to earnings ratio, this quarter they'll enter recession. It may be fresh news to you but it's very old news to everyone in wall street. They have a lower real market cap than in 2012 (700 pre 7:1 split vs 110 being its highest price in weeks, with less shares), go figure. They're not able to maintain their share price even with a gigantic buyback going on, and they're spending huge loads of money on that buyback because they know there's nothing in their pipeline that can sustain their stock. Simple as that, Apple is living on the iPhone and on SJ's legacy, but that is a very short living recipe, we're talking about consumer tech here, this is exactly what happened to nokia if they don't advance.

"Android" is not a company, it's just free stuff. When the smartphone's era ends, the hardware companies which create android phones will continue building other hardware like they do now, and google will continue to offer and create services. Apple is crap at services and they are not hardware assemblers, so what happens then? There is not any other company on earth which depends so much on the smartphone as a concept as Apple. And it can be 5 or 10 years, but the smartphone, like the dumb phone, like the mp3 player, like the discman, like the vinyl player... will get obsolete as a product category.

So the survey is about increasing interest of youth in iPhones and you talking about 10 year future where smartphones are obsolete? I think you have nothing to say about the original survey. Stock prices also have nothing to do with the survey as well. SJ has passed 5 years, and if I am not mistaken, market cap of Apple increased, with stock prices rising from 56 in October 2011 (when SJ passed) to 111 as of today or doubled. So you full of ****
 
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I wonder if the 63% of teens who plan to get their first tablet have also realized the price increase of the iPad Pro?

Ummmm... are all first Mac purchases a Mac Pro?? Are all first Apple notebook purchases a MacBook Pro??
Why in the eff would you assume that all first ever tablet purchases be of the newly minted & more expensive iPad Pro variety??
Lots of "professional teenagers" where you're from, lol??
 
That's a pretty big swing for Fitbit in ~6 months. I imagine a chunk of kids in most schools around the nation got one for Christmas to drive the sudden spike in "Most Preferred"... gotta fit in after all.
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inb4 oldies posting "it was all better before when we played with our gameboy colours. this generation sucks!!!"

Game Boy Color? Youngin'! Us older folk played our Game Boys in 4 shades of Olive Green and liked it! And if we wanted to play at night we bought a Light Boy to saddle on the thing!
 
The kind of people that I despise more than the conforming type who will bend over backwards to fit the perceived mold in order to fit in are who I call the anti-conforming who try in a vain attempt to be unique go against what they perceive as the mainstream. iPhones are by far the most elegant, simplistic, and reliable smartphones in the market and that is why I will keep owning one

Almost 100% of the reason i dont own one, nothing worse than trying to look different when a whole bunch of young girls use the same phone as you do.

So you don't buy things you think will best fit your needs you buy them because they're not "fashion statements"?

Those that have matured buy the items that best fit their needs and don't worry about what others may or may not think.
My 10 and 13 year old kids both have iPhones....... they get the hand me down when my wife and I update every year. Daughter is using my 6plus and my son has a 6...... when we upgrade this year we'll see who wants what. I still have a 4s, 5 and 5s sitting on the shelf at home collecting dust.

my daughter is now showing interest in the watch which she'll get when the new ones come out.... Not sure if my son really cares or not but if he wants one it will be available.

These days? Perhaps you missed the polka dot iMacs and the famous iPod silhouette ads? I don't think kids have iPhones and Macs on their want list b/c they are fashionable -- geez have you seen what passes for teen "fashion"? iPhones and Macs are less confusing than other OSes. That's always been Apple's appeal. Nothing changed there. (Once upon a time Apple devices were intuitive but I can't say that is necessarily the case now so I'll leave it at less confusing).

Also to say you won't own a piece of tech solely b/c kids are attracted to it is silly. Now I totally understand no self-respecting mature adult wants to be seen loafing around town in an Under Armour hoodie. But tech, esp. a smart phone, is about making life easier. The questions should be mature ones like does iPhone do complicated things easily? It is the safest for my data? Perform well? I can't answer for you, but kids shouldn't factor in. Maybe color, but not the iPhone as a device.

Apple the Corporation via Steve Jobs himself, spent massive amounts of money and other resources creating the image of a Cool company, offering cool products for the cool people.

Vanity driven sales have served Apple well for decades.

No, it actually performs too. It has a massive store filled with content. It's massively accepted because of what it can do, not because it is some fashion statement.

People have found a way to make the phone a part of the life which is why they dress it up and make it fashionable. Some people are like that. So many have adopted it that I think you are mistaking it's popularity for some sort of fashion trend.

I think some of you misunderstood me. I'm not one of those douche hipsters that buy things for the sake of not trying to conform to the mainstream. My argument was simply that too many kids are buying iPhones these days not because of the features, it's specs, it's functions, it's build quality, iCloud, Apple Music, Apple Pay etc etc, but more simply just because it's perceived to be as the 'cool' thing to have to impress your friends and appear fashionable. Many kids (and adults) don't even know half of it's features but just want the iPhone because of the name, not it's real value or worth. I'm generalising here, but more often than not, that's the reality. This reminds me of when Blackberry were at their prime - every kid in school had a Blackberry phone - a phone oriented towards businessmen and woman at the time.

I love and own several Apple products, but I have my reasons for choosing to buy a particular Apple product over that of another (though less and less these days :)). But many non-iPhone users now tend to perceive us as uneducated 'iSheep' and the growing trend amongst kids owning one doesn't help.

Yes, Apple's strong appeal is it's marketing and design ethos and it's proven more than successful. It's why many buy their products, including myself. But that also means that many are falling into the trap of choosing form over function, being dazzled with the the design of Apple's products, but not really knowing it's substance and how it compares with others in the market. I see vanity-driven sales as a disease amongst society.
 
Teens and kids owning iPhones is exactly what puts me off owning one. The iPhone seems to be more of a fashion statement than anything else these days.

I don't get this logic to be honest. If the device works for you, is in your budget, etc, why would other owners of it put you off?
 
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Teens and kids owning iPhones is exactly what puts me off owning one. The iPhone seems to be more of a fashion statement than anything else these days.

you shouldn't let other humans owning a fantastic phone stop you from owning it. That's doing the same thing you are accusing them of...making a statement.
 
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Teens and kids owning iPhones is exactly what puts me off owning one. The iPhone seems to be more of a fashion statement than anything else these days.
That's exactly why I stay with my iPhone and don't experiment with Android...iMessage and FaceTime with the kids. One of my nieces has a very inexpensive android cell phone of some kind and texting with her is very challenging. Especially since her phone has a very cumbersome method of inputting text. And we have to be mindful of text limits on her payment plan. Since her father passed away I am trying very hard to stay in touch and I would dearly love to pass along one of our older iPhones to her but her mother is very anti Apple for some reason. The rest of the family uses iPhones and iPads, which makes staying in touch easier.
 
I think some of you misunderstood me. I'm not one of those douche hipsters that buy things for the sake of not trying to conform to the mainstream. My argument was simply that too many kids are buying iPhones these days not because of the features, it's specs, it's functions, it's build quality, iCloud, Apple Music, Apple Pay etc etc, but more simply just because it's perceived to be as the 'cool' thing to have to impress your friends and appear fashionable....

But many non-iPhone users now tend to perceive us as uneducated 'iSheep' and the growing trend amongst kids owning one doesn't help.

Right, but again, why do I care if kids are buying iPhones for fashion or non-iPhone users (strangers) are going to judge me? If a product works for me I buy it. What you are suggesting is that you are not going to buy an iPhone for appearances. What is the difference between buying and not buying an iPhone so you can be judged how you want strangers to view you?
 
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I wonder how high teen interest in iPhone would be if they were paying for it (as opposed to their parents)?
That's a good question.

Most of the teens I know who have iPhones have been using hand-me-downs from parents and extended family. But that's changed a bit since some of the adults have gotten the Plus size iPhones.

Not very many of the teens (strictly speaking about my circle of friends and family) want to carry an iPhone that big. My daughter certainly didn't and turned down my offer of my iPhone 6plus and kept my old 5s even though the battery is pretty crappy now. We will get her an SE eventually.

The pre-teens use mostly iPod touches and iPads for texting and FaceTime.

Edit to add nobody in our family wants my 6Plus or my husband's. The elders hate the size of it. I would have thought they would love a larger screen but they got used to the old smaller iPhones we gave them before and do not want to change. We didn't turn them in to AT&T Next when we upgraded so we may sell them or find another use for them. The kids aren't interested either.
 
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My high school aged daughter put it this way: "All the kids that care about being social with each other have iPhones. The rest have Androids".

By her estimation, her high school is 85% iPhone.

It is interesting because teens have always been considered ahead of the curve on tech trends. Marketing departments of tech companies study them like crazy.
 
Good question. All I have to say is they better not have it with just a USB-C connector on the sides.



With over ten million units sold. More people than you will ever meet in your life says otherwise.


Apple never disclosed Apple Watch sale figure. How do you know Apple sold over 10 million units? Because analysists said so? They also predict iPhone sales is declining...
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It is interesting because teens have always been considered ahead of the curve on tech trends. Marketing departments of tech companies study them like crazy.


It is funny... When I was in high school, we thought carrying Sony Walkman was cool and I still have that cassette player. Then we thought Sony MD player was super cool...

When iPhone cames alone, I was still using BlackBerry. I stayed with BlackBerry curve until 2013...
 
Do you live in Europe? In US, at least in big cities like NYC or SF, it's very unusual to see a kid with something other than an iPhone. Though, most of those iPhones are repurposed old devices of their parents.

In Germany only 15% of smartphones are iPhones.
It's probably a cultural difference, Germans regardless of income are very cost effective people and showing off wealth isn't appreciated. We just like understatement.

The most people running around with iPhones in Germany are hipsters or low income people, it's probably the only luxury they can afford. I don't know a single engineer or programer using iPhone, only some business administration guys.
 
How can anyone take this BS seriously. He's extrapolated all that data from a sample size of 6500 teenagers. This is the same guy who has based his analysis in the past on counting the number of people in line waiting outside the Apple Store.

It's not surprising the Apple Watch is waning when they've targeted it so firmly at fitness fanatics and fashionistas. It might describe Tim Cook, but I wonder how many Apple fanboys fall into either of those categories. I know I don't fall into either which is why I haven't purchased one.
 
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How can anyone take this BS seriously. He's extrapolated all that data from a sample size of 6500 teenagers. This is the same guy who has based his analysis in the past on counting the number of people in line waiting outside the Apple Store.

It's not surprising the Apple Watch is waning when they've targeted it so firmly at fitness fanatics and fashionistas. It might describe Tim Cook, but I wonder how many Apple fanboys fall into either of those categories. I know I don't fall into either which is why I haven't purchased one.
I don't fall into either of those categories, but I absolutely love my Watch. They've done plenty to market it as a convenience device as well.

The truth is that, like every other 1st gen Apple product, sales are decent. They don't really boom until the 2nd gen corrects all of the mistakes from the 1st.
 
"Slighty" biased article. I work in mobile gaming company with millions of teen users. Android has 60-90% market share among teens depending on country. iOS is not most used anywhere. Android is de facto standard among teens. It's the adults who use iOS. Adults also spend more money on apps.
 
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