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Tesla says Apple doesn’t make enough changes?

How do you tell a 2010 Model S from a 2020? Get in the car, turn it on, go into settings and click “About.”

There was no Model S in 2010 but it is pretty easy to tell the difference between a "2012" Model S (its first year) and a "2020" just by looking at it.

While there certainly haven't been any significant Model S design changes, there have been some.


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Ummm...no I haven't. Not even sure what plegerizing is, but my content was entirely my own. What have I supposedly 'pleged'?

I also notice that someone else typed 'Yes' earlier, so I guess you've plegerized, too???
Calm down. It wasn’t directed at you. It was my mistake. I would have removed that post but now you have quoted it.
 
Hes not wrong though, Since Tim Cook Apple has played it very safe and has not really done a lot of exciting updates to the iPhone for example. The X was the big leap but since then innovation has stalled. The Apple Watch as well. I upgrade annually, but lets be real, Apple has not innovated in a long time.
I'm not the biggest Tim Cook fan, but the AirPods, and the Apple Watch were game changers, especially the Apple Watch as far as health device. Then there is the M series of chips, which flipped the processor industry on its head.

Some other interesting changes happened under him as well, such as forking iOS to create iPadOS.

It's not like Steve came out with innovations every couple of months. But I do agree with you in part - its not as fun when a manager runs Apple, than a person who truly gets and has a vision for technology.
 
I disagree, there is something to look forward to: the new Apple product I got having hopefully no quality control issues.
I’ve not had a single one so far that didn’t require me to return it because the screen or some other part was defective right out of the box ?
Good for you, millions others have had things like that happen….
 
agreed, more people should read your post before taking shots at elon, not to mention he also flipped the space industry on it's head, reusable rockets? that stuff is no longer science fiction.
Not only reusable, but they can land! That’s the coolest part!
 
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I agree, sometimes the rumors are more fun than the launches. Or the rumors skew my resentment to a feature “promised” that wasn’t delivered. But they can only innovate and remake an iPhone so many times. As where Tesla, electric car is newish technology now. But soon all their cars with look the same, with minor improvements, with a million other cars doing all the same things.
 
when someone what looks like out of the blue throws out words like that about another company - that tells you something about the professionalism and integrity of that person ...
 
hello, macrumors users. no need to get offended. they attacked apple, not you.
Hey buddy, stop the sillines. Franz low budget comments are an offense to rational thinking. Have you seen the autopilot in Tesla. It is scary. He is a total idiot.
 
i take issue with several things; but mostly his lack of awareness of Canoo.. the startup EV company 'with style' and whose former CEO was hired-away by Apple for.. Apple car or some grand unannounced joint venture; they previously denied. But there's lots quiet about it; and Canoo is moving into a building by Walmart in Bentonville Ak; so just postulating; can you imagine that Apple IS involved in this and so is Walmart? Just speculating and yes I have a refundable deposit on the Canoo Adventurer vehicle and I like the stock. If they execute plans well; their pickup will be out well before Tesla's.
I just googled that company and I’d say Tesla don’t have much to worry about but we shall see I guess.
 
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Apple does not need any of you loyalists to defend them. It’s a company…not a friend or family. Some people are just lonely I guess.
 
Oh, now I know why Teslas look slightly dumpy, same design guy as Mazdas. No wonder he's dumping on Apple, his designs aren't as good and he knows it.
 
when someone what looks like out of the blue throws out words like that about another company - that tells you something about the professionalism and integrity of that person ...
pretty much, yes! ? and it was very much out of the blue
i’m not sure i’d go that far though, i mean, he was probably just having a really bad day or something? but still… ?
 
It's not like Steve came out with innovations every couple of months. But I do agree with you in part - its not as fun when a manager runs Apple, than a person who truly gets and has a vision for technology.
Also too, it’s possible to pick all the low hanging fruit in a certain sector to where it’s darn near impossible to disrupt anymore?

The world hasn’t “invented” many new standard orchestral instruments in the past 50+ years, has it?

The world hasn’t “invented” many new, original-looking automobiles in the past 10+ years, has it?

The word hasn’t “invented” many tragically original instant classics in the pop music world in the past 15+ years, has it?

Apple smartly exploited the opportunities in the MP3 player, phone, earbud, and laptop hardware areas and hit home runs that still lead today. The Apple Watch is a boon for its health-monitoring aspects. Apple smartly, creatively, and innovatively refined and improved the Windows OS-type interface to where it was once the “it just works” leader. (Now I’m afraid their interfaces are too mired in being fashionably fresh that they’ve lost a lot of the intuitive “it just works”-ness, and hopefully temporarily). CarPlay is pretty darn innovative too (and much better than any hard-wired GPS/infotainment system).

So hopefully there’s still room in the automotive, VR, and who knows what’s next. But it’s awful hard to schedule inventions after a while.
 
As an apple investor, comments like these actually excite me because the competition is tipping their hand that their worried. The last time we saw competing brands feel the need to put apple down like this was when the iPhone first launched, and we all know how that worked out.
I can’t stand dangling modifiers.
 
All of you guys bashing on him miss the point. It’s not about aesthetics it’s about innovation and that wow factor Apple used to have under Jobs. It is completely missing under Cook. A new phone every year is not innovating…it’s planned obsolescence. And are you really saying the recent MBP models are innovative in any way other than the new chips. Tesla have been so innovative they single handedly changed the car industry.
 
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The world hasn’t “invented” many new standard orchestral instruments in the past 50+ years, has it?
i guess not, no.

The world hasn’t “invented” many new, original-looking automobiles in the past 10+ years, has it?
other than the Cybertruck? no.

The word hasn’t “invented” many tragically original instant classics in the pop music world in the past 15+ years, has it?
yes. do you not listen to new music? lol
 


Tesla design chief Franz von Holzhausen recently commented on Apple's design principles and product launches, lamenting that Apple doesn't deliver something "to look forward to."

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During a podcast interview with Spike Feresten of Spike's Car Radio (via iPhone in Canada and Sawyer Merritt), Holzhausen said that Apple's devices are "just a continuation" and a "slight refinement on the same thing."

He also said that he "hates to say it" but he wears an Apple Watch "just because of the fitness thing side to it. Otherwise I haven't really found much purpose to it, other than the fitness part."

Holzhausen is responsible for designing the Tesla Model S, the Model 3, the Model X, and the Model Y, along with the unreleased Cybertruck. He has been with Tesla since 2008, and before that, he was the chief of design at Mazda and led the design of the Mazda Kabura concept car.

Apple and Tesla have a long history of poaching employees from one another, and Tesla CEO Elon Musk has also publicly sniped at Apple. Back in 2015, Musk famously called Apple the "Tesla Graveyard," and claimed that "if you don't make it at Tesla, you go work at Apple."

Article Link: Tesla Design Chief on Apple Products: 'There's Nothing to Look Forward To'
Teslas design is the main thing holding me back. I think they get uglier for every model.
 
yes. do you not listen to new music? lol
I do when forced. Let’s you & me meet in 50 years at a wedding and see if we hear more songs from the 40’s-90’s than 00-20’s…. :)

I’m willing to bet $10 we’ll hear more Earth Wind & Fire before we hear something released in the last 5 months by…hmmm can’t think of anyone noteworthy. :)

Cybertuck isn’t manufactured yet, doesn’t count.
 
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