what does ZiPhone do vs iPlus?
im so confused
First of all, if all features are working, but not the phone part as there is no SIM, then that doesn't mean its unlocked. The phone is just activated already.
Activation is different from unlocking. If the phone is already unlocked when you insert your T-Mobile SIM, then your iPhone won't complain saying "Incorrect SIM, Connect to iTunes".
If this message appears the phone has never been unlocked. If it does, update all the way to 1.1.4 and use this guide for whatever needs you have.
Hope it helps
I finally got my iPhone, and it turned out to be a 2007 week 37, so the issue of whether or not to downgrade the BL didn't apply to me. ZiPhone was very easy to use, and your guide really helped make me comfortable with it. So thank you again.
I'm up and running on T-Mobile now... I just have to fix a few things here and there, like figure out what to change all the SMTP servers to, and install a couple of things, but other than that....
Here's another one I'd love your help with... do you have any experience with the error that BSD Subsystem cannot be installed? My phone successfully jailbreaked, unlocked, and activated. It syncs with iTunes, and it can access the T-Mobile GSM and EDGE networks. Installer was installed, and I was able to successfully install something to it, sort of (Send Song, it installed fine but it crashes immediately). But BSD Subsystem refuses to install; there's a download error. I tried re-installing Installer and rebooting, but this didn't fix it. Some threads suggest doing Jailbreak again.
Any recommendations?
Hi there,
I know you probably get a ton of stupid questions about this, but i have to ask. I'm moving to Trinidad and Tobago in the caribbean in a few weeks and needed to know if my iphone 1.1.4 will work there once unlocked. i've done a little research a found out that the local networks there do support gsm phones.
You probably covered this in the post i'm responding to but i may have missed it. Is there easy answer to this and a reasonably easy way to do it?
well first off thanks so much for this helpful post. i was unable to unlock my phone and now have it working with tmobile. The only issue i am facing now is that when i try to use safari i am getting an issue stating that phone could not activate and that i am not subscribed to edge. i did get the 19.99 data plan so i thought it should be working. have there been any known reports of safari not working once unlocked?
thanks!
jav6454, excellent information you have posted for newbie like me. I can't thank you enough for taking your time to help newbie like myself. Here's a quick question for you:
1) I bought my GF a refurbished Iphone. She is currently an ATT customer but I'm sure she does not want to start a new contract and especially for 2 years? All I want is to make sure she uses her current sim on the new iphone. What do you recommend?
2) The phone S/N 7R730XXXXXX: which mean year 2007 and week 30? How can I find out which firmware does it have?
3) The last reset was done on 10/01/2007.
Hi,
I live in Norway, and from your guide I understand I'll have to jailbreak my iPhone since my country is not supported.
I've just taken my iPhone out of the box, have downloaded ZiPhone, but am still a little confused... do I unlock my Iphone first and THEN jailbreak it afterwards? Or does jailbreaking also unlock it so there's no need?
Thanks for any help. Your guide is excellent, but I got confused once I realized I have to do multiple tasks in one (unlocking, jailbreaking AND localizing...)
Uninstall everything you installed with Installer. Then try BSD again, then all sources, then SummerBoard and finally go back to Springboard to restart it. Reboot the entire iPhone and then try to install applications. This was my same mistake when I first jailbroke my 1.1.1 back in September.
When you use the unlocking section of this guide you will notice that there are to Case Specific Steps. One are for bootloader downgrade and another for keeping the bootloader. Taking aside Bootloader issues, both methods Unlock, Jailbreak and Activate. [All these things are done at the same time by ZiPhone]
Once you do all those three things, then you continue with Localizing.
Thanks so much. Just have one more question... From what I understand, the "do all" button downgrades the bootloader, while if you do each task separately, you get to "keep" the current bootloader. Fine... but which method should I choose? Is there large differences between the two bootloaders? The OP doesn't list pro's and con's or everything, so a little help here would be much appreciated!
And sorry for asking my (possible) stupid questions. I just want to do it right, cause I know if problems occur later, I'll have difficulties dealing with them...
I know bootloader topics have been pretty much beat to death in this thread, but I still have a question that I haven't found an answer to. (I have read every post on this thread).
I had a 1.1.3 otb upgraded to 1.1.4 phone I got for Christmas so I am assuming it came with 4.6 bootloader.
When ZiPhone came out I decided to jailbreak only. I did it and I wasn't able to get yahoo mail or youtube to work. I restored and have stayed that way.
My questions are:
1. can I assume that my bootloader was changed to 3.9? Is the bootloader only changed if you unlock or does it happen with jailbreaking as well?
2. If my phone has some problem and I have to take it back to an Apple store are they going to know I jailbroke my phone, thus voiding my warranty?
Thanks for any answers.
iPlus is just another tool like ZiPhone.
ZiPhone was however the first tool in its kind. Others copied it. Also people blast it because it downgrades the bootloader if you are not careful. However, smart people know not to do things straight away with out searching how it works.
People who complain about ZiPhone are just plain lazy.
iPlus' only advantage is the 3.9FB, but that can be corrupted by iTunes and be replaced by BL 3.8 or 3.1.
See FAQs about these Bootloaders.
ZiPhone was not the first tool of this kind. It was the first publicly released tool of this kind. The code that ZiPhone uses was invented by other members of the iphone dev team and released without permission. The author of ZiPhone did not invent the exploits, he simply took them and commercialised the application. THAT is why it is criticized, and it has nothing to do with laziness. Get your facts straight next time.
To avoid 'corruption' of the bootloader, you simply need to make sure you don't install firmware 1.1.1 on your iPhone as the process is known to overwrite 3.9FB with 3.8 (not 3.1). This is a pretty simple thing to avoid - don't install 1.1.1. This does not happen with 1.1.2, 1.1.3, and 1.1.4 so it is a moot concern and a small price to pay for the ability to reverse the downgrade or update to a more advanced/pre-exploited bootloader if one chooses later. Using ZiPhone is a one-way street with respect to bootloader downgrades in comparison.
In addition to this, the comments regarding 3.8 need to be further clarified. Users who are running 3.8 (due to the fact that they have downgraded to 1.1.1 and inadvertently had the 3.9fb overwritten) have shown no ill effects of running this baseband. ie. all exploits known to work under 3.9 indeed work under 3.8. So right now there is also no cause for concern to be running this (you voided your warranty with apple the moment you didn't sign up the phone plan anyway, and if you did sign up for the phone plan you don't need to unlock the baseband and thus have no concern for what bl you are running).
So, I finally figure all I need to know. I have an iphone with version 1.11 and with bootloader 3.9. I also know that I just need to activate since I am a cingular customer. The question is that I bought this phone for my GF. She is acting up right now and I don't think that she will get it. I was wondering if I can use it on my SIM card and when I'm ready to get it to her just to do a restore and activate again with her SIM card. Will I see any trouble if I switch SIM. I also notice that when I received the phone I was able to play with all the button, now the only things it say that I need to activate the phone and scroll for emergency call? does mean that I need to restore it? also I have version 1.11, If I decide to upgrade to 1.14, can i downgrade the firmware? I know that the bootloader you cant? I was thinking on staying on 1.11 instead upgrading to 1.14 because I'm not sure if i can go back to 1.11. Thank for the all the help.
When I mean first tool of its kind is that ZiPhone was the first tool put out there that does all the things it does. The rest just followed along AFTER ZiPhone came out including using code from Zibri he freely posted. Now you get your facts straight.
Now as for Zibri's findings, I never posted saying otherwise, likewise I never posted saying he didn't do wrong. So don't go at me for that. I know my facts, its you that have a picky attitude towards me.
As for Bootloaders itself, I have clearly BOLDED every since I posted about them that the culprits were 1.1.1 and 1.0.0. I think you should read more and don't skim. As for FB, don't get me wrong, it is a good thing to have it, but risky if you are a newbie [As you may read this guide is for newbies, not experts]
As for Bootloader 3.8, there is need to clarify even more. That bootloader is wrong to have and once you have, there is no way up. Period. True it has 3.9 exploits, but that was also posted (unless you didn't read).
As per the warranty, I did make it clear that you need to sign up with AT&T or whatever legit carrier out there so that Apple can consider the warranty. Once again, it seems you skim, not read. I also posted that it depends on the Genius or Apple Care rep, there are some cases of people not signed up getting the warranty.
So, if you feel like blasting me go ahead, I don't mind. I just want you to know that blasting others for helping just so you can have a moment of fun is wrong. Basically I think you are the kind of person who doesn't like other to do things, but doesn't do them themselves, hence are bitter all their life.
My $0.02
Ok.
first off, since your bootloader is 3.9, then yes you can downgrade your firmware and your baseband. As for activating it just to use it with an old AT&T [Cingular] SIM, yes you can just activate it and go ahead and use it [be sure its not already activated before you go on and doing so]. As for firmware 1.1.4, yes you can go ahead and update or restore to that version, which ever you prefer, ZiPhone will activate, unlock and jailbreak or which ever task you need. If you decide to give it to her, and she wants the contract, just Restore and set up as new iPhone through iTunes. If she decides to keep her current plan then, just swap SIMs and that is it.
Any more questions? feel free to ask.