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The 2012 MLB Season Thread

Tigers are looking pretty unstoppable to me right now. Verlander's 2 games in the world series will be a lock for them and with Prince and Miggy hitting they could sweep. The Cards are playing above their ability and I jus't don't believe in San Fran
 
einmusiker said:
Tigers are looking pretty unstoppable to me right now. Verlander's 2 games in the world series will be a lock for them and with Prince and Miggy hitting they could sweep. The Cards are playing above their ability and I jus't don't believe in San Fran
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They look unstoppable because the Yankees are hitting so poorly. Their badness is epic. The fact is, the Yankees pitchers have their best post season ERA since 1961. Of course, the Tigers look like world beaters - but frankly they haven't knocked the cover off of the ball either. If they go up against the Giants and their staff, I'd pick the Giants, unless the Tigers offense start to show signs of perking up.

And it looks like Beltran is out of today's game with some type of knee injury. If it's serious (nobody knows anything at this point), that's a huge loss for the Cardinals.

Edit: and Matt Carpenter who replaced Beltran hits a 2 run jack. As John Sterling would say, "Suzyn, you just can't predict baseball".
 
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63Dot, fun game! Made some new giants friends during the rain delay!

Let's hope Lincecum starts tomorrow and has some of the same stuff he had during his Cy Young years!

On a side note.... Scuty is small..... Never thought I'd see another player as small as D Eckstein!
 
SporkLover said:
63Dot, fun game! Made some new giants friends during the rain delay!

Let's hope Lincecum starts tomorrow and has some of the same stuff he had during his Cy Young years!

On a side note.... Scuty is small..... Never thought I'd see another player as small as D Eckstein!
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That rain delay killed me so I got chores done around the house. Of course I wanted to win, but congrats. If the Giants don't make it then I want you guys to go out and clock the Yanks or Tigers. 🙂

Lincecum is so hot and cold and sometimes in 2012 we got flashes of who he was being one of the best pitchers for one's first three full years in the majors (Cy, Cy, WS). We got so hopeful calling him the franchise. I guess we got ahead of ourselves. His jersey is still the one I see everyone with. A pitcher like NYY/Boston's Roger Clemens is what I would call a franchise and one who is that great year after year is just so rare.
 
So the rumors have started that A-Rod will be traded to Miami. I doubt he plays another game this series no matter how long it might go. At this point A-Rod is the scapegoat for the whole team not hitting.
 
Really can't believe A-Rod still has 5 freaking years on his contract. $20+ million through age 42? Crazy.

I also don't understand the reasoning for the Marlins considering this. A-Rod is in serious decline offensively, and going to the NL would mean he's forced to play the field when he's in the lineup. I could maybe see a broke AL team taking a flyer on him for DH if they Yankees swallow his salary.

Unless I'm missing something here, it doesn't make a lot of sense for Miami.

edit: The Dodgers seem to be a good landing spot for contract mistakes. Maybe call them. 😀 😉
 
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Queen of Spades said:
Really can't believe A-Rod still has 5 freaking years on his contract. $20+ million through age 42? Crazy.

I also don't understand the reasoning for the Marlins considering this. A-Rod is in serious decline offensively, and going to the NL would mean he's forced to play the field when he's in the lineup. I could maybe see a broke AL team taking a flyer on him for DH if they Yankees swallow his salary.

Unless I'm missing something here, it doesn't make a lot of sense for Miami.
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A-Rod lives in Miami, so that is the only reason he would go there. Don't forget he still has to approve a trade.
 
MacNut said:
A-Rod lives in Miami, so that is the only reason he would go there. Don't forget he still has to approve a trade.
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I'm not questioning why he would go there, I'm questioning why on earth the Marlins would ever do that unless the Yankees pick up every cent of the $114M he's owed. He might perform a little better away from the boos at Yankee Stadium, but he'll still be a liability in the field before long. And 5 years remaining on his deal would have him playing for them in his 40s.
 
Queen of Spades said:
I'm not questioning why he would go there, I'm questioning why on earth the Marlins would ever do that unless the Yankees pick up every cent of the $114M he's owed. He might perform a little better away from the boos at Yankee Stadium, but he'll still be a liability in the field before long. And 5 years remaining on his deal would have him playing for them in his 40s.
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The Marlins have been spending money and want to get people into their new stadium. A-Rod would be the biggest piece of the puzzle. Is it smart to get him at his age, sure if the Yankees eat most of the contract.
 
MacNut said:
The Marlins have been spending money and want to get people into their new stadium. A-Rod would be the biggest piece of the puzzle.
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A-Rod? Seriously? How is a declining 3B who can't stay in the field the biggest piece of the puzzle for an NL team? His OPS has declined five straight years. He's disliked by Tampa Yankees fans, disliked by Rays fans, and I doubt he's endeared himself to the people of Miami in any grand way. If the Marlins cared only about winning above the headaches, they wouldn't have shipped Hanley off to the Dodgers.

I mean, I fully understand why the Yankees want to dump him. I just don't see the appeal of A-Rod in any role except subsidized DH for an AL team.
 
Queen of Spades said:
A-Rod? Seriously? How is a declining 3B who can't stay in the field the biggest piece of the puzzle for an NL team? His OPS has declined five straight years. He's disliked by Tampa Yankees fans, disliked by Rays fans, and I doubt he's endeared himself to the people of Miami in any grand way. If the Marlins cared only about winning above the headaches, they wouldn't have shipped Hanley off to the Dodgers.

I mean, I fully understand why the Yankees want to dump him. I just don't see the appeal of A-Rod in any role except subsidized DH for an AL team.
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So far these are just rumors, I have not heard anything about this happening. I don't know if A-Rod would even accept a trade. He might stick it to the Yankees and tell them to deal with it. A-Rod has all the power here and either way will get paid for the next 5 years.
 
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Rather than make a joke I will just say, "Yankees", did I ruin the punchline?
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quagmire said:
There is the CC we saw for most of the season.....
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No matter the ending, it's been a good season for the Yanks. We had the best record in the AL and we won our division. We had some tough injuries (MO 🙁 ) and they still fought until the end.

They picked an awful time to go into one of the worst team batting slumps you will ever see.

And look at it this way, if they do end up losing this game the Yanks just saved us all a few weeks of agita. 😀
 
quagmire said:
There is the CC we saw for most of the season.....
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You guys are a tough crowd. Wasn't he pitching with some elbow issues for most of the season? We'll take him, if you want to send him our way. 😱 Can't pin this loss on him (or the pitching staff, really).

Edit: The Tigers also have one of the better starting pitching staffs in the majors, iirc. Their bullpen is kind of "eh" but their starters are good.
 
Queen of Spades said:
You guys are a tough crowd. Wasn't he pitching with some elbow issues for most of the season? We'll take him, if you want to send him our way. 😱 Can't pin this loss on him (or the pitching staff, really).

Edit: The Tigers also have one of the better starting pitching staffs in the majors, iirc. Their bullpen is kind of "eh" but their starters are good.
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I don't blame any of this on the pitching, CC is still the ace of the staff. This is all on the hitters who are hitting .180 as a team in the playoffs.
 
I too think the Tigers will win now, but we can't talk about this as if it's over.

St. Louis was down in last game of NLDS and written off and they came back with four runs in the 9th, and same with A's for even getting into postseason, let alone winning division from best team most of this year in all of baseball (Texas Rangers). At one point, the A's garnered 8 runs in the 9th inning being 9 short of the Giants and gave me a heart attack. We pulled it off holding the A's from winning, but the comeback rally has been the flavor of this season and I think the A's came back 15 times this year in the 9th.

Let's watch this game until it ends, especially since we are talking a season with a whole bunch of 9th inning heroics and the most I remember in recent memory.
 
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63dot said:
I too think the Tigers will win now, but we can't talk about this as if it's over.

St. Louis was down in last game of NLDS and written off and they came back with four runs in the 9th, and same with A's for even getting into postseason, let alone winning division from best team most of this year in all of baseball (Texas Rangers). At one point, the A's garnered 8 runs in the 9th inning being 9 short of the Giants and gave me a heart attack. We pulled it off holding the A's from winning, but the comeback rally has been the flavor of this season and I think the A's came back 15 times this year in the 9th.

Let's watch this game until it ends, especially since we are talking a season with a whole bunch of 9th inning heroics and the most I remember in recent memory.
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Dude really? You still think the Yankees are in it?
 
MacNut said:
Dude really? You still think the Yankees are in it?
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I did until it was over. In my years of following baseball, no team scares me more than NYY. Now that they are out, I am somewhat relieved. Yes, Detroit is at even money +100 to win it all with St. Louis way back at +195. SF is quite a bit further off the map.

If somehow my Giants get into WS, I will take any team over the NYY to meet at the series, any year.

When my wife gets home, she will be disappointed and even though she doesn't follow sports that carefully, she expects the Yanks to win. No other team in any other sport has people just simply expecting that and I think 27 rings says it all.

I would love to see someone like second place (in rings) Cardinals get up there in the same range, but even if they take every third World Series for the next half a century, I won't live long enough to see them tie it up. If I take my favorite SF Giants, and tally up NY Giants WS wins during their dynasties, and add all the wins of my next favorite A's (who are no small threat), and then add all the rings of the Cardinals in there, it still doesn't total New Yorks WS wins! It feels good to have another World Series without the Yankees.
 
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MacNut said:
The last time the Yankees got swept was in 76 against the Reds. This team showed no fight, in 04 they at least put up one.
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This ALCS might have been more I don't know, listless, but I'm not sure there's a bigger choke in sports than going up 3-0 in a best of 7 and losing the series. Why are you guys even discussing this now? Take a day off. 😱

To be fair/kind, when you're in the playoffs as much as the Yankees, you're at risk of these types of things more than any other team. As Bill Belichick would say, it is what it is.

Although the Yankees should have taken advantage of the Red Sox shooting themselves in the ass all year. Next year it's on, hoebots. 😉
 
Moyank24 said:
No matter the ending, it's been a good season for the Yanks. We had the best record in the AL and we won our division. We had some tough injuries (MO 🙁 ) and they still fought until the end.
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X 2 This.

Some fans in baseball anger me so much with a Win it all or nothing attitudes towards their teams. I cruise another set of forums.... Reds forums, where someone posted a "Thank You Reds for the great season" thread. 2/3'rds of the fans there chided that guy for supporting a team that can't make it past the NLDS (with HF advantage nonetheless!). I mean sure they aren't winning back to back World Series and it's been awhile since they appeared in the NLCS.... but they had a GREAT winning season. They won their division. True their division had the Astros and the Cubs..... but it also has the Cards and the Brew Crew.

A few weeks ago I said with the record the Cards had this year... I'd be happy for a chance to play one game past the regular season. I wouldn't have been upset if the Braves were able to pull of the W.

Now that the Tigers have completed their sweep.... they should hope for NLCS to end soon..... they don't want to have 7 days off like they did in 2006! Although I'm sure they can conjure up some of the magic they had in 84..... swept the ALCS to go on to win the WS.
 
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