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The Pro Display XDR is also 31.5" visible -- Apple made a choice in ~2019 to establish the "6K" category at 6016x3384, mostly (I assume) due to it being 218 dpi ("Retina") at that industry-standard 32" (31.5" visible) panel size.
For unknown reasons, in ~2023 when LG Display made the "6K" panel for Dell, they opted for 223 ppi (recently, assorted marketing departments have been calling these "219 ppi" and "224 ppi" respectively -- an indication of just how competitive this HiDPI space has become in the past year)...
2016x3384 is 4.7x 720p HD, while 2144x3456 is 4.8x 720p HD -- the slight difference doesn't matter with regard to macOS UI scaling. If I remember correctly, the Dell had a few macOS issues early on but those are long since resolved.
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Apple specs says it’s 32 inches.
But it is 6016 by 3384 pixels at 218 pixels per inch, just like the others I mentioned.
I think the LG has the same resolution as the Dell 6K that has a built in webcam and huge bezels.
The Taobao listing has more detailed information. The only thing that doesn't line up with the other likely-AUO panels is the 10-bit claim, but that is common -- ASUS does the same thing (they say 10-bit in some contexts, but the official specs clarify that it's 8-bit + FRC).New cheaper Kuycon 6k -
Kuycon G32x 6k New Arrival 6106x3384 Pc Office 32 Inch Monitor Large-screen Matte Soft Light Display Monitor - Buy 6k 60hz Office Monitor retina Display For Photography design Vertical Screen Gaming monitor Without Stand kuycon G32x 32 Inch Displ
Kuycon G32x 6k New Arrival 6106x3384 Pc Office 32 Inch Monitor Large-screen Matte Soft Light Display Monitor - Buy 6k 60hz Office Monitor retina Display For Photography design Vertical Screen Gaming monitor Without Stand kuycon G32x 32 Inch Display Product on Alibaba.comwww.alibaba.com
- IPS instead of IPS Black
- 600nit v 500
- Slightly lower resolution: 6106x3384 v 6144 x 3456
I chatted with their support:
Panel in X is AUO (and matte) - (must be this: https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/excit...-being-developed-in-2024-au-optronics-edition)
Panel in P is LG
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=978624555200
It's also worth noting that Kuycon has upped their game in terms of how they present themselves on Alibaba. It's important, because they don't have their own website. I love that they invite you to visit their factory!New cheaper Kuycon 6k -
Kuycon G32x 6k New Arrival 6106x3384 Pc Office 32 Inch Monitor Large-screen Matte Soft Light Display Monitor - Buy 6k 60hz Office Monitor retina Display For Photography design Vertical Screen Gaming monitor Without Stand kuycon G32x 32 Inch Displ
Kuycon G32x 6k New Arrival 6106x3384 Pc Office 32 Inch Monitor Large-screen Matte Soft Light Display Monitor - Buy 6k 60hz Office Monitor retina Display For Photography design Vertical Screen Gaming monitor Without Stand kuycon G32x 32 Inch Display Product on Alibaba.com
We can hope that their model will inspire others to also get their act together.
Can you explain the difference in how macOS handles scaling for 6016x3384 versus 6144 x 3456?
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To be honest no idea. It’s just my personal preference to go with something with at least the same res as what Apple is using on their own monitors.
I do know there are slight blurryness issues when using a 4K monitor with UI scaling at 2560x1440 for example, I think macOS renders internally everything at 2x that and then downscales to 4K, making fonts not as crisp as they should without all those scaling steps.
Not your mistake, though -- it's from a typo in the text of the title of the Kuycon listing on Alibaba. You just passed it along.
@enc0re "Can you explain the difference in how macOS handles scaling for 6106x3384 versus 6144 x 3456?"
The way Apple has calculated their frame buffer hardware sizes seems to exactly limit it to the size of the largest monitor they use in their Tech Specs listings - the Pro XDR Display.
This maximum of a 6016x3384 pixel count seems to have ramifications that puts all sorts of limits on the sort of display arrangements users with non-Apple monitors want to configure - especially as Apple has increased the number of monitors their lower end Macs now support...
One of Apple's arbitrary limitations seems to be a HiDPI limit of 3072 (=6 144)...
Also more from @waydabber here:
The way Apple has calculated their frame buffer hardware sizes seems to exactly limit it to the size of the largest monitor they use in their Tech Specs listings - the Pro XDR Display.
This maximum of a 6016x3384 pixel count seems to have ramifications that puts all sorts of limits on the sort of display arrangements users with non-Apple monitors want to configure - especially as Apple has increased the number of monitors their lower end Macs now support...
One of Apple's arbitrary limitations seems to be a HiDPI limit of 3072 (=6 144)...
Also more from @waydabber here:
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See the screen shot in post #350 of the Kuycon G32P thread -- it shows that scaling for both 6K resolutions is supported, and I believe that means text should display at full clarity on each. Notice there are two "More Space" (at the other end of the spectrum in macOS System Settings > Displays, away from "Larger Text") settings: 3200x1800 and 3360x1890 -- on my Studio Display, there is only one (2880x1620), so I'll guess those are what Apple thinks work best for "More Space" on each of the two 6K desktops.
Also notice the two settings for maximum "Larger Text" clarity on the two 6K resolutions: 1536x864 and 1504x846. These are the mathematical equivalents of the 1280x720 setting on my 5K Studio Display. One quarter (both horizontal and vertical) of the full resolution.
Yes, the Kuycon has the same res as the Pro XDR. I was referring to the LG and Dell which have a higher resolution. But no idea how it works on those. I do know about the 4K @ 1440p scale because I have one, but I dot mind the slight fuzzy on text. Some people hate it though.
No, the Kuycon G32P has the same 6144x3456 panel as the Dell and LG -- that's why in that screenshot 3072x1728 is listed as the Default and 6144x3456 is shown at the top of the list. I think there is no problem with macOS scaling 2x to either 6K resolution. Maybe when the Dell first came out, but not now. The problem you're referring to arises when macOS adapts 27" 5K scaling to a 27" 4K display.
It's the new Kuycon G32X that has the same resolution as the XDR...
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It's interesting that you would blame the "slight blurryness issues" on downsampling and not the fact that one of the monitors has 6,451,200 fewer pixels than the other monitor.
Any early thoughts/comments on usage? How is the VESA mount situation, the specs list it as being VESA 100x100 but I don't recall any of the reviews online mentioning it. Thanks
I'm loving the monitor! I did post some quick thoughts here: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ou-a-32-inch-6k-display.2464583/post-34168203
Here's a brief summation though...
- 6k @ 32" is amazing! I wasn't prepared for how much I'd like it over my previous 27" 5k iMac
- The matte finish is nice! I had been using a cheaper 4k LG since getting my Mac Studio and its matte finish left areas of the screen feeling washed out when it diffused the light across it. The Asus doesn't do that and looks great in every lighting condition so far. I'd still prefer glossy, but not so much I'd have chanced the Kuycon.
- The controls on the monitor are very finicky. Not a fan of its menu system. Seems to always disappear for no reason. Though the Display Widget software Asus has for macOS is pretty good.
- The chin is not a problem. I don't even notice it any longer.
- HDMI & TB4 connections seem exactly the same to me. I get the HDR option on both @ full 6k 60hz. I'm just using HDMI for now to free up a TB5 port on my Mac Studio.
- VESA mounting works fine. The VESA mount on the monitor itself is inset more than I expected. It made attaching it to my arm more trouble than other monitors due to the inset, but ultimately was fine!
Oh you mean that. Yes that’s what happens on 4K using 1440p scaling.
I don’t know how macOS deals with those monitors with a bit higher res than the Pro XDR, it’s probably fine I just prefer to go with ones using the same res Apple has on their own 6K 32 inch display. Did not mean to say you should it’s just personal preference.
That’s great to hear. I’ve been trying to find this one around here and it’s been impossible, no stock on Amazon or related stores yet.
I ordered one (G32X)New cheaper Kuycon 6k -
Kuycon G32x 6k New Arrival 6106x3384 Pc Office 32 Inch Monitor Large-screen Matte Soft Light Display Monitor - Buy 6k 60hz Office Monitor retina Display For Photography design Vertical Screen Gaming monitor Without Stand kuycon G32x 32 Inch Displ
Kuycon G32x 6k New Arrival 6106x3384 Pc Office 32 Inch Monitor Large-screen Matte Soft Light Display Monitor - Buy 6k 60hz Office Monitor retina Display For Photography design Vertical Screen Gaming monitor Without Stand kuycon G32x 32 Inch Display Product on Alibaba.com
- IPS instead of IPS Black
- 600nit v 500
- Slightly lower resolution: 6106x3384 v 6144 x 3456
I chatted with their support:
Panel in X is AUO (and matte) - (must be this: https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/excit...-being-developed-in-2024-au-optronics-edition)
Panel in P is LG
They stated they already have in stock, so hopefully will come soon, and I can update
You mean 6016x3384 or ca. 4% less pixel than the Kuycon G32P (6144 x 3456)New cheaper Kuycon 6k -
Kuycon G32x 6k New Arrival 6106x3384 Pc Office 32 Inch Monitor Large-screen Matte Soft Light Display Monitor - Buy 6k 60hz Office Monitor retina Display For Photography design Vertical Screen Gaming monitor Without Stand kuycon G32x 32 Inch Displ
Kuycon G32x 6k New Arrival 6106x3384 Pc Office 32 Inch Monitor Large-screen Matte Soft Light Display Monitor - Buy 6k 60hz Office Monitor retina Display For Photography design Vertical Screen Gaming monitor Without Stand kuycon G32x 32 Inch Display Product on Alibaba.com
- IPS instead of IPS Black
- 600nit v 500
- Slightly lower resolution: 6106x3384 v 6144 x 3456
I chatted with their support:
Panel in X is AUO (and matte) - (must be this: https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/excit...-being-developed-in-2024-au-optronics-edition)
Panel in P is LG