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The MLB 2010 Season Thread

The city owned the stadium and the land it sat on, we are all sad that the place is gone and it would have been great to save gate 2. I believe the original design called for a park to be in the shape or the stadium. Now it will be to smaller fields. I do wonder why it was never named a historical landmark.

As for Wrigley and Fenway, those places won't last forever, Wrigley will probably fall first but how much can they do to keep it up. Teams want money and bigger stadiums bring that.

Gardner took out a camera. Hate to see that bill.:p
 
MacNut said:
The city owned the stadium and the land it sat on, we are all sad that the place is gone and it would have been great to save gate 2. I believe the original design called for a park to be in the shape or the stadium. Now it will be to smaller fields. I do wonder why it was never named a historical landmark.

As for Wrigley and Fenway, those places won't last forever, Wrigley will probably fall first but how much can they do to keep it up. Teams want money and bigger stadiums bring that.
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More then Gate 2 should have been saved though. You can't give me one reason why the whole thing had to come down because there isn't one. The place was going to become a park so there were options in ways to save the old place and integrate it into the park. It was pure politics why it wasn't declared a landmark. The Landmarks commission declared that the renovations changed the stadium too much( which is BS. Most of what you saw in 1976-2008 was original 1923-1937 Yankee Stadium. Also, ironic that the Landmark Commission back in 1970's recommended the renovations citing it was an historical building). Renovated Yankee Stadium would have been eligible to become a historical landmark in 2006( 30 years is the minimum a building has to stand to be named historical). You know what they did? They submitted Yankee Stadium for landmark designation in 2005 a year before the renovated stadium would become eligible. So of course as I stated above, the Landmark Commission denied it citing that BS reason. No one was interested in saving the old place. Not the Yankees, not the city, and not the fans( all we got from the fans was a, " We'll miss it, but LET'S GO WIN #27!!!!!!!").

Wrigley is due to go under renovations in 2014. Fenway is going to be tricky. At least if the Wrigley renovations call for the stadium to be closed like Yankee Stadium, the Cubs can go and play in New Comiskey(details are scarce still about the renovations). Boston doesn't have that luxury unless they want to play in NYS for a few years. :p

Talking of renovations, not sure if I posted it before, but here is the best youtube video anyone will ever see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPwsl8YtxqQ
 
They can remodel Wrigley just as they did Yankee Stadium but it won't last forever. In another 50 years will they want to go it again. The same with Fenway. It has seen upgrades but the core is still 86 years old. Buildings don't stand forever without massive work that eventually cost more than to just replace. I doubt we see Fenway in 75 years.
 
MacNut said:
They can remodel Wrigley just as they did Yankee Stadium but it won't last forever. In another 50 years will they want to go it again. The same with Fenway. It has seen upgrades but the core is still 86 years old. Buildings don't stand forever without massive work that eventually cost more than to just replace. I doubt we see Fenway in 75 years.
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Well I don't think renovating Yankee Stadium would ever cost more then the $1.5 billion it took to build NYS. So that argument is lost when you talk about OYS. But as for Wrigley and Fenway, sad that money gets in the way of preserving historical buildings.

The core of Fenway is 98 years old BTW. ;)
 
I see Joe Torre is a free agent, I wonder if he wants to manage next year.;)
 
MacNut said:
I see Joe Torre is a free agent, I wonder if he wants to manage next year.;)
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You are not dead, yet.

If any team can come up from being down 3-1, it's the Yankees. It's not over until it's over.

If the Giants win, I would much rather see them meet Texas and at the moment Texas seems to be the likely opponent to face the NL winner.

15 or 19 NL teams have won the series for the NL when leading the NLCS by 2-1, so the most likely scenario is Giants vs. Texas.

But the real monkey wrench in this is that one of the four teams left are the Yankees and they have time and again came in to defy the odds. I really would hate to see the Yankees battle the Giants and where I had little hope of the Giants beating Philly when the NLCS started, I have almost no hope that the Giants could beat the Yankees in the big dance.

In '89 the Giants got swept by the As in the WS, and most recently in Giants' history, the Giants lost to the Angels. While they were very good teams, the As and the Angels, they were no Yankee dynasty like the one that is playing right now.

What will happen if NY gets amped up and beats Texas is that they will be warmed up and playing to their dynasty team potential and the Giants are no match for a Yankees team at their potential. The Giants have a couple of good closers, they have Posey, and they have Lincecum, and those are the only players of the caliber of the overall talent of the Yankees right now. If we also had Will Clark and Barry Bonds at their height on our roster, then there would be a fair match but that's not the case.

The Giants have a lot of Hall of Famers and potential Hall of Famers (and more than most teams), but there are just not enough of those top players on the same team during the same era.

We had our best chance in the last 25 years to win the World Series when we had Bonds hitting like a madman and producing big for the team in the postseason. I don't think a Giants team like that will come along for a long, long time.

As for the Yankees, they have a good three to five year run of a top of the line team every single decade, or at least for nearly 9 decades starting with 1921 Pennant up to their current status as a 2010 ALCS competitor.
 
I agree were not dead yet either Id panic more if CC wasn't pitching tomorrow the two promising things that i saw tonight the hits are finally coming and despite for some few calls the Yankees looked a heck of alot better than they did the last two games.
 
MacNut said:
The city owned the stadium and the land it sat on, we are all sad that the place is gone and it would have been great to save gate 2. I believe the original design called for a park to be in the shape or the stadium. Now it will be to smaller fields. I do wonder why it was never named a historical landmark.

As for Wrigley and Fenway, those places won't last forever, Wrigley will probably fall first but how much can they do to keep it up. Teams want money and bigger stadiums bring that.

Gardner took out a camera. Hate to see that bill.:p
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thankfully the game wasnt in 3D :)
 
macfan881 said:
I agree were not dead yet either Id panic more if CC wasn't pitching tomorrow the two promising things that i saw tonight the hits are finally coming and despite for some few calls the Yankees looked a heck of alot better than they did the last two games.
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With Teixeira out for the remainder of the season our chances got a lot worse.
 
Moyank24 said:
No joke.
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Gotta agree with you guys on that. Sucks that Tex is out. Hope he has a good recovery.

We got our asses handed to us earlier. The Rangers KILLED us. AJ pitched a good game up until the HR to Bengie Molina, so that's a good sign and also, Jeter getting it done was a good sign. I really thought we could come back until we went to the bullpen. After that, I was just watching to see how many runs the Rangers were gonna score. It got a little bit crazy there at the end.

I'm still hoping for a Yanks vs. Giants World Series. It's CC vs. CJ today in the ALCS, so we'll see what happens.
 
Silencio said:
Too much talking about stadiums, not enough talking about Matt Cain's gem today in game 3 of the NLCS, nor about yet another big hit from Cody Ross.
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Cain pitched a great game:) Bottom line, my boyz got to start hitting:eek: They have been there before:cool: I think it will a different story tonight:D
Peace and Go Phils...:cool:
 
MacNut said:
Im getting sick of Girardi over managing.
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Based on Game 4, that may not have been a deciding factor. The Rangers just dominated them in every way last night. :eek:


63dot said:
In '89 the Giants got swept by the As in the WS, and most recently in Giants' history, the Giants lost to the Angels. While they were very good teams, the As and the Angels, they were no Yankee dynasty like the one that is playing right now.
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Yankee dynasty? Last year was their first World Series title in nine years. The Yankees have advantages over many teams, but let's not anoint them just yet.
 
quagmire said:
The '96-'01 dynasty and the 1949-1958 dynasty( the one that won five WS in a row) would like to have a word with you. ;)
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The Yankees needed '97 to make it undisputed. But look at the modern pitchers these guys had to face then. It's not a shabby crew and a few of them are here now, although maybe over the hill.

An over the hill legend who is a Yankee is still sometimes better than most other teams' top young player right now. The Yankees look like they will take this game going on right now. Texas may have to wait.
 
Texas didn't do it. This is when it gets scary. Nobody wants a Yankee team with momentum chasing after you. The Yankees won in a convincing fashion nailing their opponents by five runs. I can see this thing going to 7 games.

Now let's see if Philly can tie things up or fall dangerously behind. A great series for baseball fans would be seeing two series go all the way to 7. We need a little spice in our life, and by the way, what is football? Saints look like they got lucky last year, the Steelers are not the team they were and will have a rusty Big Ben at best, and Peyton Manning is looking like he needs to join Brett Favre in the retirement home (even though it's early and player of the decade Manning still looks strong, but wait until week 12 when the two most prolific quarterbacks of their generation in records show the wear and tear that comes from achieving all those yards), and the team I thought would do the best, the Cowboys!?!? What the heck is with that? Romo may be the highest ever rated QB of America's Team and has the only realistic shot at a career rating higher than Steve Young, but the whole mess that is Dallas is painful to watch, but not all is dour in the state of Texas.

Anyway, I want to see the Giants win tonight and they are at home where Philly has not done well during the regular season.
 
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