The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming

[Boyd01]

Maybe they'll give us a MacBook Air-style "update" and introduce a slightly-faster 1.6 GHz Haswell processor in the low-end Mac mini and call it an update.

That has crossed my mind and, as you say, is exactly what they did with the MacBook Air. They went from a 1.6ghz i5 chip to a 1.8ghz chip of the same generation and didn't change anything else at all. I sort of doubt that is the kind of update people here are looking for.

Also remember, the MacBook Air already had a Broadwell chip, HD6000 video, 8gb RAM and SSD in the base model before its "update".

 

[Bollockser]

The 2017 Mac mini is already on the Apple website

Why'd you have to tease us like this now I cant get the idea out of my head

 

[CWallace]

Maybe they'll give us a MacBook Air-style "update" and introduce a slightly-faster 1.6 GHz Haswell processor in the low-end Mac mini and call it an update.

If that is all there is, they would have done that at WWDC as part of the Mac Update Roundup.

 

[opeter]

Why'd you have to tease us like this now I cant get the idea out of my head

Hahaha, that was the whole plan. Harr-harr ... world domination!

Well I was happy for like 1.5 seconds at least lol

That was the whole point
Instant happiness.
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no problem since it just rumor site.... i'm using basic 2017 anway. couldn't afford to max em all..

One can always dream... that is (at least for now) not forbidden. Yet.

 

[alien3dx]

Hahaha, that was the whole plan. Harr-harr ... world domination!


That was the whole point
Instant happiness.
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One can always dream... that is (at least for now) not forbidden. Yet.

i want to dream osx behave like normal linux operating system.. A first i buy mac mini because thinking 4 GB is enough ...
but when i moved to apple arena ...

1. 4GB mac mini totally not for human.

2. No GUI Service/daemon. I want to kill all those unknown cached files ? Or much better don't store anything important in the osx it will cache maybe ? external

3. Annoyance APPLE I CLOUD. Are you want to stop this icloud service.. We will delete your file ? What What .. ? You may download at icloud.com because we store backup your file ? Yes can see but can only dowload 1 file in a time not the folder ? What ?

4.Solder RAM ? What ... are this focus on user experience or aesthetic value ?

Xcode
1 . One time can download update in apple store now need to download again and again each update ? It's freakin 5 GB .'
2. Inhuman parseable setting file ? Get A life man json or xml or csv..
3. Inhuman warning

when moved to apple phone
1. inconsistency user experience.. jumping here and jumping there.. e.g cancel button. small popup to keyin password ? what


What my conclusion was , if mac mini want to stay it will be stock like apple macbook air ... hasswell forever until intel gen 8 .. Must must give gen8 imac pro first then macbook pro then macbook then lastly mac mini.
** but still it must before APPLE TRASH MUSIC CAN.. SIRIIIIIII

Let's we celebrate 12 september with inhuman Marvel

 

[EnesM]

I don't expect the Apple TV event to be that long unless they throw Jony Ive at it. It's mostly 4K support and maybe some updated Siri skills most likely.

You'd be surprised. Now adays they spend most of their keynote talking about Apple Music, Apple Watch faces and emojis

 

[Boyd01]

One can always dream...

Nightmares are also dreams.

 

[alien3dx]

Nightmares are also dreams.

osx ,iphone is nightmare for me.. Compare to other operating system windows and linux.. i wish steve job to monitor from heaven quality product.

 

[Boyd01]

Guess it depends on what you expect. I started with an Apple ][ in 1978, got a Mac in 1985. Started using BSD and System V unix in 1985 as well. Setup a Redhat Linux mail/web server for my company in the late 1990's. From your other post it sounds like you were expecting a Mini to be like a generic unix or Linux system, so I don't doubt that you were disappointed.

But I'm still very happy with all my Macs, Apple TV's and iPhone. They do what I want and I'm very fond of software like Final Cut Pro X. Not terribly thrilled with the push to dumb down MacOS to the iOS lowest common denominator, but it is what it is. Recently upgraded to Sierra and was pleasantly surprised, I like it much better than Mountain Lion, which I had been using for years.

 

[alien3dx]

Guess it depends on what you expect. I started with an Apple ][ in 1978, got a Mac in 1985. Started using BSD and System V unix in 1985 as well. Setup a Redhat Linux mail/web server for my company in the late 1990's. From your other post it sounds like you were expecting a Mini to be like a generic unix or Linux system, so I don't doubt that you were disappointed.

But I'm still very happy with all my Macs, Apple TV's and iPhone. They do what I want and I'm very fond of software like Final Cut Pro X. Not terribly thrilled with the push to dumb down MacOS to the iOS lowest common denominator, but it is what it is. Recently upgraded to Sierra and was pleasantly surprised, I like it much better than Mountain Lion, which I had been using for years.

Yes, expecting mac mini like general unix and no choice to me i changed code using vi,nano rather then using gui like latest linux flavour like ubuntu,red hat.

Good for you , it behave like you want. But not me, the experience quite seem bad.

Since all with the leak, i would like to assume they will no mac mini forever since the new APPLE just focus to milk imac,macbook pro which start cost 1k dollar and above.. MAC MINI to cheap price, so must mark up to 1k DOLLAR or sell all stock till finish..

 

[SSD-GUY]

I am reluctantly upgrading my Hackintosh, as I had hoped that a Mac Mini with TB3 connectivity (with external GPU etc) was around the corner, but it just doesn't seem like it.

Here's to hoping!

 

[alien3dx]

I am reluctantly upgrading my Hackintosh, as I had hoped that a Mac Mini with TB3 connectivity (with external GPU etc) was around the corner, but it just doesn't seem like it.

Here's to hoping!

speed is the same average between pen drive usb 3.1 (thunderbolt) gen 1 and external hardisk 3.0 and internal 1 tera hard disk .. Unsure how it will improve usb 3.1 gen 2 + ssd ... For permance wise me using virtual ram for xcode

External GPU still need 300 dollar and GPU itself.. so still overprice.. will try if got stock in my country egpu and official high sierra.

 

[Santabean2000]

An influx of minis to the referb store here this week; a glimmer of hope that the mini will see a bump this week.

I know, I know, probably means nothing, but the timing is curious.

I live in perpetual hope.

 

[Micky Do]

But according to you 1000+ days without an update is A-OK, RIGHT?

Not right…… I have never suggested that. However I do suggest that being able to run the currently available OS, and anticipated ones, as well as relevant apps is more important than having bragging rights to the latest hardware. But still, the new Mac Mini is a lost certainly coming, and it will almost certainly disappoint some.

The currently available Mac Mini runs the currently available MacOS and apps, and will likely be supported by MacOS updates for at least half a decade.

Who ever asked for "Pro" specs in a mini? How about not making it worse than the prior version?

A good few here seem to hanker a Pro machine at a Mini price. The current Mac Mini is available at various specifications, most of which offer performance at least equal to the previous generation….. including the 1.4 Ghz model, which is priced at less than the previous base model.

The exception is the top end 4 core model, which was dropped, to the disappointment of some.

How about updating it more than once in a 1/2 decade?

Given that it runs current apps and OS, and probably those in the offing, is there any real urgency to update other than to satisfy a few geeks and dilettantes who pride themselves on having the latest gear. How often do most folk replace their hardware? No more than half a decade or so for me.

So in Apple's infinite wisdom of not losing the sale of a single, more expensive machine to a mini - they have lost two mini sales. Oh well, as I say in my SIG, Tim simply doesn't want me as a customer anymore.

I fail to follow the logic of this argument.

Simply put, a Mac Mini is all the computer some folk desire / need, thus it is available for sale. It is not on the market just to look cute and generate desire for more expensive hardware…..

And another one learns what I have been saying for years... Spinners Suck. They have no place inside any computer sold today. Apple of all companies knows this, they just cannot help gaining an extra damn $4.53 in profit!

You are entitled to your opinion on HDD, and no one is compelling you to use one. SSD is available as an option on all but the base model of the current Mac Mini, and even on that SSD can be installed if the user is inclined to do so.

SSD certainly suits those who have the expectation / need / desire and the budget. Then there are those with different expectations and needs, for whom the HDD provides a more cost effective storage by a large margin. Then there is fusion Drive for those who want some of the benefits of both SSD and HDD. All options have a place in computers sold today; your money, your choice.

 

[pixelatedscraps]

Is there any real urgency to update other than to satisfy a few geeks and dilettantes who pride themselves on having the latest gear.All options have a place in computers sold today; your money, your choice.

Your patience with these kids astounds me. Bravo.

 

[The_Interloper]

Your patience with these kids astounds me. Bravo.

I'm not a 'kid'. I'm a mid-40s adult with over 20 years of using Macs. The least I expect when I go out to buy an allegedly brand-new computer at full retail price is a current (or previous-gen at worst) processor. The CPUs in the Mac mini are now FOUR generations old.

I can just live with the 5400-rpm hard drive (use an external USB 3.0 SSD if need be). I can even live with soldered RAM as long as you know what to expect. But I refuse to pay premium prices for a CPU that would not be found in any other new machine from any other manufacturer.

People would seemingly rather call childish names - kids, dilettantes, geeks etc - than accept that Apple is selling ancient (pretty much EOL) hardware at exorbitant prices. It's fine to have 'humble needs' but why should anyone tolerate a 4-year-old processor in an allegedly new computer? Apple's headless Mac line-up in 2017 goes beyond an afterthought; it is an absolute disgrace - a complete rip-off, plain and simple.

 

[masterbaron]

I really think Steve Jobs wanted to change the world in meaningful ways and therefore designed an ecosystem and products to do just that. I think the new governance at Apple wants to change Apple profits in meaningful ways and thus the old paradigm has been abandoned in favor of profits which has very little to do about our expectations or needs.

It's very easy to ignore things like watch bands, touch-bar, Siri, thinness and dongles when the basic needs aren't being met and no roadmap indicates stops in the direction you're going. If you're at a place where everything is working - the next challenge is shrewdness and waiting it out until a compelling opportunity presents itself - just forget the buzz for a while and enjoy the great outdoors - go out, look up!

 

[Santabean2000]

Not right…… I have never suggested that. However I do suggest that being able to run the currently available OS, and anticipated ones, as well as relevant apps is more important than having bragging rights to the latest hardware. But still, the new Mac Mini is a lost certainly coming, and it will almost certainly disappoint some.

The currently available Mac Mini runs the currently available MacOS and apps, and will likely be supported by MacOS updates for at least half a decade.


A good few here seem to hanker a Pro machine at a Mini price. The current Mac Mini is available at various specifications, most of which offer performance at least equal to the previous generation….. including the 1.4 Ghz model, which is priced at less than the previous base model.

The exception is the top end 4 core model, which was dropped, to the disappointment of some.


Given that it runs current apps and OS, and probably those in the offing, is there any real urgency to update other than to satisfy a few geeks and dilettantes who pride themselves on having the latest gear. How often do most folk replace their hardware? No more than half a decade or so for me.



I fail to follow the logic of this argument.

Simply put, a Mac Mini is all the computer some folk desire / need, thus it is available for sale. It is not on the market just to look cute and generate desire for more expensive hardware…..


You are entitled to your opinion on HDD, and no one is compelling you to use one. SSD is available as an option on all but the base model of the current Mac Mini, and even on that SSD can be installed if the user is inclined to do so.

SSD certainly suits those who have the expectation / need / desire and the budget. Then there are those with different expectations and needs, for whom the HDD provides a more cost effective storage by a large margin. Then there is fusion Drive for those who want some of the benefits of both SSD and HDD. All options have a place in computers sold today; your money, your choice.

All words and nothing to say. A broken down record player if ever there was one.

Your insistence on being an Apple apologist is just embarrassing. And yet you seem to have no idea.

Simply put, stand-alone spinners in 2017 are an abomination, a thing to be despised and ridiculed. And so too to any fool who stands up to defend them.

 

[masterbaron]

Humanity is really interesting ... we're all Apple users, we all want something and even those on here who claim to have left Apple want something from Apple or this community. The fray that goes on here is simply the displeasure that Apple has shed upon us - one persons needs (wants) challenged by another - one persons term for believers, adopters, dissenters vs another persons term or perception.

In the end - we're just waiting for something more meaningful to happen and in the meantime we can just bash each other over perspectives and terminology - but hey, at the end of the day did the work that's needed get done and did you manage to have any fun!?

 

[Cape Dave]

All words and nothing to say. A broken down record player if ever there was one.

Your insistence on being an Apple apologist is just embarrassing. And yet you seem to have no idea.

Simply put, stand-alone spinners in 2017 are an abomination, a thing to be despised and ridiculed. And so too to any fool who stands up to defend them.

Finally, someone who gets it. Thank you. Spinners died a few years ago. Anyone who says they are OK with a 5400 spinner as the main HDD is insane. The hell with choice. I CHOOSE to have a modern computing experience because it is 2017. Why would anyone choose anything less? To save $10? Really?

 

[alien3dx]

Finally, someone who gets it. Thank you. Spinners died a few years ago. Anyone who says they are OK with a 5400 spinner as the main HDD is insane. The hell with choice. I CHOOSE to have a modern computing experience because it is 2017. Why would anyone choose anything less? To save $10? Really?

the point of apple just cheap cost.. fusion yes good thing but 5400 rpm just for longer term storage but still both mechanical or ssd will have their own tear and wear... i used ssd both in my old laptop. Improvement wise speed load other not much.

 

[Boyd01]

why should anyone tolerate a 4-year-old processor in an allegedly new computer?

Maybe because he is currently using an 8 year old computer and talking on a $25 cellphone?

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-mini-2017.2060446/#post-24872897

Seriously, I think it's great that those things meet his needs. But I have a problem with his attitude about anyone who expects better from Apple. And if the "geeks and dilettantes" label doesn't fit, then we're just cheapskates expecting a Mac Pro for the price of a Mini.

 

[alien3dx]

Maybe because he is currently using an 8 year old computer and talking on a $25 cellphone?

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-mini-2017.2060446/#post-24872897

Seriously, I think it's great that those things meet his needs. But I have a problem with his attitude about anyone who expects better from Apple. And if the "geeks and dilettantes" label doesn't fit, then we're just cheapskates expecting a Mac Pro for the price of a Mini.

i'm dying......... read this link.....

 

[The_Interloper]

And if the "geeks and dilettantes" label doesn't fit, then we're just cheapskates expecting a Mac Pro for the price of a Mini.

This is the thing that irritates me more than anything about these jibes. I (like many others) am NOT a kid/geek/dilettante/cheapskate (insert appropriate insult). I don't want a Mac Pro for Mini money; I simply expect a modern, capable computer that lets macOS shine. For example:

http://a.co/aERMcMq

Kaby Lake i5, 16Gb RAM, space for 2.5" or M.2 SSD. Not Mac Pro (or HP Z-Series equivalent) spec, but certainly Mini money.

Why can't Apple just do this? And why should we expect less in 2017?

 

[CWallace]

I really think Steve Jobs wanted to change the world in meaningful ways and therefore designed an ecosystem and products to do just that. I think the new governance at Apple wants to change Apple profits in meaningful ways and thus the old paradigm has been abandoned in favor of profits which has very little to do about our expectations or needs.

It's hard to generate profits without revenue and it's hard to generate revenue if you ignore the expectations or needs of your entire customer base.

Apple is generating significant profits on massive revenues which means they're meeting the expectations and needs of a significant majority of their customer base. The Mac Mini has always been in the significant minority of the Mac desktop customer base, much less the Mac customer base or the Apple customer base. Apple is focusing on where the money is, and it's never, ever, been in the Mac Mini. That they still make the thing surprises the heck out of me and is actually a sign of Apple caring about those customers at least a little by continuing to offer them a model that, crippled as it may be, they still find a use for.