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Why am I finding myself being drawn in by the Pro!!! Must be mad. Hmm Christmas money, Birthday money, sell my OG PS5 disk fat. Could be quite a bit towards the Pro.

I've been kinda drooling at the ray tracing improvements.
 
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Why am I finding myself being drawn in by the Pro!!! Must be mad. Hmm Christmas money, Birthday money, sell my OG PS5 disk fat. Could be quite a bit towards the Pro.

I've been kinda drooling at the ray tracing improvements.
If you are ever going to do then act now whilst the resale or trade in value of the OG ps5 is decent.
 
If you are ever going to do then act now whilst the resale or trade in value of the OG ps5 is decent.

Nah, I’d wait till I have money from Christmas and my Bday. It’s probably because it’s shiny shiny new. It needs more games yet to take advantage of it plus I don’t have a VRR TV, and I don’t plan on buying one either. I want to see what the Switch 2 is like.
I’ve not been impressed at with this gen, powerful hardware that devs can’t be bothered to optimise for, so you have games at 30fps or wildly varying 40 to 60FPS, and now we have a console over half as powerful as the PS5 costing £700 and currently only a few games use its extra brute force power to run properly. I’ve been having a lot more fun with my Steam Deck.
Sony has at least done the right thing and implemented AI up scaling, but I wanna see what Nvidia's DLSS does for the next Switch.

Need to limit myself to how many gadgets I have lol, so I’m going to wait till everything is out first. Sure Switch 2 won’t be anywhere near as powerful as PS5 Pro, but it might have games better optimised.
 
Nah, I’d wait till I have money from Christmas and my Bday. It’s probably because it’s shiny shiny new. It needs more games yet to take advantage of it plus I don’t have a VRR TV, and I don’t plan on buying one either. I want to see what the Switch 2 is like.
I’ve not been impressed at with this gen, powerful hardware that devs can’t be bothered to optimise for, so you have games at 30fps or wildly varying 40 to 60FPS, and now we have a console over half as powerful as the PS5 costing £700 and currently only a few games use its extra brute force power to run properly. I’ve been having a lot more fun with my Steam Deck.
Sony has at least done the right thing and implemented AI up scaling, but I wanna see what Nvidia's DLSS does for the next Switch.

Need to limit myself to how many gadgets I have lol, so I’m going to wait till everything is out first. Sure Switch 2 won’t be anywhere near as powerful as PS5 Pro, but it might have games better optimised.
Only buy the Pro if you have a specific list of games for which you will benefit. For titles like Fortnite, Minecraft, Valorant, COD, FIFA or Madden the base consoles is just fine. This is why the XSS sells. For some titles it has all the hardware you need.

It’s the same with PC. For certain titles a 4060 TI offers a gorgeous visuals at a high frame rate. A 4080 would only be beneficial if you play certain games for which a substantially more powerful GPU offer a step change improvement.
 
Only buy the Pro if you have a specific list of games for which you will benefit. For titles like Fortnite, Minecraft, Valorant, COD, FIFA or Madden the base consoles is just fine. This is why the XSS sells. For some titles it has all the hardware you need.

It’s the same with PC. For certain titles a 4060 TI offers a gorgeous visuals at a high frame rate. A 4080 would only be beneficial if you play certain games for which a substantially more powerful GPU offer a step change improvement.

Oh if I wanted to I would build a extremely powerful PC with flagship Intel or AMD processor and a 4090 and play this:


.... but it took me long enough to save for my new M3 Max MacBook Pro lol, (I'm excited to see what it can do with Cyberpunk when it's out natively next year).

Being sensible is waiting for PS6 as it should be a lot more powerful with AI up scaling being more mature by then. And seeing what the Switch 2 is all about.

I'll wait to see how the PS5 Pro pans out. I have a 55" Sony 4K OLED TV and don't plan on updating it, it doesn't have VRR but will do 60fps at 4K, so I'll be watching how the Pro boosts games to that.
 
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I'll wait to see how the PS5 Pro pans out.
If it’s the only console that will play GTA6 at 60fps at launch, I will sell my series x and buy it.

Now that I am used to 70-120fps on my PC, I can’t stomach 30fps especially for a title that I have waited yeeears for. I know the game will be released on PC. However that could be in 2027, I can’t wait that long.
 
If it’s the only console that will play GTA6 at 60fps at launch, I will sell my series x and buy it.

Now that I am used to 70-120fps on my PC, I can’t stomach 30fps especially for a title that I have waited yeeears for. I know the game will be released on PC. However that could be in 2027, I can’t wait that long.

Haha luckily that's the one game I couldn't care less about. I had my fun with GTA years ago, just doesn't interest me.
I don't mind 30fps in my Steam Deck but that's a small screen however I tune most games to be above that if I can. Playing COD BLOP6 on my PS5 though is fast at I assume 60fps, don't think I'd want to be slower then that.

Think I'll take a serious look at the PS5 Pro still though. I do like the systems speed, I turn it on, needs a patch no problem that's done in 5 mins max, and gaming.
 
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Sorry I meant $300-400million.

When the PS6 launch Sony could drop the price of the PS5 Pro. The price premium over PS5 is front loading the cost of PSSR hardware and software R&D.

Nintendo has a two price tier approach with Switch and Switch lite.

We all laughed at the Series S but MS has been vindicated. It's generating sales and shows that some customers are price conscious. Going forward more games will use UE5. You don't need a $800-900 pc or console to play fifa, NBA, cod, minecraft or fortnite. They run well on the series s which reminds me of the cute ps1 slim.
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how have they been vindicated? The Series X and Series S COMBINED have sold half the units of the PS5, and the Series S outsells the Series X. They're moving a decent amount of cheap hardware, but Sony sells twice as many twice as expensive consoles. I don't see a vindication, I see Microsoft trying anything to get GamePass subs.
 
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Hmm I see the PS5 Pro CPU is still the same as the launch model, and that was based on an older laptop chip, it’s now 5 years old! It seems to still be a bottle neck for some games. Seems they spent all the enhancements on the GPU.
 
Do games that are not "Pro enhanced" benefit from the Pro hardware upgrade at all? Could Minecraft have better draw distance / less pop-in on the Pro?
 
Do games that are not "Pro enhanced" benefit from the Pro hardware upgrade at all? Could Minecraft have better draw distance / less pop-in on the Pro?

The PS5 Pro is a compromise.


-With the PS5 Pro you benefit from the extra power sometimes. The extent of it will vary and is controlled by the developer.

-With a powerful PC you always benefit from the extra power. The extend of it which is controllable by you.
 
It seems to be mostly positive on the PS Pro, Digital Foundry said the new remastered Horizon Zero Dawn was the best looking console game they had ever seen thus far, that was running in the Pro.

It is using the trick that is the best solution to the problem, running games at 1200 to 1800p and up scaling with clever AI tech, like DLSS.

Anyone in here got one? If so what do you think of it?
 
It seems to be mostly positive on the PS Pro, Digital Foundry said the new remastered Horizon Zero Dawn was the best looking console game they had ever seen thus far, that was running in the Pro.

It is using the trick that is the best solution to the problem, running games at 1200 to 1800p and up scaling with clever AI tech, like DLSS.

Anyone in here got one? If so what do you think of it?

I have one, yeah. Games look mighty impressive.

It's not using DLSS though, it's using Sony's proprietary PSSR, which appears to be much better than DLSS and will keep improving.
 
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i got my pre ordered ps5 pro on launch day as well. Tested it next to my Fat ps5 original. The difference is night and day.

Pro graphics look way better and smoother.

Jedi survivor is night and day difference.

Even ps4 God of war looks phenomenal on the pro.

Gonna sell my ps5 fat soon once I've ported everything over. Only thing i will miss is the disc drive

Have to use it on a big 65 in Oled tv with VRR and 120hz refresh rate. Looks Splendid


But I will say this though, gaming on my PC with 4070 Super ti is still better than the PS5 Pro (obviously)

I compared Black Myth Wukong (all ultra settings with DLAA) on steam vs the ps5 pro, and PC still looks way better

Granted, the game has not been patched for PS5 Pro performance yet. So let's see if it improves anything.
 
i got my pre ordered ps5 pro on launch day as well. Tested it next to my Fat ps5 original. The difference is night and day.

Pro graphics look way better and smoother.

Jedi survivor is night and day difference.

Even ps4 God of war looks phenomenal on the pro.

Gonna sell my ps5 fat soon once I've ported everything over. Only thing i will miss is the disc drive

Have to use it on a big 65 in Oled tv with VRR and 120hz refresh rate. Looks Splendid


But I will say this though, gaming on my PC with 4070 Super ti is still better than the PS5 Pro (obviously)

I compared Black Myth Wukong (all ultra settings with DLAA) on steam vs the ps5 pro, and PC still looks way better

Granted, the game has not been patched for PS5 Pro performance yet. So let's see if it improves anything.
Thanks for sharing. Do you find that performance modes no longer look low quality, fixilated or washed out?
 
I have one, yeah. Games look mighty impressive.

It's not using DLSS though, it's using Sony's proprietary PSSR, which appears to be much better than DLSS and will keep improving.

Thanks, does it run the games at 60fps 4K with some ray tracing?
 
I have a 2017 55" OLED tv, from long before VRR was a thing. Would this significantly limit the utilization of the Pro upgrades?
 
I have more questions:

1) Does the Pro have a storage expansion slot, in addition to 2GB built-in storage?

2) Would it be possible to transfer games from my old PS5 to the Pro by transferring the extension memory unit? (I assume not, as that would just be too convenient...)
 
I have a 2017 55" OLED tv, from long before VRR was a thing. Would this significantly limit the utilization of the Pro upgrades?
I have a 10 year old Panasonic 55in OLED tv with no VRR and no 120hz refresh rate, and the pro still looks ridiculously gorgeous on it lol.

I have a newer Sony 65 inch OLED with VRR and 120hz refresh rate in my living room, I can tell that motion is definitely smoother, but switching the Pro over to my bedroom on this older TV still showcases the power of the pro.

Actually, I'm more in awe with God of War. I've never seen it look so good before. It's a PS4 game that doesn't look out of place in the PS5 world now, lol.

I have to try other games like The Order:1886 and Uncharted 4.

One thing i'm pissed about is how scarce the damn disc drives are. I still can't get my hands on one. I made a downpayment for 1 at the official sony store, and they say it's only going to come in end of December.
 
Thanks for sharing. Do you find that performance modes no longer look low quality, fixilated or washed out?
Performance mode in the original ps5 wasn't even that bad to begin with.

I was using it to play Black myth wukong and was happy with it. That is until I bought the PC version and played it in max settings. Hahaha. Then bam, the vast difference in quality hit me like a ton of bricks.
 
I have a 2017 55" OLED tv, from long before VRR was a thing. Would this significantly limit the utilization of the Pro upgrades?

I have a 55” Sony 4K OLED, doesn't have VRR but it’ll do 60FPS at 4K and I can sit about 2 meters away when playing games, according to some then I would see a difference with PS5 Pro?
 
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