If someone downgrades to the pevious version that worked well for then, what effect does it have on other users? Why does it matter to anyone even? It works better for them then how could it be a step back for those people who would get exactly what they want if that's what they want?
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The way Apple handles iOS upgrades is almost criminal.
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If someone downgrades to the pevious version that worked well for then, what effect does it have on other users? Why does it matter to anyone even? It works better for them then how could it be a step back for those people who would get exactly what they want if that's what they want?
So, does Monday's post about iOS 9 validate some of the ideas that others, including myself, have been clamoring about for the last year.
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/02/09/ios-9-stability-optimization-focus/
I'm patting myself on the back so hard I am beginning to get sore.
We have been heard forumites! We have been heard.
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/02/09/ios-9-stability-optimization-focus/
I'm patting myself on the back so hard I am beginning to get sore.
We have been heard forumites! We have been heard.
I think you should be asking Tim cook that question. I think Apple wants to move the ecosystem forward period. No do overs.
Assuming it's actually true and remains that way.So, does Monday's post about iOS 9 validate some of the ideas that others, including myself, have been clamoring about for the last year.
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/02/09/ios-9-stability-optimization-focus/
I'm patting myself on the back so hard I am beginning to get sore.
We have been heard forumites! We have been heard.
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I would too - it's good business. But a little humanity wouldn't hurt either. Like the family with limited income who could only afford to buy a hand-me-down ipad 2 or 3 - let's at least allow them the user experience that the device had the time at its release.
But then you get into these exception cases and how to handle them etc. same said family if disposable income was an issue could get other tablets as well.
There is really no pat answer, I'm trying to put myself in apples shoes and understand why they wouldn't want to support previous versions.
It is always a pain in the ass having someone using an older software, i think that it is obvious. The resources that Appe expends supporting this old software (security problems, for example) could be used for developing new services or products. And we must to remember that they already made his money with the product, they are not forced to offer updates. They could limit itself to release a new os only with new devices so i think that we have to be happy with the updates system. I'm happy at least.
Doesn't seem that reality doesn't really support that theory. OS X has been flourishing more than just fine and yet older versions can be used by those who might want to.
Hopefully iOS 9 is for A7 and A8 devices only.
Supporting older devices is great PR but when performance is impacted to the extent users don't enjoy their devices as much, then surely the time has come to cut off the iPhone 4s, 5, 5c and iPad 3 & 4?
Also, supporting too many older devices does more harm than good in terms of optimising the software for performance on newer devices.
Supporting older devices is great PR but when performance is impacted to the extent users don't enjoy their devices as much, then surely the time has come to cut off the iPhone 4s, 5, 5c and iPad 3 & 4?
Also, supporting too many older devices does more harm than good in terms of optimising the software for performance on newer devices.
To those who say people being able to take their device back to the original OS it came with would cause issues for apple to support, I have a MacBook air rev A, it's running snow leopard, so who is this causing problems for, does it cause anyone on this forum, or anyone at Apple any issues, no so why if I had an iPad 2 say running iOS 6 or 7, how is it likely to cause anyone problems it won't, what it might do is persuade an owner of a iPad 2 that has died of natural causes to buy another ipad, instead of someone who has had an iPad 2 become unusable due to a software update, going out and buying a cheap android, thinking iPads only have a short life.
No, A6 is still a very good chip should have no problems running iOS9. A5 on the other hand...
Handle it, yes it could.
Should it? I'd personally say no, simply because I (selfishly) want improvements made to be exclusive to the latest chipsets. The A7 and A8 are the only chips which utilise every aspect of iOS 8 (Metal, etc).
Older chipset support presents baggage that affects performance, and I'm fed up with older devices holding back newer ones. It's time to move on. Just my view.
You're right - it doesn't effect anything. I had ios 6 running on my ipad 3 all the way up until November 2014 until I sold it, and I didn't regret it for a minute.
The only thing it effects is apple not being able to taunt their ios 8 adoption rate. Boo hoo.
I'll wholeheartedly agree with the above when Apple quits selling outdated hardware. Last I checked they're still selling an A5 device in retail stores.
If it were me, i'd sell only the current and previous model in stores so that would be A7/A8. Then the following year A8/A9. Make iOS 64 bit ONLY and that way they would put an end to legacy devices.
That's a very good point that they still sell iPad mini1 which is A5. I wonder what iOS it ships with?
Apple IOS 8 on an iPad 2 is a POS! They didnt say "If you download your iPad will sorta work but will be very sloooooooooooooooow". They said it will work for you which is pure BS. I have had web pages reload 6 or more times with that stupid comment like there is something wrong with the page. Nothing is wrong with the page you are just using the wrong IOS. Reinstalled 8, reset it etc and it did nothing to help. This is just Apple's way to sell more devices.
Used my wife's iPad 2 air toay and it was fast and didn't have a single reload or problem. If warned that 8 would make my iP2 nearly unuseable i would not have "upgraded". And because they want you to buy a new device they won't let you go back to a previous IOS which worked. Will never download another thing from Apple until months and months have pased. Always before i downloaded any upgrade confident that It would work for me. Now i know that as long as it accomplishes their goals, like forcing me to biy a new iPad, i had better deal with their crap like most other companies. I thought Apple was better than this. I was wrong!
Used my wife's iPad 2 air toay and it was fast and didn't have a single reload or problem. If warned that 8 would make my iP2 nearly unuseable i would not have "upgraded". And because they want you to buy a new device they won't let you go back to a previous IOS which worked. Will never download another thing from Apple until months and months have pased. Always before i downloaded any upgrade confident that It would work for me. Now i know that as long as it accomplishes their goals, like forcing me to biy a new iPad, i had better deal with their crap like most other companies. I thought Apple was better than this. I was wrong!
In my opinion, Apple continuing to shut down older OS' is annoying beyond belief. Especially considering how quickly they're doing it these days. But it's not criminal, either.
How quickly??
They are doing that once a year....
Ah, I worded that incorrectly. I meant shutting down Sign Off's quickly.
Ah, ok.
But I still think informed people (and users of a forum like this are by definition informed) could avoid immediate update of iOS on 2+ years old devices, wait for the feedback, and then take their decision about update or not.
I agree, and we all most likely do. But there is also a high degree of satisfaction with personal experience. Everyone wants to have a go at the new OS releases, but it seems its become more costly than beneficial these days.
Saying that - I'm all for everyone moving forward with technology, so maybe the updates are a good eye opener that your iPhone 3G or iPad 2 (in my case) needs an update.
But as we all know there are tons of threads of people with all kinds of issues all the time, yet many don't really have any or at least nothing significant. So going by feedback it might seem like things are often when they really aren't for most. It mainly comes down to actual hands on personal experience pretty much no matter what various reviews or comments might say.
I do agree. I'm not going too be affected by any issue, since I'm going to buy a new iDevice every two years, so the latest iOS version is always fine for me.
I can stand a few bugs, initially, without being a drama queen like many MR users are.
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True, but I think people could accept minor issues now and then.
Only on forums like this I see hysteria about minor bugs ....
After any update I wait just a couple of days, watch this and Apple's forums, and then proceed...
Never had any major issue this way.
That's kind of what I'm saying, watching forums like this one you get a picture of never updating at all because there are always more posts about horrible things happening than good things. It doesn't paint an accurate picture and it still doesn't really tell you what it will be like for you and on your device. It's a useful resource of course but to a fairly limited degree.
iOS 8. At least ones made past September 2014 would. Same with the iPod Touch 5th Gen, the ones produced past September 2014 are sold with iOS 8.