Thinking of cancelling new M1 MacBook Pro order due to notch

I can't blame you or anyone for cancelling if they cannot stand the notch. It is there, and it is noticeable. But I don't mind it. I wish it wasn't there, but for me it's not a big deal. I have other issues, but the notch isn't one of them.

I think people will react differently to the notch, there's no one answer to this
 
Please cancel so someone else can see their shipping date anticipated.

The notch is purely an aesthetic issue. It does not affect any functionality or screen real estate.

If that’s enough to make you hesitate, please go ahead and make someone else happy.
 
I was deliberating my own passionate notch hatred and I realised that although I still don’t agree with the notch on any level, at least on the Mac I can actively do something about it. Within a week I’m sure someone will create a little system extension that forces the resolution down and just cuts the top X number of pixels off the screen and we can all enjoy a notchless mac.

I would enjoy my iPhone enormously more if I could just “hide notch” like a bunch of android phones have. At the very least on the Mac I can create a custom wallpaper that blacks out the menu bar. I do the same on my iPhone with a custom wallpaper but I still have to endure the notch within apps.
 
PinkyMacGodess said:
The notch is in a place that wouldn't exist in the current MBP. Apple 'gave' you a higher screen, and used the extra height of the screen to move the menu bar there, that took up space that you couldn't live without under most circumstances, and put it into that gifted higher screen area. So, from what I've read, the active screen is the same size, but the menu bar is gone. You have access to ALL of that screen, without a menu bar. Is the notch a problem with all of that being stated? They seem to be saying the screen is larger, with less constraints. Sounds like I could learn to live with the notch.
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This post above is spot on. It’s funny how the Notch Haters have ignored it.

booksbooks said:
Apple will get a flood of negative feedback on it.
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From a minority of people compared to how many buy the device. If you think otherwise, you’re spending too much time on here, which is a small area of users compared to MacBook owners.

Also, people saying how Steve Jobs wouldn’t do something, as he was a perfect messiah, are looking at Steve Jobs with rose tinted glasses, and render anything they say as irrelevant.
 
Ansath said:
This post above is spot on. It’s funny how the Notch Haters have ignored it.



From a minority of people compared to how many buy the device. If you think otherwise, you’re spending too much time on here, which is a small area of users compared to MacBook owners.

Also, people saying how Steve Jobs wouldn’t do something, as he was a perfect messiah, are looking at Steve Jobs with rose tinted glasses, and render anything they say as irrelevant.
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Yep...

Never ceases to amaze me how a product that isn't even released can get a tsunami of negative reviews. I get people are upset, but...

Heck, sometimes if I'm researching a product, I'll give the one with the most negative reviews a closer look. But wadding through reviews is so tedious. I toss the top 20%, and the bottom 20% of reviews, and then see what's left. It's so sad it has to be that way. (So many Amazon reviews are 'compensated', meaning the reviewer got a freebie. Who would slag a review for a freebie?)
 
You're right to question the notch. It's entirely possible to hide the camera in the bezel and retain the same screen and bezel size, but that would be more expensive to build and Apple cares more about its gross margins than it does its premium customers.

Even if you successfully argued the notch was strictly necessary, it's way too large. Why would Apple go too far? So there was something innocuous it could "improve" on the next iteration which promotes an upgrade. You're always on the upgrade mill, there is no escape.

The notch is simply bad design, and you should wait until they fix it or otherwise improve the screen.
 
I don’t git a heck about the notch. I’m far more interested in the performance of the MBP than the notch. It just gives a nice contract to the menu bar, and a clear separator between the left menu items and the right. It’s a flipping brilliant design decision!!!
 
nutjob said:
You're right to question the notch. It's entirely possible to hide the camera in the bezel and retain the same screen and bezel size, but that would be more expensive to build and Apple cares more about its gross margins than it does its premium customers.

Even if you successfully argued the notch was strictly necessary, it's way too large. Why would Apple go too far? So there was something innocuous it could "improve" on the next iteration which promotes an upgrade. You're always on the upgrade mill, there is no escape.

The notch is simply bad design, and you should wait until they fix it or otherwise improve the screen.
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OP should consider a windows laptop instead, and stop harshing the mellow in the forums.
 
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nutjob said:
You're right to question the notch. It's entirely possible to hide the camera in the bezel and retain the same screen and bezel size, but that would be more expensive to build and Apple cares more about its gross margins than it does its premium customers.

Even if you successfully argued the notch was strictly necessary, it's way too large. Why would Apple go too far? So there was something innocuous it could "improve" on the next iteration which promotes an upgrade. You're always on the upgrade mill, there is no escape.

The notch is simply bad design, and you should wait until they fix it or otherwise improve the screen.
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Have you actually seen how small the bezel is? It's smaller than the iPad. Also, the lid is thinner than the iPad & iPhone. You'd not be able to get the camera, LED, sensors, mic, etc into the thin bezel the new MBP has, with how thin the lid is.

Your sentence about building something more expensive, you do realise it would then trickle down to the customer, and seems like you feel like Apple is a charity, and not a business. ?

The MBP lid is not the TARDIS lol.

It's funny how all these back seat engineers on here, that obviously are just thinking they can just say things should be magically possible..... Are you an engineer? If so, what's your credentials?

You will see the notch shrink in time, like it has on the iPhone. At some point, either the tech will exist where it can all fit in the small bezel, or underscreen camera tech will be massively improved that you don't look like a smudge in the image.

It's funny how people moan about the 'upgrade' train, but are also the people that say that they want X feature/hardware brought to the device.......

I'm not a fan of the notch, but it's a necessary evil, since we've gained some real estate, plus all the other improvements in the MBP, just make the notch a minor inconvenience.
 
vddobrev said:
What? You ordered but cancelled? Why did you not read the specs before ordering? Can you think?
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Where in the spec did it show SD card slot speed or the nit limitation? Also does not confirm the hdmi port version but can only deduce from support of display stated. It looks like you could do with some thinking.
 
Ma2k5 said:
Where in the spec did it show SD card slot speed or the nit limitation? Also does not confirm the hdmi port version but can only deduce from support of display stated. It looks like you could do with some thinking.
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Agreed, those are missing. My apologies.
 
Ma2k5 said:
Where in the spec did it show SD card slot speed or the nit limitation? Also does not confirm the hdmi port version but can only deduce from support of display stated. It looks like you could do with some thinking.
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So you rather assume wrongly, instead of researching or waiting like a rational person would if unclear - given those were make or break features.

Seems like you should do “more thinking” before ordering tbh
 
Harlowgold1 said:
For some of us it has nothing to do with lost space. It's an aesthetic joke.
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I'm going to have to agree with you. I know we arent losing space, but I saw it for the first time today and it looks horrible, totally draws the eye right to it. I shouldn't have to endure such a eyesore with the $3600+ that I spent
 
booksbooks said:
I agree with this. Apple will get a flood of negative feedback on it. Steve Jobs has long left the building. There is nobody at Apple that has the guts to say no. They keep doing these stupid things that are alarming. The butterfly keyboard, the dumb TouchBar that sucked, and now a bloody notch.
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The notch has been a part of the iPhone’s design since it’s debut with the iPhone X.

The rumoured next MacBook Air is said to have one in white, which would be much harder to hide.

Like it or not, it seems the notch has become a part of Apple’s trademark design.

Do not be surprised that it will last longer than 2 years. I can see Apple modifying it as time goes by, or adding cameras for Face ID to take full advantage of the notch.

Also let’s not forget the Touch Bar is still a thing after five years of having not done so well, on the 13” MacBook Pro.
 
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