Thinking of cancelling new M1 MacBook Pro order due to notch

[SouthPalito]

lol is the notch the new home button/headphone jack/ fake controversy of 2021?

 

[44267547]

I can live with the notch whereas the touch bar was a no go.

Actually, I know a few key editors and sound composers, where they really found the Touch Bar extremely useful for their work practices. However, for the majority, was the Touch Bar necessary? No. But I do think it was a piece of ingenuity those who actually understood how to utilize it.

 

[alexqndr]

Actually, I know a few key editors and sound composers, where they really found the Touch Bar extremely useful for their work practices. However, for the majority, was the Touch Bar necessary? No. But I do think it was a piece of ingenuity those who actually understood how to utilize it.

The Touch Bar is a flawed design because it requires you to move your eyes away from the screen breaking the workflow.

The speed you can achieve with memorised keyboard shortcuts can’t be matched by the Touch Bar.

As a touch typist deep into keyboard macros, I find the idea of breaking the flow of work to look at the touch bar, unacceptable

I can see the touch bar be useful for the average user who dislikes function keys and doesn’t even grasp fully what they do. And that’s totally okay. But not for pros

 

[UncleGuido]

Press release from Apple. Embargoed until October 27, 2021.

"Apple has always been guided by the desires and needs of our customers. Our designers thought that the notch in the display of the 2021 Macbook Pros was a clever way to maximize the screen area. We removed the menu bar from its former position in the 16:10 content rectangle, and placed it in the otherwise empty spaces on either side of the FaceTime camera and ambient light sensors. We even provided APIs and user preference settings to render the notch invisible. But even the theoretical presence of the notch has apparently caused tremendous distress and anger for our loyal users. We regret this, and we will provide a solution to correct their concerns. Starting today, all 2021 Macbook Pros will ship with a strip of black tape that can be applied to the screen to completely cover the notch, simulating the 1/4" black bezel that you love. We will not make this mistake again. For example, we are including below a "sneak peak" of the upcoming VR/AR AppleGlass, now redesigned to eliminate the notch. Users of this product will require minor plastic surgery, and Apple will be providing referrals to co-branded practitioners."

 

[booksbooks]

Have you actually seen how small the bezel is? It's smaller than the iPad. Also, the lid is thinner than the iPad & iPhone. You'd not be able to get the camera, LED, sensors, mic, etc into the thin bezel the new MBP has, with how thin the lid is.

Your sentence about building something more expensive, you do realise it would then trickle down to the customer, and seems like you feel like Apple is a charity, and not a business. ?

The MBP lid is not the TARDIS lol.

It's funny how all these back seat engineers on here, that obviously are just thinking they can just say things should be magically possible..... Are you an engineer? If so, what's your credentials?

You will see the notch shrink in time, like it has on the iPhone. At some point, either the tech will exist where it can all fit in the small bezel, or underscreen camera tech will be massively improved that you don't look like a smudge in the image.

It's funny how people moan about the 'upgrade' train, but are also the people that say that they want X feature/hardware brought to the device.......

I'm not a fan of the notch, but it's a necessary evil, since we've gained some real estate, plus all the other improvements in the MBP, just make the notch a minor inconvenience.

Some of us are actually engineers and product designers.

 

[booksbooks]

Wow! The new MacBook Pro is an absolute tank. It is a good chunk thicker, larger, and heavier. It's like we've gone back in time. This is bizarre.

 

[3Rock]

Let’s try this once again. The notch is not intrusive. Look at the photo and look at the menu bar. Isn’t that an area that does not bother anybody? It’s always been there. That is where the notch is located so it’s not intrusive into the screen. If you’re not concerned about the menu bar, you shouldn’t be concerned about The notch

 

[haruhiko]

Returning my MacBook Pro because reasons.
yay I’ve got my 15 minute of fame. Thanks.

 

[44267547]

Returning my MacBook Pro because reasons.
yay I’ve got my 15 minute of fame. Thanks.

I’m pretty excited about upgrading my MacBook. I’m happy with my 2019, but the notch doesn’t bother me in the slightest. As a matter fact, I actually welcome it, just as I did with the iPhone. And for those who are canceling their orders with their MacBooks, they’re doing the right thing, because it just bumps me up further to receive mine earlier.

 

[Marshall73]

When you get it take a screenshot use that as a template in photoshop, add your wallpaper ontop of the screenshot but align it with the bottom edge, then black out the space at the top used by the menu bar. Now export the image as PNG and use it as your wallpaper. You will now have a black menu bar at the top to hide the notch.

 

[Ansath]

Some of us are actually engineers and product designers.

Some probably are, but highly doubt certain people who make certain claims about how the camera and all the tech could fit in the small bezel, cos of the iPhone & iPad, despite the lid being thinner, so the tech wouldn’t really fit.

Wow! The new MacBook Pro is an absolute tank. It is a good chunk thicker, larger, and heavier. It's like we've gone back in time. This is bizarre.

Well, it’s not a MacBook Air. It’s a pro, and it’s more powerful than the previous ones. Pros would easily accept the trade off.

 

[Harlowgold1]

I'm going to have to agree with you. I know we arent losing space, but I saw it for the first time today and it looks horrible, totally draws the eye right to it. I shouldn't have to endure such a eyesore with the $3600+ that I spent

I agree adjeff8!

 

[haruhiko]

I’m pretty excited about upgrading my MacBook. I’m happy with my 2019, but the notch doesn’t bother me in the slightest. As a matter fact, I actually welcome it, just as I did with the iPhone. And for those who are canceling their orders with their MacBooks, they’re doing the right thing, because it just bumps me up further to receive mine earlier.

Yeah exactly. Welcome to cancel all your orders so that people who really want one can get it earlier.

 

[tmoerel]

I have a had a notch forever......never bothered me

 

[haruhiko]

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I have a had a notch forever......never bothered me

You have a l….otch, a lotch.

 

[madebybela]

Years ago I went to the Apple Store to get a 2018 iPad Pro. I wanted it in Space Grey, however they were out of stock and only had Silver models left. I reluctantly decide to opt for the Silver model, however the sales employee noticed my hesitation and talked me into waiting it out. Told me something along the lines of-

"You're about to spend a lot of money on something you're going to be using and looking at for years. Might as well enjoy how it looks too."

Granted that was over a COLOR you don't even see in use + could easily just slap a case on.

Personally I'm gonna wait it out and see if anyone makes software that blacks out the notch and bumps the menubar back down. Otherwise I'll probably try and make do with an M1 13" Pro until the notchless 2025 M5X Turbo Max Juicer MacBook Pro comes out.

 

[tmoerel]

BTW....if a notch is what is keeping back from getting a M1 Pro or Mac MBP then you probably are not in need of it. If you need these machines to up your productivity then a notch will not stop you!

 

[Harlowgold1]

In some of these pictures that I've seen, the notch appears to look like an open webpage tab. Several Youtuber's are stating the the notch was intentionally created to reflect Apple's unique design philosophy. I would have to agree in that they're succeeding in that area. The best design and marketing cue was the Apple logo that lit up. I never saw it while working on the laptop, but it really created brand recognition. I would've preferred a small black Apple logo for the camera. I honestly congratulate all of you that made a purchase! I will wait until facial recognition is included in the notch. I'm guessing it will appear next year. Just my personal opinions and preferences.

 

[Fthree]

So you’d rather have less screen real estate and no notch than more screen and a notch? Sounds like you just need one of the current models and dont need to waste your time and money on the new 14/16s.

 

[Harlowgold1]

So you’d rather have less screen real estate and no notch than more screen and a notch? Sounds like you just need one of the current models and dont need to waste your time and money on the new 14/16s.

I love any extra screen size that I can get! Perhaps I need time to get used to appearance. I don't want to go the PC route and I love Apple OS. I know we can't have it all, it just seems so intrusive.

 

[Lammers]

Obviously everyone would prefer if it didn’t have the notch, all else being equal, but it does. So if it bothers you that much then by all means don’t buy these computers. Just consider what you’re losing by taking that view.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

A valid reply to a thread that many of us see as pure hyperbole.

Not seeing many, if any reviews that call the notch “a disaster” which is what this thread would seem to imply.

Yeah, the histrionics would make a three-year old jelly... It's like reviews. A percentage will never buy one, a percentage can't afford one, and a percentage just wants to egg on the drama. *shrug*

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

I love any extra screen size that I can get! Perhaps I need time to get used to appearance. I don't want to go the PC route and I love Apple OS. I know we can't have it all, it just seems so intrusive.

You are aware that the promenant macOS menu bar isn't in the main screen area anymore, so you ARE getting more screen, right? Apple 'gave' you a small thin area of screen to both sides of the notch, and moved the most prominent part of macOS to an area off the main screen. Short answer: YOU GET MORE USABLE SCREEN, AND THINNER BEZELS...

I look at the images of the new MBP and am almost instantly envious. The thinner bezels are AWESOME! It looks like I could fall into them. Moving the macOS menu bar off the main screen is a major win too. I think users won with this new design. If I had lived a 'better' life, my soul might be worth enough to buy one. *sigh*

 

[Ma2k5]

So you rather assume wrongly, instead of researching or waiting like a rational person would if unclear - given those were make or break features.

Seems like you should do “more thinking” before ordering tbh

I didn’t assume anything - the rational thing was to order before delivery dates slipped (which they now have) with the free option to cancel if the specs are not to my liking when revealed. I think some of you guys have very limited critical thinking - I did the best action given the situation, which was to order as soon as possible to get the fastest delivery date should I decide to keep the order.. I have lost nothing by ordering early.

 

[MOBBLYSNOOK]

I haven't ordered yet but plan to get the 14". The only reason the notch is there is because Apple extended the display up on the sides of the camera instead of making a larger bezel. A better question would be why did you order in the first place if you thought the notch was a problem?

Newbie here. Would it take add'l hardware in the notch for Face ID. Or is just possibly something they could turn on?