It needs a infrared dot projector and stereo infrared camera. Not something you turn on!
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Thinking of cancelling new M1 MacBook Pro order due to notch
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It really does. They’re the one company not afraid to make the changes they see fit for the future. Is everything they do perfect or without flaw? Nope. But that’s how tech works in general.
The whole notch hysteria is primarily for those who are over obsessed. In my network of those so I know in the tech industry, and even in general with average consumers, I have never heard complaints about the notch. It’s a very vocal, localized, small percentage of people on here that do.
I bought one, despite not being thrilled about the notch. My basic opinion on it is that I wish it wasn't there (would rather a hole punch if they must) but I also think I will very rarely notice it after I get used to it. It's fine.
Yeah definitely gotta put a stop to the wrongthink here. It shall not be tolerated.
It's not an engineering problem, it's a trade-off, which what most actual engineering is. Apple chose a mediocre solution to protect it's margins, not because of physical impossibility. They of course have that freedom, and their (potential) customers have the freedom to call them out on it.
They often do this sort of thing to feed the upgrade pipeline, they put out a otherwise fine product with an annoying, but not show stopping problem. Then they fix it (or make it a bit smaller) in the next iteration so people are motivated to upgrade, and so on ad infinitum.
Sorry, but that’s really pathetic. Looks like you are joking.
I have been using apple products for a while and just from past history, I am certain that this is not the last product to get the notch.
One product at a time.
One product at a time.
It actually doesn’t look that bad lol
I was outraged when it was first announced. But being such a huge screen I guess tot doesn’t feel like a big compromise if any
Still wish they just didn’t do it
The iPad Pro does NOT have a Notch and has Face ID. The New MacBook Pro has a huge Notch but Lacks Face ID.
that’s why I cancled my PreOrder plus violates Apple Rule #1 is never buy Gen 1 of ANY Product.
that’s why I cancled my PreOrder plus violates Apple Rule #1 is never buy Gen 1 of ANY Product.
you already knew that this is gen 1 ...and you still preordered? Stop with this misleading..
When we started with the preorders everybody knew about the notch and that its a first gen product...you included
the ipad pro has thicker bezels since its a touch horizontal device
As an Maya pro app user, i love the notch and let me explain
The notch is a border that was there already but Apple expand the display beyond the 16:10 aspect ratio full native 2x scaling
So for pro users, they can use their full apps in their perfectly 16:10 aspect ratio but also have the full menu bar on top whenever they want/need
And of course, like others said..better take the heat now and land the foundation for faceID next generation that will require 0 effort from design stand point.
*facepalm*
Are you serious?..
The iPad bezel size is significantly wider than the 'non notch' bezel on top of the Macbook Pro.
As such, any iPad out at this time does not, incorporate FaceID with bezel of lesser or equivalent width than that of the Macbook Pro top.
It seems that many people in this thread choose to ignore this, despite it being mentioned often.
It never stops amazing me how many people on Macrumors defend Apple. The notch is stupid. It is a problem in search of a solution, as it causes the screen of a computer to not be uniform. It creates all kinds of weird and unacceptable usability issues and other problems. The only reason it exists is because Apple has been unable to put the front camera array and sensors in a tiny bezel, or make these parts transparent.
Once the notch is gone, and Apple is able to put a front facing camera and sensor array on their devices in a way that fits with a uniform and thin screen bezel, all of you will run and buy those upgrades, and will never look at. You'll never say, "I can't use this device without a notch", because the notch not only serves no purpose, it causes a bunch of problems.
No excuses. Apple needs to step up and make a thin bezel and fit the camera and sensor array in it. To say it's not possible is absurd.
Then the whole question comes around choice. If I were the Product Manager, I would say no to the notch and put a worse front-facing camera on so I could achieve a thin, uniform bezel. But this would only be a Plan B: I would push to make the device with a great front-facing camera and no notch.
The way the new MacBook Pros are, they look like they've gone back in time like 10 years. They aren't just a little bit thicker and heavier, they are a lot thicker and heavier. When you look at a 16" M1 Pro/Max next to a 16" intel version, the 16" intel version actually looks better in many ways. Much thinner, much lighter, much smaller. And here we thought that Apple silicon was supposed to be more efficient but they made these things fat and heavy. I realize part of it is to support legacy ports, which is another stupid thing they should have never done and just continued on with USB C.
Once the notch is gone, and Apple is able to put a front facing camera and sensor array on their devices in a way that fits with a uniform and thin screen bezel, all of you will run and buy those upgrades, and will never look at. You'll never say, "I can't use this device without a notch", because the notch not only serves no purpose, it causes a bunch of problems.
No excuses. Apple needs to step up and make a thin bezel and fit the camera and sensor array in it. To say it's not possible is absurd.
Then the whole question comes around choice. If I were the Product Manager, I would say no to the notch and put a worse front-facing camera on so I could achieve a thin, uniform bezel. But this would only be a Plan B: I would push to make the device with a great front-facing camera and no notch.
The way the new MacBook Pros are, they look like they've gone back in time like 10 years. They aren't just a little bit thicker and heavier, they are a lot thicker and heavier. When you look at a 16" M1 Pro/Max next to a 16" intel version, the 16" intel version actually looks better in many ways. Much thinner, much lighter, much smaller. And here we thought that Apple silicon was supposed to be more efficient but they made these things fat and heavy. I realize part of it is to support legacy ports, which is another stupid thing they should have never done and just continued on with USB C.
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Tl:dr Op didn’t read post 220 by @-BigMac- (which was just 2 posts before his, making the juxtaposition sweeter) & also expects all the new crazy new power, whilst also expecting the device to be a MacBook Air in thinness now, like it’s a TARDIS ? With the 2nd paragraph just being a nonsensical ramble! ?
Also, not one of us has actually said we like a notch, we are just realistic & understand technological limitations.
Face it, the people that go hyperbolic over notches are in the minority, compared to the audience of the MacBook Pro, who wanted a dedicated HDMI port back, MagSafe back, a better front facing camera, more screen real estate, more power, etc.
I get that people can live with the notch. It just looks like a bad design. It looks bad on the iPhone and it looks bad on the MacBook Pro. At least it houses more than a webcam on the iPhone. Just give me a narrow bezel across the top. They don’t seem to have any problem with a bezel across the bottom. No need to cut into the screen.
That said, I’ll just buy one and deal with it. Everything else about the new MacBooks pros tips the scales in the other direction. I can live with it. But I still think it’s stupid and we all know Apple will eventually ditch the notch on both iPhone and MacBook Pro and tout it as an innovation. Save me your ******** Tim Apple, just say you had to make a compromise. We all know it’s a compromise, but it’s frustrating when they try to spin it as a plus, when we know they will eventually admit fault by removing it like they did with the stupid Touch Bar.
That said, I’ll just buy one and deal with it. Everything else about the new MacBooks pros tips the scales in the other direction. I can live with it. But I still think it’s stupid and we all know Apple will eventually ditch the notch on both iPhone and MacBook Pro and tout it as an innovation. Save me your ******** Tim Apple, just say you had to make a compromise. We all know it’s a compromise, but it’s frustrating when they try to spin it as a plus, when we know they will eventually admit fault by removing it like they did with the stupid Touch Bar.
a notch is better than a hole punch.
Also, on the MacBook, there’s more than just a webcam in the notch area.
When the tech is there, to hose it all in a thin bezel, whilst also having a thin lid, they will ditch the notch. It’s just that it’s not there yet.
At least it’s in a part of the menu that’s never used, the middle of the menu bar & that menu bar has been moved out of the 16:10 screen area up above it.