Well I guess they'll all just continue to be wrong then. I just don't get pushing the same old narrative over and over when it's been proven to be a success.
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Tim Cook: iPhone X is a 'Super Bowl Winner' Even if You Wanted It to Win 'By a Few More Points'
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Well I guess they'll all just continue to be wrong then. I just don't get pushing the same old narrative over and over when it's been proven to be a success.
My comprehension skills seem to be low, because I translated it into: “analysts that keep saying iPhone X is a failure have no ****ing clue”.
Yeah,
Doubt it. But go ahead, make a donation to Apple, let's see you send them a grand just because you love the X.
People hate winners.
Couldn't care either way about the success of the X. I let that rah! rah! rah! to those that want to validate their purchase.
I am just (impatiently) waiting for two things:
TC and crew will then have my money. But no additional pennies to pay for Apple services (iCloud storage, ATV, iTunes, ...).
[Apple income from services appear to have taken front row, now and in the future, but I only use what comes bundled-in on the afore-mentioned devices, and refuse to gift Apple more. And, that is just me.]
I am just (impatiently) waiting for two things:
- an updated iPhone SE Mark II.
- an MBP 15-in with an improved keyboard and with USB3.1/USB-C PD MagSafe built-in. (And accept that dongles are now the Apple way.)
TC and crew will then have my money. But no additional pennies to pay for Apple services (iCloud storage, ATV, iTunes, ...).
[Apple income from services appear to have taken front row, now and in the future, but I only use what comes bundled-in on the afore-mentioned devices, and refuse to gift Apple more. And, that is just me.]
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I seriously doubt you are very tech savvy. You do sound very disgruntled though.
So much truth in that statement.
As the head of my organization - a person I admire - once said to me while he was under “political” attack, “I acknowledge those who hate me, but I will never let them tell my story; I will work hard so that I am the only one that can.”
Looking back every quarter had a drop in ASP the further you got from a product launch. Q1 2017 had an ASP of $695, Q2 2017 had an iPhone ASP of $655, and Q3 2017 had an iPhone ASP of $606. I don't think you can read too much from the ASP drop because it looks to be a normal trend.
Here's a hypothetical sales distribution: SE-10%, 6S-10% , 6S+-10%, 7-12%, 7S-12%, 8-15%, 8+-15%, X-16%,
total -100%. The X outsold every other model, yet outsells no model by more than 6% and overall captures only 1/6 of the sales. Yet it would be a factual basis for Cook's comment about the X outselling all other models. Not that I wouldn't love to have an X, it just shows how if you dig around in the numbers enough you may come up with something positive in a gloomy set of data, so just because something is presented as a great thing, it should be examined closely.
total -100%. The X outsold every other model, yet outsells no model by more than 6% and overall captures only 1/6 of the sales. Yet it would be a factual basis for Cook's comment about the X outselling all other models. Not that I wouldn't love to have an X, it just shows how if you dig around in the numbers enough you may come up with something positive in a gloomy set of data, so just because something is presented as a great thing, it should be examined closely.
Thing is, I just picked up an X yesterday at Costco, AT&T $650 in total credits made my final price $500 plus tax for the 256MB version; a 64MB would have cost $350.
I have *never* seen this kind of discount for a flagship iPhone before, perhaps Apple is realizing that they are not going to meet their sales targets with $1000+ phones. And that doesn't mean the X is a flop, just means it was overpriced and after the early adopters not enough potential customers were willing to spring $1000+ for the device.
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Of course Tim isn't going to point out the bad points. His job is to pump the stock as much as possible while still being sure not to tell any lies.
I don't think the iPhone X is selling anywhere near as well as Apple thought it would. Total unit sales are stagnant for a fourth year and are on track to be 15 million less than the highest year back in FY15. ASP would indicate the X made up around 25% of Q1 sales and 20% of Q2 sales. That is a total of around 30 million units, and if trends continue it would look like they will struggle to sell 45 million units for the entire year.
This year's mix of devices was very disappointing. I do believe Apple knew the appeal of a $1,000 device was going to be very limited and as a result carried over the outdated design of the original iPhone 6 into a fourth generation.
Maybe Apple will offer a modern design phone in the $600 - $700 price range next year that will have mass-market appeal and reverse the market share stagnation.
I don't think the iPhone X is selling anywhere near as well as Apple thought it would. Total unit sales are stagnant for a fourth year and are on track to be 15 million less than the highest year back in FY15. ASP would indicate the X made up around 25% of Q1 sales and 20% of Q2 sales. That is a total of around 30 million units, and if trends continue it would look like they will struggle to sell 45 million units for the entire year.
This year's mix of devices was very disappointing. I do believe Apple knew the appeal of a $1,000 device was going to be very limited and as a result carried over the outdated design of the original iPhone 6 into a fourth generation.
Maybe Apple will offer a modern design phone in the $600 - $700 price range next year that will have mass-market appeal and reverse the market share stagnation.
That is true. The moment they bring a design that is better handheld than the Plus, it sells better!
Another blow for the "Apple is doomed" mindset here and out in the pundit / analyst category although at least here they are unpaid amateurs...how do these professional liars keep their jobs ?
Bingo! I have stuck with my 6 for a few years because (1) loss of the headphone jack and (2) substandard camera on "normal" sized 7 and 8. The Plus size was never an option for me. The X finally gave me (almost) all the features I wanted, the first time Apple did that since 2014 and the Apple 6.
(The $650 in credits Costco/AT&T is currently giving on the X also doesn't hurt - the retail price of the X is definitely too high.)
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I don't think you understand math at all. The overall iPhone revenue actually went up YoY significantly more than the iPhone unit sales went up YoY. This disproves your entire platform.When your average sale price goes down during the sales cycle of a product series, that means your top end product is not selling well. It's simple math.
Timmy clearly does not possess the Reality Distortion Field or mistakenly thinks he does. But no one is buying it.
You don't seem to understand logic and math very well.
Sorry, I'm not into Android. I have no clue what they offer software-wise and am not interested in it because it is Apple that promises me innovation and technological advantages for the rising premiums I pay for its products. And frankly what they offer software-wise is becoming more of a mess with every major release. I have five pending bug reports for iOS 11, mainly regarding notifications and homescreen - none of the issues has been resolved over the last months.
That’s not any longer the Apple I gladly gave my money to because I knew I was getting high quality products and a hassle-free user experience in exchange.
I agree. Extensive R&D only results in incremental advancement, not radical change. That's why R&D is more suitable for engineering and biotech field. Building a product has nothing to with R&D, it has to do with the mindset. How many PhD holders have come up with new products that have blown our mind? As far as I know, none! Look around and you will notice that all the radical product designs have come from people who are not deep into research!
So Apple investing 100B into stock buyback is more worthwhile than investing into R&D. The bad feeling I am having is that the success factor of Apple may become the death facotr of Apple. When Apple turns into Microsoft, we already know it's own death spiral.
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Genuinely interested to know which carrier and what type of rebates you got. I am in the market to buy 3 phones for my family. Please message me or reply here.
Overall, I think the iPhone X is a really good phone. The screen is just plain beautiful, fantastic, amazing, etc... There are a few minor issues I have with it - lots of accidental screen shots, Siri requests and mis-dials when putting it in my pocket or bag drive me a little crazy sometimes - but overall, I don't think I could go back to a non-Face ID phone. I am, however, looking forward to a larger model. I totally miss the general feel and size of my previous 7 Plus. I will definitely upgrade to a larger screened model when available.
I love seeing how some here try so hard to come up with iPhone model sales ratios in attempt to put the X in a less favorable light. All guesses, and no facts.
All in order to feel better about themselves. Not healthy getting so frothed up.
The good news is Apple manufacturers and sells an array of iPhones with different features and prices; thus driving their record setting second quarter. That's a winning strategy.
Can't afford or don't need an X? No worries, pick an iPhone that's less less expensive, or one from a different manufacturer.
All in order to feel better about themselves. Not healthy getting so frothed up.
The good news is Apple manufacturers and sells an array of iPhones with different features and prices; thus driving their record setting second quarter. That's a winning strategy.
Can't afford or don't need an X? No worries, pick an iPhone that's less less expensive, or one from a different manufacturer.
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I'm really surprised the press doesn't catch on to what the financial prognosticators continue to do with Apple claims, as they work to manipulate the share price and/or brand value. It's so obvious, the fact that they're simply throwing out negative stories, when they're almost entirely without merit should be an embarrassment to these guys. But I think they've gotten away with it for so long, without punishment, that they're just going to keep doing it.
By driving the stock price down, they might have accomplished a greater goal.
But clearly, people here are only focused on Apple #winning against naysayers. If you were smart, you'd forget the idea of being "right" against naysayers and do a little gambling