Tim Cook Says 250 Apple Employees Are 'Dreamers' as Donald Trump's Decision on DACA Nears

[cgsnipinva]

To be fair, it's unclear if the iPhone 1.0 could have been made in the US because the engineering and assembly were really tightly linked. The US just couldn't really manufacture stuff at that level of precision/scale/iteration. Heck, it was hard for Foxconn to do it.

What?? We manufacture microprocessors, jet engines, commercial and military aircraft and high end medical equipment here in the US. And you think we couldn't manufacture a phone> Ok got it.
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Strictly speaking, DACA didn't make anyone "not illegal" -- at it's core it is an executive order to not enforce the laws in the case of those who meet certain certain criteria.

It is the legislative branch that has the power to create and modify laws, within the scope set by the Constitution. As such, it is Congress who can impart true legal status on those qualifying for DACA. Some would say that the DACA program was actually unconstitutional; as a formal directive to ignore the law it effectively violated the Constitutional duty of the President to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed"

EXACTLY - someone with some fact based argument without emotion.

There was another problem with Obama's executive order - not only did it unconstitutionally formalize non-enforcement of existing law (ie. his duty as President) --- it created a whole class of immigrants that are not identified anywhere in statute. On that alone its unconstitutional and unsustainable.

An issue like this can only be addressed (or not addressed) by Congress. That is their Constitutional power. Plain and simple.

 

[MistrSynistr]

didn't expect an apple news site to have so many trump supporters, and despite the mods removing tons of their posts from this thread, they still greatly outweigh the anti-trump ones.

Because people are waking up to the lies and embrace the truth. Why don't you?

 

[iReality85]

Speaking as someone who is a moderate Republican, I have no issue with these so-called Dreamers.

But the DACA program in and of itself represents the on going issue of politicians not wanting to address and fix the issue of illegal immigration into the US. The fact that Obama had to create DACA through an Executive Order and not by Congress enacting legislation speaks volumes about the state of our government. Not saying DACA is right either; it's a symptom of a larger ailment affecting government.

 

[MistrSynistr]

Sounds like a smart guy. And he is right. In fact, you're lucky to have such a rational friend. You've made zero effort in the past to correct anyone when they spoke of Hillary, including in this thread, in bad light. Yet to chose to point out a factually correct issue of POTUS, including the disgusting and vile things he's said in the past. You've chosen to be silent until my post. Ridiculous.

Trump is a garbage human being. He is not a true Republican. He is a charlatan much like the current GOP. As a GOP voter, he does not represent the true values of the GOP and he and much like him have made it the party of asshats. There's no sugar coating it. Even without all his decisions as POTUS, just his behavior and how he treats people makes him a POS.

Next time you want to get up on your high horse, consider who you're defending and if they're worth the effort.

Don't expect me or other voters, left or right, to defend that man or be nice in how we describe him. He's made ******** effort in being respectable to others, and few Trumper's have made an effort to rein in their commentary of Clinton. I don't like the woman either, but I'm not going to bother spending 10+ months still whinging about her when she lost the election. 10+ months later and some in PRSI have what I'd call an infatuation with the woman.

You are a RINO and the main reason we cannot get anything done in this country. YOU are to blame. You and your ilk.

The reason people are "still whining" about Hillary is because she has committed treasonous, egregious crimes of the highest order, that have been buried by her cronies in the alphabet swamp. The whole reason Trump was elected, to get these people, and the nefarious, scum sucking individuals you are sticking up for, OUT OUT OUT.

Someone like you, who still follows mainstream media and the fake narrative developed about the President, are why this country needs a revolution. Running this place isn't about being NICE, it's about doing what's RIGHT.

 

[cgsnipinva]

Speaking as someone who is a moderate Republican, I have no issue with these so-called Dreamers.

But the DACA program in and of itself represents the on going issue of politicians not wanting to address and fix the issue of illegal immigration into the US. The fact that Obama had to create DACA through an Executive Order and not by Congress enacting legislation speaks volumes about the state of our government. Not saying DACA is right either; it's a symptom of a larger ailment affecting government.

I do agree with your post in general. However, I don't necessarily agree that we need any new laws. The problem was not with our current immigration law (in fact we have very generous legal immigration laws that actually could be tightened up). It was with not enforcing the law for 30 years that got us where we are and the creation of an idea that immigration is a right.
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Don't expect me or other voters, left or right, to defend that man or be nice in how we describe him. He's made ******** effort in being respectable to others, and few Trumper's have made an effort to rein in their commentary of Clinton. I don't like the woman either, but I'm not going to bother spending 10+ months still whinging about her when she lost the election. 10+ months later and some in PRSI have what I'd call an infatuation with the woman.

I think you mixing that point up. It is Hillary who hasn't let the nation move on after the election. She keeps showing up everywhere doing her own psychological review of the 2016 election trying to blame everyone else but herself.

When you start a paragraph describing someone as "human garbage" and then complain about everyone else's demeanor is odd.

 

[iReality85]

I do agree with your post in general. However, I don't necessarily agree that we need any new laws. The problem was not with our current immigration law (in fact we have very generous legal immigration laws that actually could be tightened up). It was with not enforcing the law for 30 years that got us where we are and the creation of an idea that immigration is a right.

Agreed; I'd like to see all the loopholes closed. But it is tough to deal with when one major political party and ~half the country believes that anyone in the world as a 'right' to come to the US, the US should have open borders, etc. To make matters worse, you now have balkanization among the states and even businesses with everything from sanctuary cities, immigrants rights, non-citizens using welfare, and on and on and on.

We've wound up here because Congress has let this issue fester over decades while not doing anything, because it has been in their political best interest to do nothing.

 

[GermanSuplex]

I like Hillary, and actually listen to what she has to say, whether I agree with all of it or not. She's had a storied career and has every right to give speeches or write books, just as everyone else has the right to not listen. It was an election she ran in, and she has every right to tell us why she thinks she lost. Hell, Trump won, and lies about that... millions of undocumented voters, and how its "impossible" to win the electoral college, despite it being the ONLY reason he won.

As for DACA, there is not any real thought behind this... its just anti-immigrant, tearing down an Obama-era policy that is red meat for his dwindling amount of supporters.

 

[PizzaBoxStyle]

I've thought about this, and I think a few things need to happen here.

1. The people/"dreamers" who are here now should be allowed to stay and should become full US citizens. Anything else would be unfair.
2. Policy needs to be enacted to prevent this situation from happening again the the future. While we do need to document who is coming in to the country, it's also crappy to let people get themselves into this kind of a situation.
3. Every CEO who just admitted that they have actively employed undocumented citizens needs to have a multi-year tax punishment leveled against them <their corporations>. Squeeze them and make them hurt.

 

[Rocketman]

Amazing that you let "R" senators completely off the hook. The Rs control both houses of Congress. Yet, you seem to think only D vote matter. I would be fascinated to hear you lay out the process where Ds could fix immigration without the majority Rs or the R President.

Oh, wait! You said "illegals mostly vote for D". Yeah, I can see how this all works out now.

Obviously they will vote for a bill they author. It takes 60 votes for some things to pass. That's why it takes SOME D votes. Except for budget bills which only take 51. The house is not an issue, the Senate is. The President is not an issue because he has been both a D and an R (barely) so is a moderate.

I spoke with a couple D activists that have since turned the keys to the new generation. They asked me if three conditions still existed when I voted in CA. I checked and they did. They said they had crews of folks and voted for people who typically do not vote at all. All they had to provide was verbally a name and a matching address. Those are posted outside the polling place. They go to 3-4 polling places in a day. They have a bunch of folks in the crews and target key districts. I presume this happens in other non-ID states as well.

 

[0388631]

You are a RINO and the main reason we cannot get anything done in this country. YOU are to blame. You and your ilk.

Get lost. The only RINO is Trump. He was a lifelong diehard liberal. You think he's a Republican now? Hah. You want an idiot to run the country. By all means, go ahead. If in four years we're still in the same mess as today, that is on you and you RINOs.

 

[cgsnipinva]

Agreed; I'd like to see all the loopholes closed. But it is tough to deal with when one major political party and ~half the country believes that anyone in the world as a 'right' to come to the US, the US should have open borders, etc. To make matters worse, you now have balkanization among the states and even businesses with everything from sanctuary cities, immigrants rights, non-citizens using welfare, and on and on and on.

We've wound up here because Congress has let this issue fester over decades while not doing anything, because it has been in their political best interest to do nothing.

Concur on points.
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Get lost. The only RINO is Trump. He was a lifelong diehard liberal. You think he's a Republican now? Hah. You want an idiot to run the country. By all means, go ahead. If in four years we're still in the same mess as today, that is on you and you RINOs.

Hmm a diehard liberal that wants to cut taxes, deregulate, is pro-life, appoints Supreme Court Justices that are more conservative than the ones both Bush's appointed and is pro-defense and is openly patriotic.

Hmm that is one odd liberal.

 

[0388631]

I think you mixing that point up. It is Hillary who hasn't let the nation move on after the election. She keeps showing up everywhere doing her own psychological review of the 2016 election trying to blame everyone else but herself.

You stop giving attention to someone. The problem goes away. It's quite simple. Anytime that woman Tweets or speaks, there's a dozen members here posting within minutes.

When you start a paragraph describing someone as "human garbage" and then complain about everyone else's demeanor is odd.

Is it? It's well deserved. If a cop were to arrest a criminal and call him human garbage, because he is, does that make the cop a bad person? Now, compare that to some of the political commentary Clinton has gotten from members on this site who weren't into her, not even remotely at that. Do you think that's deserved, fair or wrong?

The difference here is that Trump has done so much wrong as a private citizen and as POTUS so far. I see a lot of people ignoring that, placing blind faith in the guy. How is that being American? And yet, those of us on the Right, who don't support him, are told we're on the wrong side of history.
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Hmm a diehard liberal that wants to cut taxes, deregulate, is pro-life, appoints Supreme Court Justices that are more conservative than the ones both Bush's appointed and is pro-defense and is openly patriotic.

You do know he was being heavily influenced by Priebus, Bannon, et al, right? For someone who's pro-defense, he sure knows jack about our defenses. Everything must be explained to him. You want to be a Trump supporter? That's your right as a citizen. Just don't expect some of us to like him. He's done few things that have earned my praise.

But hey, MAGA, right?

Congress will decide, but Congress also has two issues at hand.

1. Continue DACA and contain the Latino voting block for the Dems and the Republicans. You would be surprised at the amount of Latinos who vote Republican. This would enrage hardcore Trump supporters, and thus Congressional members in 2018 may lose their seat.

2. Abort DACA, lose the Latino vote for both sides, but pacify the extreme right-wing.

 

[cgsnipinva]

You stop giving attention to someone. The problem goes away. It's quite simple. Anytime that woman Tweets or speaks, there's a dozen members here posting within minutes.



Is it? It's well deserved. If a cop were to arrest a criminal and call him human garbage, because he is, does that make the cop a bad person? Now, compare that to some of the political commentary Clinton has gotten from members on this site who weren't into her, not even remotely at that. Do you think that's deserved, fair or wrong?

The difference here is that Trump has done so much wrong as a private citizen and as POTUS so far. I see a lot of people ignoring that, placing blind faith in the guy. How is that being American? And yet, those of us on the Right, who don't support him, are told we're on the wrong side of history.
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You do know he was being heavily influenced by Priebus, Bannon, et al, right? For someone who's pro-defense, he sure knows jack about our defenses. Everything must be explained to him. You want to be a Trump supporter? That's your right as a citizen. Just don't expect some of us to like him. He's done few things that have earned my praise.

But hey, MAGA, right?

So what has he done wrong as a private citizen? And provide something real not made up by a bias-press that has been caught multiple times in out right fabrications? Do we also judge Bill Clinton by the fact he was a serial adulterer and had multiple claims of rape against him? Are you going to rail against him on that?

Now what has Trump done that is so bad as president? He had a great Supreme Court pick, he deregulated, he is pushing for tax reform and would have repealed Obamacare if the Republicans in Congress weren't working against him in addition to the Dems and the media.

You claim Trump doesn't know jack about the military -- except to maybe let the Generals run things as they know best. But I will refer to the previous President --- who knew even less and actively gutted the military and then tried to turn it into a social program. I will also point to Clinton he defunded the military and even said that he loathed the military. But I am sure they were just fine in your eyes -- no?

 

[0388631]

Every CEO who just admitted that they have actively employed undocumented citizens needs to have a multi-year tax punishment leveled against them. Squeeze them and make them hurt.

The issue with that is most take a low salary and a high stock stipend. They cash in stock as they see fit. Unless you went after their assets. Though, you would have to prove they actually knew and not based on their word. Specifically, if they had first-hand knowledge of illegal employees, and not someone in HR who told them.

 

[GermanSuplex]

Concur on points.
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Hmm a diehard liberal that wants to cut taxes, deregulate, is pro-life, appoints Supreme Court Justices that are more conservative than the ones both Bush's appointed and is pro-defense and is openly patriotic.

Hmm that is one odd liberal.

It's well known he was a NYC lib for a long time, and all if you have to do is go to Youtube to watch past interviews of him to know most of his social stances were highly liberal/centrist. It wasn't until Obama became president that he decided to suddenly start his true push into politics, fittingly based on a joke of a lie that wouldn't die.

So either he's an opportunistic businessman, a liberal who just didn't like Obama and decided to switch parties in his mid-60's (not unheard of, but its usually actual politicians who do that), or some oddball combo of the two.

 

[dogslobber]

What?? We manufacture microprocessors, jet engines, commercial and military aircraft and high end medical equipment here in the US. And you think we couldn't manufacture a phone> Ok got it.
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EXACTLY - someone with some fact based argument without emotion.

There was another problem with Obama's executive order - not only did it unconstitutionally formalize non-enforcement of existing law (ie. his duty as President) --- it created a whole class of immigrants that are not identified anywhere in statute. On that alone its unconstitutional and unsustainable.

An issue like this can only be addressed (or not addressed) by Congress. That is their Constitutional power. Plain and simple.

No. Obama’s Executive Order was entirely legal and DACA recipients are legal right now.

 

[cgsnipinva]

It's well known he was a NYC for a long time, and all if you have to do is go to Youtube to watch past interviews of him to know most of his social stances were highly liberal/centrist. It wasn't until Obama became president that he decided to suddenly start his true push into politics, fittingly based on a joke of a lie that wouldn't die.

So either he's an opportunistic businessman, a liberal who just didn't like Obama and decided to switch parties in his mid-60's (not unheard of, but its usually actual politicians who do that), or some oddball combo of the two.

Or he could have evolved --- like Reagan did when he realized the Democratic party was leaving the bulk of America behind.

Or Obama ---- who was pro-life and anti-gay marriage before it became convenient.
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No. Obama’s Executive Order was entirely legal and DACA recipients are legal right now.

Nope -- an executive order CANNOT change or modify law -- the DACA did exactly that - creating a whole new class of immigrants not defined in law --- that is beyond the power of the executive under the Constitution. Even liberal legal scholars said it wouldnt stand up in the SC or in most federal appellate courts.

It was actually halted by one federal judge.

https://www.theatlantic.com/busines...ft-an-undocumented-workforce-in-limbo/488747/

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/23/politics/immigration-supreme-court/index.html

http://www.politifact.com/florida/s...l-judge-called-obama-immigration-action-unco/

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A recent Texas federal court decision has given congressional Republicans new hope that they can stop President Barack Obama’s executive action to delay the deportation of some illegal immigrants.

Here’s how U.S. Rep. David Jolly, a Florida Republican, put it Feb. 26, 2015, during House floor debate:

"I understand there's disagreement over the president's executive order last September. I think it was wrong. Members on the other side don't," Jolly said. "A federal judge has said it's unconstitutional. The president of the United States said over 20 times he didn't have the authority to do it, and yet he did it."

Jolly was talking as Congress was wrestling with a proposal to defund Obama’s execution action as part of a larger proposal to fund the Department of Homeland Security. House Republicans eventually passed a bill funding the homeland security agency without the immigration rider.

What caught our attention was the claim that a federal judge labeled Obama’s action "unconstitutional.""

Obama's sole justification -- in his own words -- was prosecutorial discretion which most legal scholars considered bunk as you cannot enact prosecutorial discretion on a whole class of offendors - only on a case by case basis. Additionally - this is something usually reserved for prosecuting attorney's not the President.

 

[deeddawg]

No. Obama’s Executive Order was entirely legal and DACA recipients are legal right now.

What do you mean by "legal"? What do you think it means?

Most folks would consider it meaning as being in accordance to the law. If DACA recipients are "legal", then why would anyone be worried?

 

[0388631]

So what has he done wrong as a private citizen? And provide something real not made up by a bias-press that has been caught multiple times in out right fabrications? Do we also judge Bill Clinton by the fact he was a serial adulterer and had multiple claims of rape against him? Are you going to rail against him on that?

Sure, why not? Why should Bill get a pass?

Do you really have to ask what Trump's done? Really?

1. Creating a Muslim database to track all Muslims. You know who did something similar? The Nazis with Jews. They used IBM punch cards to track them.

2. Suggesting using the US military to imitate warcrimes.

3. Choosing the worst people for positions.

a. Betsy DeVos
b. DeVry Fraudster to lead the higher education fraud department at the DoE
c. Scott Pruitt

There's more. A lot more. None of these people are qualified to lead their positions.

4. Slandered a Gold Star Family. Yet, most Americans, Americans who have respect for the military, didn't give a damn. Probably because that family was Muslim. Who knows?

5. Lambasted a disabled reporter.

6. "Grab 'em by the *****" and "I moved on her like a bitch."

7. Told supporters to beat up protesters at rallies.

8. Stated women should be punished for having abortions.

a. Took him over two months to go back to his comments and retract them.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-punishment-for-women-who-have-procedure.html

9. Muslim ban on countries that don't contribute much to US terrorism. Why was Saudi Arabia and Pakistan not in the ban? These two countries have caused more US deaths than the rest put together. The Saudis also fund terrorism targeting Westerners.

10. Suggests we default on our loans. Solid businessman skills there. LOL

11. Brushed off white supremacy. Not surprising since his father was a full fledged KKK member.

12. Slandered all Mexicans, regardless of whether or not they were legal. Murderers and rapists were his chosen words.

13. Endorsing torture of prisoners in wartime or otherwise.

14. Repeatedly insulted McCain. Hardly Presidential. The guy is a draft dodger, yet he has the nerve to complain about people who DID serve. People who were also POWs and endured torture for years before being released.

15. Says and retweets bogus facts. Not necessarily awful, but plain old stupid.

16. Spent years bullying Barry and now whinges about being bullied.

17. Hardly knows the constitution.

18. Rarely pays his bills. Truly an honest man here.

19. Both praises and insults North Korea's leader.

20. Ran a scam university and threatened students who criticized the school.

21. Constantly spoke or still speaks about his penis size and his hands.

22. Wanted to use nuclear weapons. Had to be taught why we can't just use them. Anyone off the street would know why we can't use them. Not snowflake, though.

23. Ignores intelligence briefings. Gets his news from Fox and Friends....

22. His own son stated he sometimes feels suicidal. Great to have an unstable President.

23. Uses campaign money for his own personal use and his family's. Big nono.

24. Racist past going back to the early 70s.

25. Loves to dole out conspiracy theories. Such as the Clintons hiring hitmen to kill their opponents. And that's recent.

This is a slight taste as to who the people have voted in. A man-child. In any other election, a politician or someone simply running would have destroyed their chances. Is it so important to have someone who speaks their mind and destroys all decorum that was once established as the norm? Would you feel comfortable with him if he spoke like the above to your wife or your daughter or you personally? Would you still support someone so ridiculously stupid?


Guy was all for DACA a few years ago. But, like I said, support the guy if you wish. I'll wait for the next person who's running with an R next to their name. Could be satan himself, and I'd vote for him over Trump any day of the week.

 

[cgsnipinva]

Sure, why not? Why should Bill get a pass?

Do you really have to ask what Trump's done? Really?

1. Creating a Muslim database to track all Muslims. You know who did something similar? The Nazis with Jews. They used IBM punch cards to track them.

2. Suggesting using the US military to imitate warcrimes.

3. Choosing the worst people for positions.

a. Betsy DeVos
b. DeVry Fraudster to lead the higher education fraud department at the DoE
c. Scott Pruitt

There's more. A lot more. None of these people are qualified to lead their positions.

4. Slandered a Gold Star Family. Yet, most Americans, Americans who have respect for the military, didn't give a damn. Probably because that family was Muslim. Who knows?

5. Lambasted a disabled reporter.

6. "Grab 'em by the *****" and "I moved on her like a bitch."

7. Told supporters to beat up protesters at rallies.

8. Stated women should be punished for having abortions.

a. Took him over two months to go back to his comments and retract them.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-punishment-for-women-who-have-procedure.html

9. Muslim ban on countries that don't contribute much to US terrorism. Why was Saudi Arabia and Pakistan not in the ban? These two countries have caused more US deaths than the rest put together. The Saudis also fund terrorism targeting Westerners.

10. Suggests we default on our loans. Solid businessman skills there. LOL

11. Brushed off white supremacy. Not surprising since his father was a full fledged KKK member.

12. Slandered all Mexicans, regardless of whether or not they were legal. Murderers and rapists were his chosen words.

13. Endorsing torture of prisoners in wartime or otherwise.

14. Repeatedly insulted McCain. Hardly Presidential. The guy is a draft dodger, yet he has the nerve to complain about people who DID serve. People who were also POWs and endured torture for years before being released.

15. Says and retweets bogus facts. Not necessarily awful, but plain old stupid.

16. Spent years bullying Barry and now whinges about being bullied.

17. Hardly knows the constitution.

18. Rarely pays his bills. Truly an honest man here.

19. Both praises and insults North Korea's leader.

20. Ran a scam university and threatened students who criticized the school.

21. Constantly spoke or still speaks about his penis size and his hands.

22. Wanted to use nuclear weapons. Had to be taught why we can't just use them. Anyone off the street would know why we can't use them. Not snowflake, though.

23. Ignores intelligence briefings. Gets his news from Fox and Friends....

22. His own son stated he sometimes feels suicidal. Great to have an unstable President.

23. Uses campaign money for his own personal use and his family's. Big nono.

24. Racist past going back to the early 70s.

25. Loves to dole out conspiracy theories. Such as the Clintons hiring hitmen to kill their opponents. And that's recent.

This is a slight taste as to who the people have voted in. A man-child. In any other election, a politician or someone simply running would have destroyed their chances. Is it so important to have someone who speaks their mind and destroys all decorum that was once established as the norm? Would you feel comfortable with him if he spoke like the above to your wife or your daughter or you personally? Would you still support someone so ridiculously stupid?

All of those sound like your opinion as opposed to facts. Your credibility is now nil. You have a biased axe to grind. Sharpen it on a tree please.

 

[mytdave]

And once again, the problem with liberalism/progressivism... Technically, Tim, your hiring of undocumented workers is illegal (unless they're technically covered (permit) under Obozo's dodge of immigration law (DACA)). Also, technically, Apple should get into serious legal trouble for doing so (if they're not permitted). You're not above the law Tim.

Whether we change the law to help "Dreamers" is another matter. As it currently stands though, they are here illegally. I am not against working something out, legally, for "Dreamers" as it was not their fault they were brought here, but we are a nation of laws, and therefore it has to be done properly.

 

[0388631]

All of those sound like your opinion as opposed to facts. Your credibility is now nil. You have a biased axe to grind. Sharpen it on a tree please.

How is it opinion when there were news stories in the press? Are you unaware or are you simply trying to get a rise out of me by trolling in the hopes I get suspended? Because that's what it seems like.

If it is, you're really bad at this. Feel free to come back to reality when it suits you.

 

[Rocketman]

I've thought about this, and I think a few things need to happen here.

1. The people/"dreamers" who are here now should be allowed to stay and should become full US citizens. Anything else would be unfair.
2. Policy needs to be enacted to prevent this situation from happening again the the future. While we do need to document who is coming in to the country, it's also crappy to let people get themselves into this kind of a situation.
3. Every CEO who just admitted that they have actively employed undocumented citizens needs to have a multi-year tax punishment leveled against them. Squeeze them and make them hurt.

#3 is interesting. That would pay for some of the undocumented usage of public services so would be "fair".

Reagan did a general amnesty resetting the clock for immigrants as of that date more than 30 years ago. If we get both a tax bill and an immigration bill in the next year or two, Reagan's legacy will live on. Reagan and Trump are both former D turned R to become President and have a very successful legislative record (whether you agree with it or not).

 

[GermanSuplex]

All of those sound like your opinion as opposed to facts. Your credibility is now nil. You have a biased axe to grind. Sharpen it on a tree please.

The vast majority of those are facts, not opinions. You heard the access Hollywood tape. You can go on Youtube and watch him and Marco Rubio debate their "hand size". Most of his Tweets and re-Tweets regarding news come from Fox - or worse. He has repeatedly insulted people he disagrees with by calling them names, and still does. If you're okay with that stuff, that's fine, but most are certainly not opinions.

I'm much more apt to believe some actually like that behavior - which at least is honest - as opposed to those who pretend it didn't happen.

 

[0388631]

Reagan had his own issues, but let's not kid ourselves. Trump wishes to aspire and be like Reagan. It isn't going to happen. Can't polish crap.

After Regan took on the Evangelicals and other religious groups who influenced American policy as well as trickle down, I lost some respect for the guy. However, let's not taint his memory by comparing him to Trump.