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Are you serious? Like do you honestly not have a clue about world history or something? There is a distinct difference between moving into an unsettled & ungoverned land and sneaking into an established country with laws and government.
It seems the only difference is how many guns the settled people have, and how many the newcomers have. At some point the newcomers had more guns, today they don't.
 
Are you serious? Like do you honestly not have a clue about world history or something? There is a distinct difference between moving into an unsettled & ungoverned land and sneaking into an established country with laws and government.

"sneaking into an established country with laws and government"

The 1848 Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo ended the war and specified its major consequence: the Mexican Cession of the territories of Alta California and Santa Fe de Nuevo México to the United States. The U.S. agreed to pay $15 million compensation for the physical damage of the war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican–American_War
 
Thanks to Tim Cook for standing up to tyranny. No, you can't deport 250 Apple employees!

How does deporting 250 Apple employees make America great again?

If TC knew this, and knowing DACA is not a permanent solution, I am surprised Apple did not have an internal resource that would help make these folks "Legal Immigrants" .
 
I'll say this right at the onset: Tim Cook needs to give his left liberal political pandering since November 2016 a bloody effing break. I'm an immigrant from India myself, I currently work for Apple from Germany, I have family in the USA, and before Tim blindly starts defending Dreamers, he needs to read this: https://cis.org/Mortensen/DACA-Gran...mitting-Crimes-While-Abandoning-Their-Victims.

I support some of President Trump's policies and I believe that DACA should be reformulated from the ground up instead of being nullified.

Having said that, Tim Cook of late hasn't ceased downright disgusting me. We get it that Tim is a die-hard Hillary Clinton fan but he just can't seem to be able to keep his head out of politics.

KKK, Nazis, white supremacsists are vile, demented creatures—there's no defending ANYTHING they stand for. But where are Cook's Twitter condemnations and fundraising against rabidly hateful and intolerant leftist groups like Antifa, who (quite literally!) burn down every single free speech rally at college campuses without a single consequence?

What happens to his voice when Islamists openly urge for a Jewish genocide in America in the name of "freeing Palestine"?!

Where is this coward when cop-killing BLM groups conduct riots, vandalize local businesses, loot, destroy for months in a row during the 2-term presidency of a black man!?

In which hole in the ground does Tim Cook hide when rabid feminists take the stage—physically or on mainstream media—and demand the systematic suffering of men, especially white males in America?

As a brown man that has seen plenty of these pseudoliberals in my own country, there's nothing worse than a duplicitous, hypocritical COWARD with connections to influence, and tons of cash to spend toward their own agenda.

Tim, take your private jet and come see the state of Germany after it took in 3 million undocumented immigrants. Roam around Düsseldorf for a while, then take a flight to Paris and then drop in at Rome after that. Maybe what you will witness will help you SHUT your mouth and have you consider focusing on your goddam job again.

Ah. The ole all false equivalency argument. So tired.
 
Anyone actually look take a good look at Tim Cook's face in that photo? It's hilarious. Yeah....

Tim Cook: NOEP.

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Ending DACA will send children and young adults who were BORN IN THE UNITED STATES back to countries where they do not speak the language, do not understand the culture, and will probably be exploited (and potentially killed) by gangs who prey on the recently deported.

Great job, 45*.
 
Unsettled and Ungoverned? Native Americans beg to differ!
Says the white guy ready to kill the natives in this "unsettled $ ungoverned" land.

If you look from the perspective of the Native Americans, the uncivilized $ unsettled people were the white folks.


Every one will agree that the civilization that has settled in this land before the white barbarians arrived was self governed, and most definitely had no need for the white guy to come and kill them, put them in camps, discriminate them, and take their land and way of life away from them.
No group on conquered people ever "asked" for it. It has happened for centuries across continents. That's not the point here, the point is there is no comparison between Europeans coming to North America and illegally entering the US today. Those attempted comparisons are just oversimplified and silly.
 
Tim, take your private jet and come see the state of Germany after it took in 3 million undocumented immigrants. Roam around Düsseldorf for a while, then take a flight to Paris and then drop in at Rome after that. Maybe what you will witness will help you SHUT your mouth and have you consider focusing on your goddam job again.

what you are saying is not true, there aren't many immigrants in Germany, they mostly are in Italy and every other country in Europa, Germany does not have many immigrants, they left them to other countries for the most part.

Germany had many immigrants in the past, from turkey since 1960 and as it always was and always will be:
immigrants are very good for the economy, like it or not.
 
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I'll say this right at the onset: Tim Cook needs to give his left liberal political pandering since November 2016 a bloody effing break. I'm an immigrant from India myself, I currently work for Apple from Germany, I have family in the USA, and before Tim blindly starts defending Dreamers, he needs to read this: https://cis.org/Mortensen/DACA-Gran...mitting-Crimes-While-Abandoning-Their-Victims.

I support some of President Trump's policies and I believe that DACA should be reformulated from the ground up instead of being nullified.

Having said that, Tim Cook of late hasn't ceased downright disgusting me. We get it that Tim is a die-hard Hillary Clinton fan but he just can't seem to be able to keep his head out of politics.

KKK, Nazis, white supremacsists are vile, demented creatures—there's no defending ANYTHING they stand for. But where are Cook's Twitter condemnations and fundraising against rabidly hateful and intolerant leftist groups like Antifa, who (quite literally!) burn down every single free speech rally at college campuses without a single consequence?

What happens to his voice when Islamists openly urge for a Jewish genocide in America in the name of "freeing Palestine"?!

Where is this coward when cop-killing BLM groups conduct riots, vandalize local businesses, loot, destroy for months in a row during the 2-term presidency of a black man!?

In which hole in the ground does Tim Cook hide when rabid feminists take the stage—physically or on mainstream media—and demand the systematic suffering of men, especially white males in America?

As a brown man that has seen plenty of these pseudoliberals in my own country, there's nothing worse than a duplicitous, hypocritical COWARD with connections to influence, and tons of cash to spend toward their own agenda.

Tim, take your private jet and come see the state of Germany after it took in 3 million undocumented immigrants. Roam around Düsseldorf for a while, then take a flight to Paris and then drop in at Rome after that. Maybe what you will witness will help you SHUT your mouth and have you consider focusing on your goddam job again.

How the **** does any of the stuff against the left you're talking about have anything to do with Apple? Tim Cook is simply offering his opinion based on knowledge from the employees within his company who are clearly hardworking, high-earning individuals.

Also using the 'Center for Immigration Studies' as a source is about as biased as you're going to get. It's entire purpose is to hate on immigrants. And it's easy to find a study that completely refutes it: https://dreamers.fwd.us/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/20170823-DACA-Job-Loss-Report.pdf
 
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No group on conquered people ever "asked" for it. It has happened for centuries across continents. That's not the point here, the point is there is no comparison between Europeans coming to North America and illegally entering the US today. Those attempted comparisons are just oversimplified and silly.

You're right, invading a people's land and committing genocide is much worse.

Oh, and the other major difference of course is that we'll happily forgive ourselves for the actions of our ancestors but won't extend that same kindness to the children of illegal immigrants.
 
American citizens come before dreamers. If they want jobs here, they need to be naturalized. I Support President Trump

Talent comes before citizenship.

If an illegal can do the job better than an American citizen, then the illegal deserves the job instead of the American citizen.

We live in a globalist world now. Your citizenship doesn't matter. You will have to shape up or ship out.
 
I'll say this right at the onset: Tim Cook needs to give his left liberal political pandering since November 2016 a bloody effing break. I'm an immigrant from India myself, I currently work for Apple from Germany, I have family in the USA, and before Tim blindly starts defending Dreamers, he needs to read this: https://cis.org/Mortensen/DACA-Gran...mitting-Crimes-While-Abandoning-Their-Victims.

I support some of President Trump's policies and I believe that DACA should be reformulated from the ground up instead of being nullified.

Having said that, Tim Cook of late hasn't ceased downright disgusting me. We get it that Tim is a die-hard Hillary Clinton fan but he just can't seem to be able to keep his head out of politics.

KKK, Nazis, white supremacsists are vile, demented creatures—there's no defending ANYTHING they stand for. But where are Cook's Twitter condemnations and fundraising against rabidly hateful and intolerant leftist groups like Antifa, who (quite literally!) burn down every single free speech rally at college campuses without a single consequence?

What happens to his voice when Islamists openly urge for a Jewish genocide in America in the name of "freeing Palestine"?!

Where is this coward when cop-killing BLM groups conduct riots, vandalize local businesses, loot, destroy for months in a row during the 2-term presidency of a black man!?

In which hole in the ground does Tim Cook hide when rabid feminists take the stage—physically or on mainstream media—and demand the systematic suffering of men, especially white males in America?

As a brown man that has seen plenty of these pseudoliberals in my own country, there's nothing worse than a duplicitous, hypocritical COWARD with connections to influence, and tons of cash to spend toward their own agenda.

Tim, take your private jet and come see the state of Germany after it took in 3 million undocumented immigrants. Roam around Düsseldorf for a while, then take a flight to Paris and then drop in at Rome after that. Maybe what you will witness will help you SHUT your mouth and have you consider focusing on your goddam job again.


You are talking BS. I'm from Germany and nothing has changed, besides the fear that has grown in everyones mind. And people like you are putting fuel into this Fire.

Also, there is no "the Antifa". It's like Anonymous. And the mindset of people living in a democratic state should be "antifascitic", because fashism is the opposite of democracy.
 
Uhhhh, NO.

They are immigrants. But not illegal. Although I have a feeling you knew that but just wanted to stir the pot a little.

There was no centralized government setting immigration laws when Europeans etc first came over. Many of us are the descendants of LEGAL immigrants that followed the laws set forth by the government at the time (whether they were more or less strict than today is another conversation) and did whatever it took to be here legally.

Including people like me whose family came here LEGALLY from countries like Syria that are in the news so much these days.

Do an internet search (I recommend Google) for "united states native american reparations", without the quotation marks.
 
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Actually 2 million according to macrumors, and this DACA change would effect exactly 0.01% of those employees. You're literally proving my point.

Get business money out of politics.
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No you missed the point. The reason he has been speaking out on social issues is because of the massive number of people he employs that these issues affect. Now whether Cook genuinely cares or is just doing it for Apple's image is debatable, but I agree with him and support him, even if it's only 0.01% of them that this particular issue affects. I have empathy and compassion. It seems there is a lack of that coming from the right. At least as far as minorities are concerned.
 
Talent comes before citizenship.

If an illegal can do the job better than an American citizen, then the illegal deserves the job instead of the American citizen.

We live in a globalist world now. Your citizenship doesn't matter. You will have to shape up or ship out.

And you are the problem in this country. The US is based on this thing called "rule of law".

It's one of the very things why illegal immigrants leave the dysfunctional backwaters they're trying to escape from by breaking a host of laws. Talent does NOT come before the law in business.

I would hate to work for or with someone like you that has such low business ethics.
 
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Talent comes before citizenship.

If an illegal can do the job better than an American citizen, then the illegal deserves the job instead of the American citizen.

We live in a globalist world now. Your citizenship doesn't matter. You will have to shape up or ship out.

We were so close to that nightmare and losing our country forever. Then Hillary lost. LMAO.

MAGA.
 
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