Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Why? because they practice bad science!

http://www.geekwire.com/2014/re-consumer-reports-iphone-bending-pencils/

Their pencil demonstration was bas science and not testing phones at their weakest part is bad science as well. The only part of their video that may be accurate are the bend forces in the middle of the devices.

Did you even read the article? Your conclusion that the phone test was invalidated by the pencil example is contradicted by the author of your link.
 
Just me... but if just sitting with the phone in your front pocket could bend it....someone would have a youtube video of showing how many times and how tight the pants need to be..to bend the phone...

Or whatever...everyday way it happens.

New phone out of box..... clocks/timers in the back ground.... no edits.... do everyday things... and wait for it to bend...

Costs you Zero.... because if it doesn't bend.... then life is good.... if it does bend.... hits hits hits..
 
Why? because they practice bad science!

http://www.geekwire.com/2014/re-consumer-reports-iphone-bending-pencils/

Their pencil demonstration was bas science and not testing phones at their weakest part is bad science as well. The only part of their video that may be accurate are the bend forces in the middle of the devices.

It doesn't take a genius to notice that in the consumer reports stress test the iPhone 6 bent and broke exactly in the weak spot and not in the middle.
So their test was absolutely accurate.
CRO_Electronics_Bent_White_iPhone_09-14.png


The real question is: did you read the article at all?
And in the same way, did you read the article YOU posted? Its conclusions are that to bend an iPhone you have to SIT ON IT, which is a very clever move to do....
 
I am still trying to figure out what it takes to bend one of these critters. I have the 6+. I keep an Apple leather case on it, but I have had my daughter sit on my leg while it was in my pocket (She is about 65 lbs), I keep it in my pocket nearly all the time, getting up and down constantly. No I don't have skinny jeans, as someone who is 6'4", 290lbs just doesnt do those sort of clothes. I've also dropped it from about 4 feet onto concrete with no ill effects except for a scratch on the leather case.
 
Did you even read the article? Your conclusion that the phone test was invalidated by the pencil example is contradicted by the author of your link.

I never said it was invalid for the way the tested it. A better test would have been to test the phone at it weakest point?

Did you read or watch the video about how they DID misrepresent the pencil test? That makes me questions there competence in setting up a test with better data.


Do you know where the weakest point is on the iphone 6? you have probably seen pictures of many bent iPhone 6's, so tell me where the the iPhones are bending?

Are they bending in the middle?

If they are not, why would you put the force where they are not bending?
 
I never said it was invalid for the way the tested it. A better test would have been to test the phone at it weakest point?

Did you read or watch the video about how they DID misrepresent the pencil test? That makes me questions there competence in setting up a test with better data.


Do you know where the weakest point is on the iphone 6? you have probably seen pictures of many bent iPhone 6's, so tell me where the the iPhones are bending?

Are they bending in the middle?

If they are not, why would you put the force where they are not bending?

I'm still at a loss to understand why your methodology would be better.
 
It doesn't take a genius to notice that in the consumer reports stress test the iPhone 6 bent and broke exactly in the weak spot and not in the middle.
So their test was absolutely accurate.
Image

The real question is: did you read the article at all?
And in the same way, did you read the article YOU posted? Its conclusions are that to bend an iPhone you have to SIT ON IT, which is a very clever move to do....

Well in that case everyone who did not sit on their iPhone must have a defective phone which would be the case in most of these threads.
 
I'm still at a loss to understand why your methodology would be better.

Because it will take less that 70/90 lbs to bend the IPhone at its weakest spot. Just like 4 pencil will bend with less force in there weakest configuration.

I know you know the answer you are just pretending to not know.

Can you explain why 2 GB of ram has improved the Safari reload issue dramatically. You said that they would behave exactly the same?

You see its common sense which you lack.

Before you will move the goal post again. If bad programming was the cause, would have no bearing if apple did not fix the issue for an entire year. That FACT is, more RAM helped which you said it would not.
 
Last edited:
Well in that case everyone who did not sit on their iPhone must have a defective phone which would be the case in most of these threads.

Our just bent it without realizing, which would be the case in most of these threads....
 
I don't understand what's so difficult to understand.

The phone bends itself.

If we take two conditions that we all agree on: empty aluminum unibody at rest does does not want to flex, and gorilla glass neither, the answer is simple.

The internal hardware that is secured to the aluminum unibody introduces torsional stress into the phone. Over time, this manifests itself into a bend, as the stress of how the internal hardware is affixed to the phone forces it into a preferred state to relieve the torsional pressure.

There is inherent energy in the phone that makes it want to bend. This could be as simple as a single screw point that was affixed using an uncalibrated amount of torque.

Of course if we even take that in its resting state the phone wants to bend, it probably shouldn't. However something so simple as a tap, small drop, hit, etc could momentarily degrades the phones integrity that it will thus begin to bend.

Stop being shills.

The evidence is clear that the phone wants to bend itself to relieve the torsional pressure that exists in the phone.
 
I don't understand what's so difficult to understand.

The phone bends itself.

If we take two conditions that we all agree on: empty aluminum unibody at rest does does not want to flex, and gorilla glass neither, the answer is simple.

The internal hardware that is secured to the aluminum unibody introduces torsional stress into the phone. Over time, this manifests itself into a bend, as the stress of how the internal hardware is affixed to the phone forces it into a preferred state to relieve the torsional pressure.

There is inherent energy in the phone that makes it want to bend. This could be as simple as a single screw point that was affixed using an uncalibrated amount of torque.

Of course if we even take that in its resting state the phone wants to bend, it probably shouldn't. However something so simple as a tap, small drop, hit, etc could momentarily degrades the phones integrity that it will thus begin to bend.

Stop being shills.

The evidence is clear that the phone wants to bend itself to relieve the torsional pressure that exists in the phone.
Ok, now back to the alien invasion theory.... :rolleyes:
 
Because it will take less that 70/90 lbs to bend the IPhone at its weakest spot. Just like 4 pencil will bend with less force in there weakest configuration.

I know you know the answer you are just pretending to not know.

Can you explain why 2 GB of ram has improved the Safari reload issue dramatically. You said that they would behave exactly the same?

You see its common sense which you lack.

Before you will move the goal post again. If bad programming was the cause, would have no bearing if apple did not fix the issue for an entire year. That FACT is, more RAM helped which you said it would not.

I'm not pretending anything. The CS report postulated 70 lbs to deform the case at the weak point and that number was subsequently confirmed by other sources testing the phone at the weak point itself. There was nothing wrong with the CS methodology.

----------

I don't understand what's so difficult to understand.

The phone bends itself.

If we take two conditions that we all agree on: empty aluminum unibody at rest does does not want to flex, and gorilla glass neither, the answer is simple.

The internal hardware that is secured to the aluminum unibody introduces torsional stress into the phone. Over time, this manifests itself into a bend, as the stress of how the internal hardware is affixed to the phone forces it into a preferred state to relieve the torsional pressure.

There is inherent energy in the phone that makes it want to bend. This could be as simple as a single screw point that was affixed using an uncalibrated amount of torque.

Of course if we even take that in its resting state the phone wants to bend, it probably shouldn't. However something so simple as a tap, small drop, hit, etc could momentarily degrades the phones integrity that it will thus begin to bend.

Stop being shills.

The evidence is clear that the phone wants to bend itself to relieve the torsional pressure that exists in the phone.

One assumes this is satire.
 
The evidence is clear that the phone wants to bend itself

Exactly!

The phone is bending itself!!

This is why there are millions of phones that have bent.

I went to the Apple Store to check out the new iPad and the line for bent phone returns was about 3,000 people. And this was at 10 in the morning!

/rolls eyes.
 
Why? because they practice bad science!

http://www.geekwire.com/2014/re-consumer-reports-iphone-bending-pencils/

Their pencil demonstration was bas science and not testing phones at their weakest part is bad science as well. The only part of their video that may be accurate are the bend forces in the middle of the devices.


Think for a minute.
Just a minute.

Do you think that all the people who claim the phone bent by themselves under normal usage are all putting pressure in the exact weak point of the phone when they put it in their pocket or in their gym bag?

Where exactly is the lever point when someone puts in their pocket and it starts to bend? At the exact point of the buttons?

Just think.

Think Different.
 
Think for a minute.
Just a minute.

Do you think that all the people who claim the phone bent by themselves under normal usage are all putting pressure in the exact weak point of the phone when they put it in their pocket or in their gym bag?

Where exactly is the lever point when someone puts in their pocket and it starts to bend? At the exact point of the buttons?

Just think.

Think Different.

How would we know? With very few exceptions the answer to any questions about these bends is "I bent it in 'normal use.' Why are you interrogating me, Apple apologist??"

----------

I know more than to approach every bend thread with

"OK, how did you bend it"

So, you "know" enough not to question what happened? You "know" enough to assume that asking what might have happened is an accusation, not an attempt to figure out, you know, what might have happened? Doesn't seem like you "know" as much as you think you do, actually...
 
Why? because they practice bad science!

http://www.geekwire.com/2014/re-consumer-reports-iphone-bending-pencils/

Their pencil demonstration was bas science and not testing phones at their weakest part is bad science as well. The only part of their video that may be accurate are the bend forces in the middle of the devices.

Lads, it has been already tested at weak spot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X0Xglp1IJQ

You could see both iphones are bending just under 10 kg (23 lbs) stress.

After this test Bild was banned from apple events.

It looks like you should put iphone in a pocket heads down to minimize stress of the weak point.
 
Last edited:
The most likely internal stress inside this device would be the expansion and contraction due to heat. If there were a design issue many more devices should be showing problems. Maybe it has to under go many cycles of this to weaken it to bend? Theres been some reports of overheating but they are just a few. Time will tell if this the case.
 
The most likely internal stress inside this device would be the expansion and contraction due to heat. If there were a design issue many more devices should be showing problems. Maybe it has to under go many cycles of this to weaken it to bend? Theres been some reports of overheating but they are just a few. Time will tell if this the case.
Exactly, that's called material fatigue - you could stress your iphone 6 many times with moderate force (10 kg) but eventually material will fatigue and you could have a bend.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.