I don’t think it’ll be happening at all.Could be happening sooner than we think.
Apple Developing 'Enhanced' Under-Display Touch ID System
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Touch ID Not Returning With iPhone 13, Despite Apple Testing Under-Screen Sensor
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All companies are trying to get it working and Apple are also working on it and likely have been for years. Doesn’t mean the tech is ready for the mass market.
Cameras are very good but they can always get better and with far bigger sensors cameras should be a good improvement this year.
Most normal users who upgrade for the pro phones camera is a big focus to upgrade. What else do phones really need these days? 120hz sure which we have this year but other areas the tech is just not ready.
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If they add a touch sensor, it will be to check your fingerprints against some csam like database every time you unlock your phone. Ahh yeah and they also got a 3d face scanning camera in there too. Wonder when they will use that to scan people faces and match them up to a list of dissent provided by the gouvernment.
I just hope i dont give them ideas
I just hope i dont give them ideas
I still don't understand why people want a step backwards. Face ID is superior and successor to Touch ID, and Face ID has replaced Touch ID on all the newer/higher end models. Why bring an inferior thing back? I've been using Face ID for years and never missed Touch ID and frankly don't understand why people want Touch ID in addition to Face ID. Sure it's sometimes a very minor inconvenience with this whole mask thing (which is getting over soon anyway) but that's it. Which DOES have a solution: if you are really concerned with wearing a mask AND having a convenient way to unlock your phone, get Apple Watch. Or don't get it and either just briefly uncover your face for a second when unlocking or use passcode. There are literally three options here.
The Apple Watch unlock still does not work for app authentication and payments. While the inconvenience factor seems insignificant to you, at least I need to type in my passcode like an animal all too often due to FaceID failing with masks and the Apple Watch unlock not covering the specific app. Having both methods available would be a flexible improvement.
Which is still Face ID, just going under the display. I thought it was something more advanced (Palm or Vein or something else).
Not saying Face ID is bad. No. But trashing Touch ID is not the way to promote Face ID imo.
Try the same while using iPad. Or maybe you dont have one? Good.
I have one and use one every day and no idea why iPad does not support Apple Watch unlock.
Tbh only Apple cares as much about their strategic view as their bottom line imo but that’s irrelevant, neither my opinion on that.
Face ID seems to be mathematically better than Touch ID since Face ID captures more data points. However, neither is flawless. The whole idea of “going backward” is just weird. It’s not the same thing as storage media evolution where successor is superior in every way except maybe niche “backwards compatibility”.
I guess that’s next year’s new feature, unless Apple thinks the A16 and the notch removal will be enough to entice people to upgrade.
I’m not trashing Touch ID, it had its time and place before we got better technology.
I still don't get why people say, "Waaa...I don't want TouchID! FaceID is so much better and stuff!". Fine, then don't activate the TouchID and keep using FaceID. In this day and age of masks, it sure would be nice to have the OPTION of using TouchID.
I have the Apple Watch and it is nice to finally unlock the phone using it while wearing a mask. But I still prefer the convenience of Apple Pay using TouchID more. But alas, looks like it won't be on this year's phone.
Not a dealbreaker for me, but I did hope it would be an option on this upcoming iPhone release.
I have the Apple Watch and it is nice to finally unlock the phone using it while wearing a mask. But I still prefer the convenience of Apple Pay using TouchID more. But alas, looks like it won't be on this year's phone.
Not a dealbreaker for me, but I did hope it would be an option on this upcoming iPhone release.
It’s because Face ID is more secure that apple won’t reintroduce Touch ID on devices that have Face ID.
Exactly. I've been upgrading the iPhone year over year since 3GS. Will break this loop this year if no Touch ID. It's brought so much inconvenience EVERYTIME trying to unlock the phone numerous times EVERY SINGLE DAY and I'm not happy. When I'm not happy, I'm not buying. Simple.
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Better tech is whatever best fits the need of the users and how they use devices. Better tech is giving options to different users with different needs.
Some countries have upgraded their elections from voting machines to pencil and paper, because it is better tech. Better tech is not the newest or most impressive, it is whatever lets you best achieve a desired objective.
The strange thing is it seems most people who care about under-display TouchID are those who also say they would never use TouchID and how great FaceID is [for them]. Those of us for whom TouchID suits how we use our devices do not care where the sensor is.
I have an Android phone which has a sensor on the back. It is not glamorous, it means cases need a hole to access it, but it works. It is located in the area my finger will naturally be when holding it. Not the best design, but very good tech. Putting it on a button would be much better design, and still very good tech.
And as for security, can you still have the option of not using a passcode to unlock? But an iPhone is not an airgap device, it is always connected and used in public. Using one is a conscious decision to put some security at risk, better tech is not the most secure, it is that which best balances usability and security. And that again comes down to user choice.
Have it turned off by default, show a warning when enabling it that "Apple recommends FaceID as a more secure unlocking method," if they must. But it still offers a good enough level of protection that it is not unacceptable to use, that Apple still use it on various products.
For most ordinary users the biggest risk is the phone being grabbed rather than someone stealing their fingerprint so they can sneak into the office at night where the iPhone is left on a desk, hide under the desk when the security guard points a torch in their direction, before attaching a flash drive to download a set of documents that will take three minutes, during which the owner unexpectedly walks into the office before suddenly being called away again just as the download completes.
Other people like FaceID, they want more security, it works for them, it fits well with how they use their phone? Then good for them, nobody has said they should be denied any of that. It is very weird though that some of them are saying those for whom it does not work well, who do not need the extra security, that find it an inconvenience to use, should be denied the opportunity to use an iPhone they way that suits them. That is bad tech.
Put it in the power button until under screen technology matures then, unless Apple considers the iPad air implementation is a failure.
I betcha most normal users upgrade to the Pro Max mostly for the screen size.
But if you're comparing The pro 6.1 to the normal 6.1, camera comes into the equation, but that wasn't the situation mentioned.
I would be shocked if more than 10 percent of normal users upgraded to a new phone for the camera. In fact I'd even go as low as 5 percent.
There is an iPhone SE with a FaceID, bigger screen, wider contrast ratio, better camera, optical zoom, larger battery, and 5G, amongst other features? Cool, where can we buy it?
There isn’t. You need to decide whether those things or Touch ID is more important, and buy accordingly.
I have an iPad. My previous one was Touch ID, current one is Face ID. Yeah, Apple Watch doesn't connect to iPad directly so it doesn't work to unlock (but of course I'd love to see Apple Watch being able to at least in a limited way to communicate with iPad to unlock too). Many people unlock their iPhone much, much more than they do unlock their iPad in daily life anyway, so I also understand iPhone being in focus here.