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This has turned the blue check mark from “this is the legitamite person or organization” to, “Look, here’s a clown who gives $144 per year to qElon just so they can get some pixels next to their face."

The scheme will probably work because organizations and branded people need the Blue mark for account legitimacy. And this will add up to a ton of money for qElon. But for individuals, you’re a clown if you pay for this.

What are you rambling on about.

+ before these changes only certain “people” had this legitimate stature. This was unfair. As simple as that. It isn’t really hard to understand. Now anyone can be verified as a real human being. Just paying money won’t get you verified. More verified people on ANY platform is a good thing.

+ Paying 8 bucks will get your MORE features. It isn’t any different to paying for any service online. You don’t just pay to get an icon next to your name. So please stop repeating this non sense about icons.

+ why would one want to PAY to post online? I don’t know man. Why would you subscribe and pay monthly to Tweetbot? Tweetbot does exactly this. Twitter like any piece of software, isn’t a charity. You can pay to do certain things and use it for free to do others.

+ the fact that you use the word “branded people” means you don’t use Twitter and don’t really get why these changes are happening.
 
I have nothing for or against Twitter, but I’ll be glad if it goes into the background and out of the news cycle. Social Media and the internet are incredible tools, but we are definitely the lab rats. This level of engagement and stimuli is brand new and accelerating at an incredible pace. The human mind wasn’t meant for this level of instant gratification and options. It’s like the opposite of being in solitary confinement.

Anyways, it’s hard for me to tell how brilliant or not Musk is, and whether this is a legitimate feeling-out process for him, is it all show, some combo of both…

He’s a billionaire and I’m not, so maybe this is some brilliant strategy. Or maybe he doesn’t care at all. Who the hell knows.
 
You can subscribe to Spotify via the app? I tried to do it the other day and it just directed me to the browser.
LOL Spotify oh sure the company that doesn't like Japanese users. and still, spam us with ads with only 15 hours of ads-filled free service. they are the worse.
 
People whose jobs reply on Twitter will pay as a business expense no problem, I just don’t think there are enough of them for Elon’s investors to get their money back.
 
With the personal attacks and lies Qelon is doing every day the whole thing is going to fall apart and become an international laughing stock.

So here is your subscription fee Qelon

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Odd, twitter clearly was hard right, hard hard right……
it is clear as day now, the emails have been shown the light of day on all this.
they were not the truth, in any way shape or form, it was hard right propaganda, and limited free speech, based on hard right thought.

the right are now anti free speech.
man you can not make this stuff up.

I personally could care less. Do not use Twitter, never will, but it is constantly in the news. And part of life.

the hard right lost a tool used to manipulate the masses. Many posts above, show that clearly.
musk is not hard right nor left. But because he does not just blindly follow the right, gets him All the
typical comments like the ones above.

I think people really need to grow up, learn to have discourse, and remain civil.
as most independents do. The childish hard left or right is not the way forward.
it is a way of division, and only shows a person with a clear lack of self control, and critical thinking skills.

just saying
 
Love this atitude from Musk. More people need to act in this way instead of conforming and accepting things as they are. Apple wants a 30% fee? Well it can take it from its users, not from me
Pretty much every gas station does this with cash/credit, this isnt a new concept, and there’s a reason it’s not common in a lot of industries: it can sometimes backfire spectaculaly when people decide they like their marketplace over your product at the new price. People are unlikely to shift to android, or even yell at Apple, for a price increase on paying twitter to give you a checkmark.
 
And Musk spent $44 billion on that? Genius!

He's gonna need a lot of $8/month subscriptions... or about a billion more users... to cover that.

Twitter is in the ad business. The $8 is not to turn a profit, it's to get people to verify their accounts and attach a credit card for other potential payments down the road. So in the future Twitter will have PayPal-like and Amazon-like features built in and people will be able to buy with one click from trusted brands directly in Twitter, as Musk has stated.
 
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If that was the case couldn't twitter have made it $9.20 to $10.40 (15-30% markup of $8) or is there a hidden processing fee he engineered in?
Remember Apple only allows prices that end in .99, so $11 is probably actually $10.99.
 
Twitter is in the ad business. The $8 is not to turn a profit, it's to get people to verify their accounts and attach a credit card for other potential payments down the road. So in the future Twitter will have PayPal-like and Amazon-like features built in and people will be able to buy with one click from trusted brands directly in Twitter, as Musk has stated.

Well like I said... good luck to Elon.

Twitter hasn't exactly had the greatest reputation (and it's even worse now)

I can't imagine there are gonna be enough people paying a monthly fee and buying stuff for turn Twitter around.

It'll be fun to watch, that's for sure!

:p
 
For people that don't like ads in the Twitter app just use Tweetbot (costs a few bucks). Zero ads. There are a few others. The big question of course is will Elon kill third party apps.

I really don't see how anyone could use the Twitter app. I deleted it ages ago.

I actually preferred using a web browser (before I stopped Twittering sometime ago). The (official) Mac Twitter client is barf. It actually wasted a ton of space. Also I hated how when you clicked ANY video or image, the Twit client would forcibly open an image/video popup. That was stupid.

I never tried 3rd-party clients tho.

Using Safari was a sufficiently acceptable GUI / user interface.
 
This. If I’m paying $8 a month I don’t want to see any ads at all. Twitter can shove it. Same goes for any service I’m paying for.
Elmo is going to force ads on all Twitterers, free or paid. That's the only way Elmo can repay $26 billion of borrowed capital to three of the world's largest banks and the Saudi royal family.

If the Saudi Crown Prince can't get his investment money back, he might just Kashoggi Elmo. 🔪🔪🔪
 
Love this atitude from Musk. More people need to act in this way instead of conforming and accepting things as they are. Apple wants a 30% fee? Well it can take it from its users, not from me
This is fairly common - Spotify has done this for years, for example.

The only odd thing here, if any, is that Spotify does this because they have real fixed costs they have to cover in terms of media licensing. The $8 per month fee was almost certainly chosen because they didn't think people would be willing to pay more than $100/year. Yet on iOS they will be advertising $130+/year for Blue.
 
Like him or dislike him, only a fool would bet against one of the most successful businessmen of all time. Hate to disappoint, but Twitter ain't going anywhere.
Slight of hand businesses? Only Pay Pal was truly successful. The rest are a conglomeration of already existing ideas, some dating back decades, but repackaged as Musk originals. Its an embarrassment to use the name of Tesla, a great inventor. Hypertube = Vactrain (1799). EVs = 1832 (Robert Anderson). Even the battery systems are not Musk's they are Panasonic's. Where Elon has been successful is creaming idiot politicians into forcing other real manufacturers to pay Musk, and gaining billions of dollars in grants/subsidies, then going off to China to cream the same thing there. So Bernie Madoff must have been a successful businessman too?
 
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More so the paid consumers are paying the $44 billion dollar loan back Elon Musk took.
Not quite; it was a heavily leveraged buyout. In addition to 8 billion he got from other investors and 4 billion he already owned, twitter took on 13 billion in debt. My guess is the margin loan is a lot closer to $20 billion.

Twitter needs $1 bil/year just to pay off the interest on all that debt. That is 10 million people (~2% of the total active user base, including bots) upgrading to $100/year paid accounts. I don't see it happening - people are too cheap even if they do figure out some sort of major positive benefit, and people will leave if the screws are tightened such that they have to pay to play.

It is really weird, because the people who get the most value are brands, and he seems to be actively discouraging them from advertising or even keeping their twitter accounts active through verified account shenanigans, inviting back previously banned accounts, and generally not responding to (legally mandated) content moderation requirements. These brands (like Apple) are most certainly the ones he SHOULD be selling to for the best odds of getting his money back out - and I don't just mean trying to get them to pay for promoted ad placement.
 
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