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Ultrabook Manufacturers Limiting Initial Shipments in Face of MacBook Air Popularity
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I still don't understand how 1200$ is less than $1000
There are deals on the air as well. you can't compare a retail air price to a sale price for a pro.
I thought amazon had 20% off the air?
So 800 for an air or 1600$ for a pro with an ssd?
Would would someone pay double fir a pro with an ssd when they can buy an air ?
The above statement is stupid and dishonest .
I still don't understand how 1200$ is less than $1000
There are deals on the air as well. you can't compare a retail air price to a sale price for a pro.
I thought amazon had 20% off the air?
So 800 for an air or 1600$ for a pro with an ssd?
Would would someone pay double fir a pro with an ssd when they can buy an air ?
The above statement is stupid and dishonest .
Once again my friend, your sarcasm has escaped the masses.
A singular sense of humor I guess.
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Its like they are marketing to robots
RE: Bluray - Of course work around your technology's short-comings, make a feature of it on a laptop with limited space. To playback on a screen that doesn't have the resolution to show the picture natively! And what do you rip it on? Remember, Apple do not ship a computer with Bluray, because they don't want to licence the technology - real choice!
So USB 3 is missing from your MBA because of Intel? Not because Apple have decided 'it's not for you' and put a marketing spin so you think some other more expensive connector which is on nothing is better? The future is bright....
LOL, I was not talking about computers in general. I was talking about SLIM notebooks. Here is how Sony VAIO VGN-X505VP looked:
And it was in 2004. It took years for Apple to approach this form factor.
That's because you didn't READ. I was comparing the 13" base MBP to the 13" base Air.
The Amazon offer was on last year's Air--some people here were able to use the 20% off coupon with current version MBPs and MBAs.
The essential point is that the Air commands a significant price premium to even approach the capability of the base 13" MBP. As I said, if someone thinks that is a price worth paying for losing capability and 1.6 lbs., I have no argument with them. I'm not willing to pay more to get less.
See, I heard the opposite. I heard that since PC manufacturers are all so used to using comodity parts, that their supply chain isn't able to build many motherboard with all of the necessary chipsets soldered on - which is what you need to do to get such a thin profile PC.
So they can only make, at maximum capacity, < 200,000 a month. And that's at maximum capacity. And since they don't know how well they will sell, I wouldn't want to use 100% of my production capacity to make <200,000 units when I could make an initial run of 1/10th that and still have 27 days for everything else.
Just some basic math
So they can only make, at maximum capacity, < 200,000 a month. And that's at maximum capacity. And since they don't know how well they will sell, I wouldn't want to use 100% of my production capacity to make <200,000 units when I could make an initial run of 1/10th that and still have 27 days for everything else.
Just some basic math
True. Depends on whether the weight and resolution aspects mean more to you or not. Something much easier to add to your arsenal when going from a 2009 13" MBP to a 2010 13" MBA. In that case, you get the performance gain due to the SSD drive and the improved graphics card, but more than anything the higher resolution. If apple saw fit to up the 13" MBP resolution, it'll drop the MBA advantage to simply the SSD and the weight (a bit of thinness), lowering a factor of why you pay more.
The 11" has the true advantage of size all around, but loses the card slot and the 13" air specific resolution advantage.
But with all electronics in life, you pay more for getting slightly lesser technology in small form. It's no different for the air than it is for just about any computer tech.
The 11" has the true advantage of size all around, but loses the card slot and the 13" air specific resolution advantage.
But with all electronics in life, you pay more for getting slightly lesser technology in small form. It's no different for the air than it is for just about any computer tech.
What I don't get is that manufacturers are asking Intel to drop their price on the chips so they can compete with the MacBook Air. However, if Intel dropped their price, then wouldn't Apple's price go down as well? Wouldn't the MacBook Air just become cheaper?
I look at the playing field today and see a whole lot of imitation going on. All are innovating to some degree, but none as much as Apple seems to be. The only Apple competitor I see coming out with an original spear-heading game-changing product seems to be Microsoft and their whole Windows 8 initiative. It is certainly nothing like Apple is doing, but the only question that remains is if its the "right thing". Microsoft is claiming "no compromise" on Windows 8 (tablet metro UI and Windows desktop UI rolled into one). It is a very very ambitious project, but if they pull it off it could be game changing -- and the hardware that will run Windows 8 could have a serious chance in the market.
I think the reason I like Apple product events is because I love to see what innovations they have come up with (not that everything they do is innovative -- some imitation is always in order). But I don't get excited for announcements of "clone products". Besides Apple, Microsoft is the only other company that is really intriguing me right now. I previously included Palm/HP in that list, but I am a bit skeptical if HP is really going to keep innovating down the WebOS path -- even so, WebOS is not as game-changing as Windows 8 could be -- just very very slick.
I look at the playing field today and see a whole lot of imitation going on. All are innovating to some degree, but none as much as Apple seems to be. The only Apple competitor I see coming out with an original spear-heading game-changing product seems to be Microsoft and their whole Windows 8 initiative. It is certainly nothing like Apple is doing, but the only question that remains is if its the "right thing". Microsoft is claiming "no compromise" on Windows 8 (tablet metro UI and Windows desktop UI rolled into one). It is a very very ambitious project, but if they pull it off it could be game changing -- and the hardware that will run Windows 8 could have a serious chance in the market.
I think the reason I like Apple product events is because I love to see what innovations they have come up with (not that everything they do is innovative -- some imitation is always in order). But I don't get excited for announcements of "clone products". Besides Apple, Microsoft is the only other company that is really intriguing me right now. I previously included Palm/HP in that list, but I am a bit skeptical if HP is really going to keep innovating down the WebOS path -- even so, WebOS is not as game-changing as Windows 8 could be -- just very very slick.
I like that the MacBook Air is growing in popularity. I remember back in the day when the MBA was kind of an afterthought.
some people still want blue ray? For an air?
Apple has that market cornered just like the iPad. They released first, perfected the device, and then (having older parts to re-use) have a killer starting price. For an apple computer, compared to the competition it is more evenly priced.
Apple has really been dominating tablet, ultrabooks, and mobile phone industry (phone wise not OS wise). Innovation at it's finest!
Apple has that market cornered just like the iPad. They released first, perfected the device, and then (having older parts to re-use) have a killer starting price. For an apple computer, compared to the competition it is more evenly priced.
Apple has really been dominating tablet, ultrabooks, and mobile phone industry (phone wise not OS wise). Innovation at it's finest!
The news is that others have trouble producing ultra-thin laptops that can compete with the air in terms of price.
What $500 market?
No, no. You know the rules. Once Apple make an ultraportable if follows that they invented ultraportables. If any ultraportables already exist, they copied Apple, and even if they didn't, Apple reinvented the ultraportable as we know it, so there.
True on the 11".
Re resolution, while the 13" Air has higher resolution, its color accuracy and gamut is significantly worse than on the 13" Pro. I prefer the better panel in the Pro, but again, I'd have no quibble with someone who preferred the higher resolution.
And exactly correct on your last quoted statement!
AKA, IT professionals.
There were subnotebooks a decade before that, including from Apple. Apple Duo, Sony Vaio, HP, Toshiba, others I'm sure. Oh, IBM of course. They were generally MORE expensive than other offerings from the same mfgr.
There were even what I would call predecessors to netbooks, like the Toshiba Libretto that wasn't much bigger than a Newton when closed, running a processor about 2 years old at the time to save on cost and power. Woefully underpowered, but ridiculously portable, just like today's netbooks.
True, but not the case here though. All they do is play catch up. Air is Air, it's an established product, it's an Apple product, it can run Windows too. Apple is selling gazillion of these babies.
long way to go
That image is telling. It's pretty evident the sleekest design is without question, the MacBook Air. The Asus looks to be the only one to come anywhere close, but it appears to me like it's an 11" model.
I'll reserve judgement until I have a chance to see these devices in person, but initial images and specifications seem to indicate they have a way to go before any of them can truly compete with the Air.
That image is telling. It's pretty evident the sleekest design is without question, the MacBook Air. The Asus looks to be the only one to come anywhere close, but it appears to me like it's an 11" model.
I'll reserve judgement until I have a chance to see these devices in person, but initial images and specifications seem to indicate they have a way to go before any of them can truly compete with the Air.
I always found it strange that PC makers couldn't get their stuff together. I mean, forget copying how the Air looks. How hard can it be to design a computer that isn't a POS (not plastic, not a two tone chassis that breaks, flexy keyboard, nice innards and a CLEAN windows install with all the appropriate drivers.) Then release all the drivers for that models through your own website/software update app.
Sounds like a plan rip off of Apple, but seriously, its common sense (and why I switched to Apple in the first place).
Its almost like PC makers have been designing laptops by picking components out of a book, making an ugly as sin chassis from the 90s, then just installing a bloatware laden OS on it and leaving consumers (like Mom) to fend for themselves.
Do they think consumers want a weird looking laptop that looks like a business machine, a painted toy, or leds? A laptop with desktop and start menu already filled with many confusing and often useless applications? Does anyone use Bonzi Buddy?
Or what happens to great ideas? Why was the courier killed? Why won't Windows and OEMs just start clean, trash legacy support and streamline their OS by not shipping with a gajillion drivers? Maybe it could just download the ones it needs while installing. Or they could try making their utilities much less confusing. OEMs and Windows need the balls to make a fresh start. Apple makes great products, but there is room for great windows products too.
Sounds like a plan rip off of Apple, but seriously, its common sense (and why I switched to Apple in the first place).
Its almost like PC makers have been designing laptops by picking components out of a book, making an ugly as sin chassis from the 90s, then just installing a bloatware laden OS on it and leaving consumers (like Mom) to fend for themselves.
Do they think consumers want a weird looking laptop that looks like a business machine, a painted toy, or leds? A laptop with desktop and start menu already filled with many confusing and often useless applications? Does anyone use Bonzi Buddy?
Or what happens to great ideas? Why was the courier killed? Why won't Windows and OEMs just start clean, trash legacy support and streamline their OS by not shipping with a gajillion drivers? Maybe it could just download the ones it needs while installing. Or they could try making their utilities much less confusing. OEMs and Windows need the balls to make a fresh start. Apple makes great products, but there is room for great windows products too.
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