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Has anyone successfully a) activated an unlimited + Enterprise + 5GB tether plan and b) transferred it to a 4S? I would guess it would go something as follows: Activate unlimited data on 2G iPhone. Put SIM into 3G Blackberry Bold - Get converted to $30/unlimited automatically. Add phone to my existing FAN account and add Enterprise Tethering. Cut SIM/transfer account to Micro-SIM and put into iPhone 4S. Has anyone tried this? Does it work?

I have a 4S with an unlimited plan (no tethering), but also have an iPhone 2G, and a BlackBerry Bold that is compatible with enterprise tethering. My main contract is running out in a few months, so adding a second account to get tethering (even capped) while retaining unlimited phone data would be a plus.

No, you cant have unlimited data and official tethering on the same line.
Either unlimited and no tethering or 4GB plan with tethering.
But on a seperate line offcourse you could.
Have unlimited on one and a 4GB plan with tethering on the other.
 
No, you cant have unlimited data and official tethering on the same line.
Either unlimited and no tethering or 4GB plan with tethering.
But on a seperate line offcourse you could.
Have unlimited on one and a 4GB plan with tethering on the other.

Thanks. Now that the T-Mobile merger looks like it isn't happening, I'll probably just keep my T-Mobile line for tethering rather than get a 2nd AT&T line. I have a Nexus One and a grandfathered "Even More Plus" plan. So far T-Mo's been quiet about my use of mobile hotspot (I never get anywhere near 2GB, let alone 5GB), but if it looks like T-Mobile will get the iPhone 5 next year I might just add the "official" tethering option for another $15/month shortly before.

It will be interesting to see if T-Mobile pushes Apple to add a pentaband UMTS chip to the iPhone 5, since it looks like they'll be independent for at least another year or two while DT figures out what to do with them.
 
Thanks. Now that the T-Mobile merger looks like it isn't happening, I'll probably just keep my T-Mobile line for tethering rather than get a 2nd AT&T line. I have a Nexus One and a grandfathered "Even More Plus" plan. So far T-Mo's been quiet about my use of mobile hotspot (I never get anywhere near 2GB, let alone 5GB), but if it looks like T-Mobile will get the iPhone 5 next year I might just add the "official" tethering option for another $15/month shortly before.

It will be interesting to see if T-Mobile pushes Apple to add a pentaband UMTS chip to the iPhone 5, since it looks like they'll be independent for at least another year or two while DT figures out what to do with them.

In order for tmobile to "push" apple to add their bands they will have to give them a big check with lots of zeros at the end:D
 
So I just tried it with a friend's phone and a fresh SIM.

Had iTunes restore the phone first. Plugged into iTunes with the blank SIM and it immediately unlocked - no activation screen - and prompts me to set up the phone for syncing music with my iTunes account.

Never prompted to set up the line with AT&T in the usual manner. The phone now says "Waiting for Activation - This may take a while." How can it activate a blank SIM without knowing any account or phone number information?

Has anyone seen this before?
 
So I just tried it with a friend's phone and a fresh SIM.

Had iTunes restore the phone first. Plugged into iTunes with the blank SIM and it immediately unlocked - no activation screen - and prompts me to set up the phone for syncing music with my iTunes account.

Never prompted to set up the line with AT&T in the usual manner. The phone now says "Waiting for Activation - This may take a while." How can it activate a blank SIM without knowing any account or phone number information?

Has anyone seen this before?

Are you using a 2G phone? If you do, then it is not normal.

If you are doing this with 3G, 3GS & Iphone 4, then it is normal. With the exception that 3GS, Iphone 4 firmware is below OS5. As long as you have AT&T sim in the phone, hook it up with Itunes and you will by pass the activation screen. AT&T sim does not need to be active. Old, inactivate sim will work as well.
 
I did a full restore via iTunes and followed the instructions posted online to do the procedure.

My friend used this phone last week to get unlimited data on his account and it activated in the normal way - any chance it's behaving erratically because it was unlocked prior to the my friend's activation?

Hoping it's user error, but this aligns (unfortunately) with lordofthereef's post regarding issues activating unlimited data.
 
I did a full restore via iTunes and followed the instructions posted online to do the procedure.

My friend used this phone last week to get unlimited data on his account and it activated in the normal way - any chance it's behaving erratically because it was unlocked prior to the my friend's activation?

Hoping it's user error, but this aligns (unfortunately) with lordofthereef's post regarding issues activating unlimited data.

Yep, it is a pain and if AT&T's activation servers have issues it will be nothing but a headache.
 
What's strange is that iTunes immediately unlocked the phone. No dialogue for phone number, social, rate plan...

I put a live AT&T sim (provisioned for a dumb phone) into it and immediately received a message stating "Your iPhone is activated." It showed strong signal and the Edge "E" and was fully functional.

From what I've read that shouldn't be possible after a full restore.
 
I don't recommend anyone try to activate until I (or someone else who does many of these) updates here. Reason becing, this very well could be the end... no sense in burning your sims. (Before this gets misinterpreted, this is a suggestion to save you time and money, if you don't want to listen, by all means, ignore this entire post).

As of this writing, ATT reps are even clueless. One of the people I ran the activation for has called upwards of a dozen times over the past 36 hours or so and was told that they expect the system to be back up tomorrow. I was told something similar. Please take that with a grain of salt. A lot of times the phone reps are among that last persons to know anything. It could just purely be conjecture spreading rampantly, or it could be 100% fact.

I promise t update here when I know anything more definite. I have also stopped running activations for the time being as they have been getting nowhere since 12/13/11.

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What's strange is that iTunes immediately unlocked the phone. No dialogue for phone number, social, rate plan...

I put a live AT&T sim (provisioned for a dumb phone) into it and immediately received a message stating "Your iPhone is activated." It showed strong signal and the Edge "E" and was fully functional.

From what I've read that shouldn't be possible after a full restore.

It is possible. In fact, I sell used sims (deactivated) for this very reason (people want to use an old phone as an iPodtouch). All it needs is a proper att sim that has been activated at some point and it will push the activation of the hone through. This is how it has been since day one and continues to be. I could take the sim card from my iPhone 4, pop it in the 2G (with an adapter, of course), run it through iTunes, and the phone will activate. Same is try regardless of what ATT phone you have. (please note that sometime the activation does fail since iTunes times out and is buggy as hell, but it is INTENDED to allow the activation).

I think you may be getting confused with terminology here a bit (if not, disregard what I am about to say). When I say "activate and iPhone 2G" I am referring to getting it out of the "emergency call only, please connect to itunes". That is it. Nothing more and nothing less is meant to be implied. WHen we say activate a sim card, or unlimited data plan, we are referring to actually getting that sim registered with ATT, adding an unlimited data plan to the line, and allowing that sim to be used to make phone calls, send texts, and use data.

I hope that clears things up.
 
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Nothing on the iphone loophole just yet. Will let everyone know if or when it is still available again. I might actually be over. But we dont really know at this point. I should defiantly know within the next 2 days. Hopefully no later than Monday.
 
No Applejuiced i dont believe that they would stop activating them all together. Dont see that happening at all. If all else fails they will activate them, but make you select from the current data plans.

But yes hopefully it is just a temp. thing.
We shall see hopefully soon.



To be continued....:confused:
 
Nothing on the iphone loophole just yet. Will let everyone know if or when it is still available again. I might actually be over. But we dont really know at this point. I should defiantly know within the next 2 days. Hopefully no later than Monday.

I am probably speaking for both of us here (please let me know if not) when I say that texting "I heard they got rid of the data loophole", or something to that effect, is not going to help anyone (I have sent/received 1000+ text regarding this in the past 2 days alone...), because we just don't know for sure. I personally don't work for ATT, but even my friend who does, is nowhere near high enough on the totem pole to be given any special information.
 
Joined to know what happened to this loophole. It's funny how RIGHT when I buy a 2G to try this loophole, this procedure does not work. I hope this is temporary!
 
I am probably speaking for both of us here (please let me know if not) when I say that texting "I heard they got rid of the data loophole", or something to that effect, is not going to help anyone (I have sent/received 1000+ text regarding this in the past 2 days alone...), because we just don't know for sure. I personally don't work for ATT, but even my friend who does, is nowhere near high enough on the totem pole to be given any special information.



yeah lordofthereef youre right.
i as well have been getting non stop constant texts and we just dont know yet rather or not that it will still be open. We just have to wait it out and see. But we will defiantly tell you all when and if it is back working again.
 
Ok, I got a working iPhone 2g, I did a full restore, inserted my new sim card and connected to itunes, but no activation screen comes up, I just get a message on my phone saying waiting for activiation

This is the screen I get. I get no activation prompt from iTunes. I just get to name my iphone and asked if I want to sync calendars, contacts, music, etc....

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What's the problem? The sim card is new....

When I go to [settings] [general] [about] [network], it says "SIM not provisioned." not sure if that means anything.
 
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Exactly what happened to me. Is this how the non-2g iPhones typically respond? It seems like something must have changed on the back end with the iTunes activation servers to permit this new behavior.

Lordofthereef - Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't aware a live AT&T sim would unlock the phone and push the activation through.
 
Ok, I got a working iPhone 2g, I did a full restore, inserted my new sim card and connected to itunes, but no activation screen comes up, I just get a message on my phone saying waiting for activiation

This is the screen I get. I get no activation prompt from iTunes. I just get to name my iphone and asked if I want to sync calendars, contacts, music, etc....

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What's the problem? The sim card is new....

When I go to [settings] [general] [about] [network], it says "SIM not provisioned." not sure if that means anything.

Read the posts above. There's a possibility that the loophole is being closed. Activations haven't been going through for the past several days.
 
Exactly what happened to me. Is this how the non-2g iPhones typically respond?

Typically, the 3G and up respond this way only if you put an activated sim in them. A brand new sim should not be pushing you to the screen you are seeing (unless something has been changed, which it may have. Keep reading).

That said, I had a person tell me last night that he paid $32 for the Apple care to explain what was going on. That guy said that ATT is unlocking iPhone 2Gs, took his serial, and unlocked the phone for him. Perhaps Apple is simply going to start unlocking all iPhone 2G from now on.
 
Well my friends, I am almost certain the loophole has been closed. I tested all ten of my phones with blank sims and ALL of them were activated immediately after plugging into iTunes. THis leads me to believe that this is no longer an isolated incident.

Talking to ATT reps, however, has still gotten me nowhere. They all tell me "give it another 24 hours". At this point, I think it's just a go to phrase synonymous with "we don't know any more than you do". I will still do everything I can to try and find out definitively what's up, but things certainly don't look good.
 
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